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cyberpj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-02-05 11:09 AM
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Is Bush SS attention to distract us from this Health Care activity?
Or is he just going to continue to screw middle and lower classes with everything he possibly can while they also continue to take down our economy?

-PJ

3 articles w/links follow:

(1) Healthcare Overhaul Is Quietly Underway
By Ricardo Alonso-Zaldivar - The Los Angeles Times
(need subscription to LAT so I posted truthout info)

http://www.truthout.org/docs_2005/013105L.shtml

(2) AND They say Bush Not Revealing Social Security Details
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory?id=462171

(3) But Raw Story posted a leaked document here:
(You can download the PDF but it will make you even angrier than you are already.)

http://rawstory.rawprint.com/105/social_security_1.php
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grumpy old fart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-02-05 11:21 AM
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1. Is it just me, or are the Bushistas just uber thieves?
Edited on Wed Feb-02-05 11:23 AM by grumpy old fart
Everything they do seems designed to line the pockets of the rich and powerful with public money, and to institutionally protect the ill gotten loot. The war is just a grab for oil and Huge contracts for Halliburton, et al, Social Security "reform" is just a way to generate huge fees and capital for wall street, gutting Medicare and advocating "tort reform" just enriching and protecting the incredibly corrupt health care companies...I mean every bit of what Bush does is just plain robbing from the poor to pay the rich....
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Pepperbelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-02-05 11:23 AM
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2. I think it's a smash-and-grab for Wall Street and nothing more. nt
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grumpy old fart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-02-05 11:25 AM
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3. That's exactly what it is....
They look around for where the most public money can be stolen, and then devise a plan to take it. The Great Treasury Robbery.....
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Clark2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-02-05 11:26 AM
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4. I have a question.
What if Americans just simply don't "opt out" of this stupid Social Security Reform plan.
What if they just keep their money going into the SSA? Would employers still be required to meet the difference or would we loose that half of it?
I, for one, don't make a lot of money, so investing it in anything as risky as the stock market is absolutely stupid for me. Besides, I may be smart at a lot of things, but playing the stock market isn't one of them.
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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-02-05 11:34 AM
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5. Everything Bush does or says is a distraction from what is really
...going on!
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cyberpj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-02-05 05:37 PM
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6. kick for the evening crowd.... check out health plan changes coming:
The theory is they're just making these changes while we all argue about Social Security.......


WASHINGTON - Emboldened by their success at the polls, the Bush administration and Republican leaders in Congress believe they have a new opportunity to move the nation away from the system of employer-provided health insurance that has covered most working Americans for the last half-century.

In its place, they want to erect a system in which workers instead of looking to employers for health insurance would take personal responsibility for protecting themselves and their families: They would buy high-deductible "catastrophic" insurance policies to cover major medical needs, then pay routine costs with money set aside in tax-sheltered health savings accounts.

(snip)

"My view is that this is absolutely the next big thing," said former House Speaker Newt Gingrich, whose consulting firm focuses on healthcare. "You are going to see a continued move to trying to get people involved in the process by owning their own health accounts."

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