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SHRED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-02-05 10:38 AM
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Celebrating the vote?
It is my understanding that the majority of Iraqi's voted for food and with the hope that the USA withdrawls it's troops soon.

WTF is the msmedia so giddy about then? Oh that's right...must not make king shrub look bad.

Prediction: The shit will hit the fan when the Iraqi's realize their vote did nothing to hasten our withdrawl.


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"Many Iraqis had expressed fears before the election that their monthly food rations would be cut if they did not vote. They said they had to sign voter registration forms in order to pick up their food supplies. Just days before the election, 52 year-old Amin Hajar, who owns an auto garage in central Baghdad, had said, 'I'll vote because I can't afford to have my food ration cut. If that happened, me and my family would starve to death.'"

http://www.truthout.org/docs_2005/013105W.shtml

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LibertyorDeath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-02-05 10:45 AM
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1. Yes "The shit will hit the fan when the Iraqi's realize their vote did
nothing"

It is easy to demonstrate that for Bush planners, the threat of terror is a low priority. The invasion of Iraq is only one of many illustrations. Even their own intelligence agencies agreed with the consensus among other agencies, and independent specialists, that the invasion was likely to increase the threat of terror, as it did; probably nuclear proliferation as well, as also predicted. Such threats are simply not high priorities as compared with the opportunity to establish the first secure military bases in a dependent client state at the heart of the world’s major energy reserves, a region understood since World War II to be the “most strategically important area of the world,” “a stupendous source of strategic power, and one of the greatest material prizes in world history.” Apart from what one historian of the industry calls “profits beyond the dreams of avarice,” which must flow in the right direction, control over two-thirds of the world’s estimated hydrocarbon reserves—uniquely cheap and easy to exploit—provides what Zbigniew Brzezinski recently called “critical leverage” over European and Asian rivals, what George Kennan many years earlier had called “veto power” over them. These have been crucial policy concerns throughout the post-World War II period, even more so in today’s evolving tripolar world, with its threat that Europe and Asia might move towards greater independence, and worse, might be united: China and the EU became each other’s major trading partners in 2004, joined by the world’s second largest economy (Japan), and those tendencies are likely to increase. A firm hand on the spigot reduces these dangers.

more http://zmagsite.zmag.org/Jan2005/chomskypr0105.html
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Igel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-02-05 11:53 AM
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2. There's no denying that they voted their fears. Even hopes.
Whether their fears were rooted in reality, well, that's a different question.

Maybe reporters have interviewed more Iraqis than they're saying, but most reports on the ground either have a clear ideological ax to grind, or report one of two things: Some people (but not those in authority) claimed the food rations would be withheld or cut, or some people were afraid their food rations would be withheld or cut.

Since they used the food ration lists as the basis for voter registration and as the poll book, I can see how people could think this. I haven't seen any report of any administrator saying this.

Meanwhile we Americans would surely never vote our fears or hopes.
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