I think the downfall of Bush will be brought about by his own people

[mtnsnake]

and will most likely begin within days, when his popularity begins to sink to an alltime low among his OWN people.

Yeah the chimp's had his day in the sun, with these "elections" and the temporary boost he'll get from them and the State of the Union address. Let him pat himself on the back. He was only buying time with these "elections" in Iraq to get him through his speech tonight.

There were no WMD's, and he got caught, so he made it all about freedom. Okay, he got his way....he had his little fun with the "elections". He can use it as a big plus of his State of the Union address. But now he's at a crossroads and all directions point no where. If he stays in Iraq, then it's like slapping the Iraqis in the face that they're not capable on their own destiny without the chimp looking over their shoulder, drooling at their oil fields.

It's a slap to all his own people, too, all the fools who will soon realize there's no more excuses to avoid getting our OWN country in tiptop shape, something which has been impossible for the Chimp to do, and will continue to haunt him. Our economy is in turmoil and the Iraq War excuse will soon wear thin even with his own flock of sheep, in light of these "successful" elections. Even Bush's own supporters are starting to wonder what the hell we're doing in Iraq worrying more about freedom and democracy in a country that hates our guts, while freedom and democracy are deteriorating here in the good ole USA "where it belongs." I'm beginning to see and hear more and more republican displeasure of their man with my own eyes and ears every day.

Here's the thing. As soon as there's no more excuses to kill Iraqis, Bush's republican sheep will lose interest there and turn on him because of the pitiful shape their own destinies are in right here at home. Reality will be sinking in within a few days methinks, and Bushco will end up being scorned by their own people.

Funny, but I honestly think that the downfall of Bush will begin within minutes of the end of his speech tonight, even though the ratings will give him a very temporary boost after his speech like they always do. It'll be fun watching his own flock turn on him in the next few weeks. I'm gonna be right there telling them all, I told ya so.

[maxsolomon]

1. dream on

bush will be nearly deified after 2008. airports, highways, charter schools all named after him. any positive development in the ME will be attributed to his "bold vision".

it may not be "tradional" fascism we're headed towards, but its within spitting distance. think "starship troopers".

[rockymountaindem]

2. I think the downfall of Bush will never happen

and after he is out of office, his legacy will rival that of Reagan among conservatives for many years to come.

[Toucano]

6. And in 30 years

Today's little Aahnolds will lionize him just like Nixon.

[mtnsnake]

12. I disagree, especially about the Reagan thing

The one constant I've heard among repukes lately, when I've had the displeasure of reading or hearing what they say among themselves, is that they all admit that little Georgie boy will never amount to being much more than a hair on their hero, Reagan's, ass.

All Bush was and is to them was a better choice than Kerry.

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[bryant69]

4. I think you are right

Although I also think the battle over Social Security, if we play are cards right, could turn the table on him. Bush has always believed in spending political capital as soon as he gets it (on the theory that that will make more political capital for him). But if he doesn't get dividends than he'll eventually run out.

Bryant
Check it out --> http://politicalcomment.blogspot.com

[MISSDem]

20. Michael Ramirez (spelling?) the political cartoonist for

The L.A. Times had one showing Bush being tripped up by Republicans over Social Security. And Ramirez in a conservative.

[Oreo]

5. That would be great but....

you have to think they'll come up with something else to rally around.

Just think what an invasion of Syria or Iran would do to reinvigorate Bush's base

[mtnsnake]

15. Yes, that is a worry, but like I said,

I'm starting to hear more and more repukes themselves who are wondering when Bush is going to help them here at home, instead of "helping them damn ole moooslims get freedom" over there on the other side of the planet. Most repukes could give a rat's ass if people of a different religion than them enjoy the same freedom and democracy as we "christians" do.

[clintonlover]

7. i hope u r right...eom

[blm]

8. As soon as things look bleak for Bush, he'll pull out his antigay message

again, and the manipulated will kiss the hem of his pants ..... once again.

And...once again...the media will accept the manipulation, not unlike 1930's Germany.

[Sequoia]

9. Think of history repeating itself...remember Robespierre!

Ah yes, in the end he got to celebrate Razor Day facing the Blade. His own people had had enough of the Terror, torture and killing too.

[ginnyinWI]

10. here's the thing: they refuse to face reality

Die-hard Bush supporters will not even listen to arguments against him. They are bonded to him emotionally, so that an attack on Bush is an attack on them personally. He's their "daddy figure", the one who is going to "save them from Terra". You can't argue logically with that kind of mind-set. They are totally drunk on the KoolAid.

Now I'm talking about the rank and file. Repub senators may be more aware of reality, but they are driven by the power structure in place on the Hill and in the WH. They are going to be loathe to go against it and commit political suicide. Would that some of them would switch parties and join the reality-based community! But most of them will just get up and lie, lie, lie about Bush's proposals and prop them up, even when they know better.

[mtnsnake]

17. It could be more of a grass roots thing that un-does him

You can't argue logically with that kind of mind-set.

Nobody's expects us too, anymore. I admit that's a waste of time arguing with blockheads. That's why I think it'll be his own dissatisfied flock who's going to end up taking care of business.

They had their fun beating us up in the campaign and they had their fun killing people in Iraq. There's nothing left for them to do now but dealing with their own pitiful existence, lack of good jobs and health care, and no one left but Bush for them to take it out on. These people despised Kerry more then they liked Bush. Wait and see if they don't turn on him real soon :)

[PDittie]

11. It's a full court press

I'm not as confident as you that the souffle' is about to fall.

Just in the last two weeks: The inauguration, the Iraqi elections and the incessant happy dancing about that, the in-process confirmations of Rice, Gonzales, Chertoff...

Tonight begins the Social Security blitzkrieg.

They will not take their foot off the gas, so we have got to keep fighting back.

It's too bad the party hasn't come together behind Dean, or else he could be giving the SOTU response.

Unless there is a catastrophe in Iraq (or elsewhere), he's got another good month to coast on the momentum he's already generated.

But they won't be coasting.

[Coastie for Truth]

13. I think he will alway be lionized by a segment

of the GOP

(1) Evangelicals who concentrate on "abortion" and "gays" and disregard the other 99.995% of Scripture (about the poor, the stranger in your midst, peace, etc).

(2) The "Return to the Gilded Age of 1890's" voices in the business community.

(3) The PNAC Neo-Cons.

BUT

(1) The Piratization of Social Security (to convert it to "Social INSecurity"),

(2) Health Costs - if we Dems can keep the linkage between Personal Bankruptcies and Catastrophic Illness before the public.

Can cut into the electoral gains -- and give us a fighting chance to recapture the Presidency in 2008.

And, we have to bring the spirit of Baker v. Carr back into electoral districting. This computer gamesmanship a la Tom DeLay (and on our side - California) will ultimately hurt both parties.

[AlCzervik]

14. Bush and Nixon share the same SOTU address date

I know it's not much but hey one can only hope.

[AverageJoe]

16. It all depends

If the Democrats would stand united and work with the few Republicans who understand how dangerous Bush is to democracy and world peace, then things might start to unravel for the little dictator.

The key, though, is for Democrats to be united, clear and forceful, but not obnoxious. They need to present a coherent, understandable message about malfeasance and lies, an unjust war, and an economy about to go belly up.

If they were to do this, get a few Republicans on board, and never get off message, then perhaps they could gain some momentum and even get the media to report on their message.

But this is probably just a dream. And the biggest stumbling block is actually getting the Democrats to unite and fight.

[robbedvoter]

18. Dream on. Popularity is no longer required in the Age of the Empire

Besides, it will be manufactured for him, and you will believe it too.

[mtnsnake]

19. Sorry, but I guess I've got more hope than that

This hope is based upon the displeasure I've been hearing more and more coming from his own people.

It'll be ironically satisfying that his own people will end up doing what we couldn't do ourselves when we were sitting in the driver's seat.

We'll be in the White House in 2008 regardless.