OFFICAL DU SOTU THREAD

[Kevin Spidel]

Didn't see it elsewhere, so lets vent here!

Also Rapid Response Fact checking here:
http://www.thereisnocrisis.com/rapidresponse

Also Retoric checking here:
http://blog.pdamerica.org

[Adelante]

1. Who is scheduled to deliver

the Dem response, do you know?

[Sparkly]

3. Reid & Pelosi, I think

Reid on Social Security, Pelosi on foreign policy... I think that's what I heard.

[Adelante]

5. Thanks, Sparkly

I'm lost without a TV.

[althecat]

2. george's opportunity to tell us who is getting invaded next

It's 2.38pm Thursday here... ready and waiting for more lies.

[pbartch]

28. CHIMP --- STATE OF THE ZOO SPEECH

Send this Chimp to the MOON!!!!

[althecat]

210. Seems it is Syria and Iran

[Kevin Spidel]

4. Offical Dem Response Already out (see here)

NEWS FROM THE DEMOCRATIC LEADERS
Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid
Wednesday, February 2, 2005

Embargoed until delivery-Approximately 10 p.m. EST.



Democratic Response to State of the Union Address

Washington, D.C. - This evening, House Democratic Leader Nancy Pelosi and Senate Democratic Leader Harry Reid will deliver the Democratic response to the State of the Union Address on the need to confront the urgent challenges facing our nation at home and abroad. Below are their remarks as prepared for delivery:

Senate Democratic Leader Harry Reid:

"Good evening. I'm Harry Reid from Nevada, the new Democratic Leader in the United States Senate. Now that you've heard from the President, I appreciate your spending a few minutes with us as we give our views on how we can live up to the American promise.

"I was born and raised in the high desert of Nevada in a tiny town called Searchlight. My dad was a hard rock miner. My mom took in wash. I grew up around people of strong values - even if they rarely talked about them.

"They loved their country, worshiped God, never shunned hard work, and never asked for special favors. My life has been very different from what I imagined growing up, but no matter how far I've traveled, Searchlight is still the place I go back to and still the place I call home.

"A few weeks ago, I joined some friends of mine for a bite to eat at The Nugget - Searchlight's only restaurant. We were sitting down in a booth, when a young boy, about ten years old, named Devon walked up to us.

"Carrying a skateboard under his arm, he said, 'Senator Reid, when I grow up I want to be just like you.'

"Well, the truth is Devon could probably do a lot better. But the point still holds and it is this: no one ever had to tell young Devon to dream big dreams, no one ever had to teach him that America is a place of possibility.

"He knows those things because they are born deep in all Americans.

"In the coming year, I believe we can make sure America lives up to its legacy as a land of opportunity if the President is willing to join hands and build from the center.

"It's important that we succeed. It's time that America's government lived by the same values as America's families. It's time we invested in America's future and made sure our people have the skills to compete and thrive in a 21st century economy. That's what Democrats believe. That's where we stand. That's what we'll fight for.

"Too many of the President's economic policies have left Americans and American companies struggling. And after we worked so hard to eliminate the deficit, his policies have added trillions to the debt - in effect, a 'birth tax' of $36,000 on every child that is born.

"We Democrats have a different vision: Spurring research and development in new technologies to help create the jobs of the future. Rolling up our sleeves and fighting for today's jobs by ending the special tax breaks that encourage big corporations to ship jobs overseas. A trade policy that enforces the rules of the road so that we play to win in the global marketplace instead of sitting by and getting played for fools.

"After World War II, through the Marshall Plan, we rebuilt Europe and they went from poverty to an economic powerhouse. Today, we need to invest in our nation's future with a Marshall Plan for America - to build the infrastructure our economy needs to go - and grow. President Eisenhower did that in the 1950s with the interstate highways. National investment created the Internet in the 1970s. We need to build the next economy - and we need to start now.

"This 21st century economy holds great promise for our people. But unless we give all Americans the skills they need to succeed, countries like India and China will take good-paying jobs that should be ours. From early childhood education to better elementary and high schools to making college more affordable to training workers so they can get better jobs, Democrats believe every American should have a world-class education and the skills they need in a world-wide economy.

"Health care costs have shot up double-digits year after year of the Bush Administration and that's costing us jobs, costing us our competitiveness, and costing families their peace of mind. We need to make health care and prescription drugs affordable for all so that our families and our small businesses will no longer have to shoulder this dead weight.

"Good, new jobs. World-class education. Affordable health care. These things matter. Unfortunately, much of what the President offered weren't real answers. You know, today is Groundhog Day. And what we saw and heard tonight was a little like that movie, Groundhog Day. The same-old ideology that we've heard before - over and over again. We can do better.

"I want you to know that when we believe the President is on the right track, we won't let partisan interests get in the way of what's good for the country. We will be first in line to work with him. But when he gets off track, we will be there to hold him accountable.

"And that's why we so strongly disagree with the President's plan to privatize Social Security. Let me share with you why I believe the President's plan is so dangerous. There's a lot we can do to improve American's retirement security, but it's wrong to replace the guaranteed benefit that Americans have earned with a guaranteed benefit cut of forty percent or more. Make no mistake, that's exactly what President Bush is proposing.

"The Bush plan would take our already record high $4.3 trillion national debt and put us another $2 trillion in the red. That's an immoral burden to place on the backs of the next generation.

"But maybe most of all, the Bush plan isn't really Social Security reform.

"It's more like Social Security roulette. Democrats are all for giving Americans more of a say and more choices when it comes to their retirement savings. But that doesn't mean taking Social Security's guarantee and gambling with it. And that's coming from a Senator who represents Las Vegas.

"Sometimes important questions like Social Security or the economy or education get reduced to dollars and cents or competing policies and political parties. But really, these are questions that are about old-fashioned moral values that don't get talked about much in Washington, but matter so much to our country. Are we willing to do right by our parents and care for our children? Do we believe that big corporations with powerful lobbyists should get special favors and that the wealthiest should get special tax breaks? Or do we believe we are all God's children and that each of us should get a fair shot and each of us deserves a say in our future? Will we be able to tell young people like Devon back in Searchlight that America is still the land of the open road and that you can travel that open road to the place of your choice?

"Even after the President's speech, the American people are still asking these questions. You can be sure that Democrats will continue to offer real answers in the months ahead.

"Now, I'd like to turn things over to my colleague, the great leader of House Democrats, Nancy Pelosi."


House Democratic Leader Nancy Pelosi:



"Thank you, Senator Reid."



"Throughout our nation's history, hope and optimism have defined the American spirit. With pride and determination, every generation has passed on a stronger America than the one it inherited. Our greatest responsibility is to leave our children a world that is safer and more secure.



"As House Democratic Leader, I want to speak with you this evening about an issue of grave concern - the national security of our country.



"Any discussion of our national security must begin with recognition and respect for our men and women in uniform. Whether they are fighting in Iraq and Afghanistan, or delivering humanitarian aid to the victims of the tsunami in Asia, our troops have the gratitude of every American for their courage, their patriotism, and the sacrifice they are willing to make for our country.



"I have seen that sacrifice up close. I've met with our troops in Iraq and Afghanistan. And I've visited our wounded in military hospitals here and overseas. Our troops not only defend us, they inspire us. They remind us of our responsibility to build a future worthy of their sacrifice.



"Because of the courage of our servicemen and women and the determination of the Iraqi people, Iraq's election on Sunday was a significant step toward Iraqis taking their future into their own hands. Now we must consider our future in Iraq.



"We all know that the United States cannot stay in Iraq indefinitely and continue to be viewed as an occupying force. Neither should we slip out the back door, falsely declaring victory but leaving chaos.



"Despite the best efforts of our troops and their Iraqi counterparts, Iraq still faces a violent and persistent insurgency, and the Chairman of the National Intelligence Council said in January that Iraq is now a magnet for international terrorists.



"We have never heard a clear plan from this Administration for ending our presence in Iraq. And we did not hear one tonight. Democrats believe a credible plan to bring our troops home and stabilize Iraq must include three key elements.



"First, responsibility for Iraqi security must be transferred to the Iraqis as soon as possible. This action is long overdue. The top priority for the U.S. military should be training the Iraqi army. We must not be lulled into a false sense of confidence by the Administration's claim that a large number of security personnel have been trained. It simply hasn't happened, but it must.



"Second, Iraq's economic development must be accelerated. Congress has provided billions of dollars for reconstruction, but little of that money has been spent to put Iraqis to work rebuilding their country. Infrastructure improvements in Iraq are more than just projects; they give Iraqis hope for a better future and a stake in achieving it. And they contribute to Iraqi stability.



"Third, regional diplomacy must be intensified. Diplomacy can lessen the political problems in Iraq, take pressure off of our troops, and deprive the insurgency of the fuel of anti-Americanism on which it thrives.



"If these three steps are taken, the next elections in Iraq, scheduled for December, can be held in a more secure atmosphere, with broader participation, and a much smaller American presence.



"Just as we must transfer greater responsibility to the Iraqi people for their own security, we must embrace a renewed commitment to our security here at home. It's been over three years since the attacks of September 11th. Our hopes and prayers will always be with the 9/11 families, who strengthen our resolve to win the war on terror. The pain and horror of that day will never be forgotten by any of us yet the gaps in our security exposed by those attacks remain.



"Despite the Administration's rhetoric, airline cargo still goes uninspected, shipping containers go unscreened, and our railroads and power plants are not secure. Police officers and firefighters across America have pleaded for the tools they need to prevent or respond to an attack, but the Administration still hasn't delivered for our first responders.



"The greatest threats to our homeland security are the tons of biological, chemical, and even nuclear materials that are unaccounted for or unguarded. The President says the right words about the threat, but he has failed to take action commensurate with it.



"We can and we must keep the world's most gruesome weapons out of the world's most dangerous hands. Nothing is more important to our homeland security, and indeed to the safety of the world.



"For three years, the President has failed to put together a comprehensive plan to protect America from terrorism, and we did not hear one tonight.



"As we strive to close the gaps in our security here at home, we must do more than show our strength as a nation, we must also show our greatness.



"We must extend the hand of friendship to our neighbors in Latin America. We must work to stop the genocide in Sudan. We must reinvigorate the Middle East peace process. And we must bring health and hope to people suffering from disease, devastation, and the fury of despair.



"We are called to do this and more by our faith and our common humanity, and also because these actions will enhance our national security.



"Democrats are committed to a strong national security that keeps America safe, that wins the war on terror, and that never again sends our troops into harm's way without the equipment they need.



"In our New Partnership for America's Future, House Democrats have made a commitment to guarantee a military second to none; to stop the spread of weapons of mass destruction; to build strong diplomatic alliances; to collect timely and reliable intelligence to keep us safe at home; and to honor our veterans and their families by making sure they have the health care and benefits they have earned.



"For those returning from military service today - our newest veterans - Democrats are calling for a G.I. Bill of Rights for the 21st Century to guarantee access to education, health care and the opportunity for good jobs.



"And as we protect and defend the American people, we must also protect and defend our Constitution and the civil liberties contained therein. That is our oath of office.



"A strong and secure America was our parents' gift to us. We owe our children and our grandchildren nothing less.



"Thank you, good night, and may God continue to bless the United States of America."




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[Adelante]

6. Thank you so much for posting that nt

[Todd B]

8. SOTU text is up too.

Think Progress also has the text of the SOTU posted on their website too.

http://thinkprogress.org/index.php?p=82#more-82

[Kevin Spidel]

92. thank you!

this helped us get ahead!

[Kevin Spidel]

7. IS SOCIAL SECURITY REALLY GOING BANKRUPT?

http://blog.progressivevote.org/index.php?p=206

send comments to the above link

[Sparkly]

9. Funny line from the speech (from transcript)

"The principle here is clear: a taxpayer dollar must be spent wisely, or not at all."

Hah!!! These people have a lot of gaul!!

[Sparkly]

10. Pronunciation alert

http://thinkprogress.org/index.php?p=82#more-82

I don't know, but I think he may have to slow way down to say "frivolous asbestos claims."

[MuseRider]

13. Bwahahahaha

I have to slow down to say that so you know he will most likely make up a few new words to get that one out. Could be pretty funny if it weren't so damned sad.

[Endangered Specie]

11. CSPAN online coverage:

http://www.c-span.org/watch/cspan_rm.asp?Cat=TV&Code=CS

[Sparkly]

12. Cheap shot

"During the 1990s, my predecessor, President Clinton, spoke of increasing the retirement age."

[Amaya]

14. Gotta pour me a big drink before I can watch this

[orleans]

15. why is kennedy not going to be there?

keith olberman said he wouldn't be attending for "sad, personal reasons." what's that about?

[htuttle]

38. Perhaps his parrot was ill?

I know I wouldn't leave a sick parrot just to go listen to Bush's SOTU speech. The parrot would definitely take precedence.

:eyes:

[Goldeneye]

16. CNN just showed Kerry and Pelosi talking...

eww cheney...switching to c-span.

[Goldeneye]

17. Oh god, he's talking on C-span, Im going back to CNN

[liveoaktx]

18. Side Note: WHY did Olbermann have so much of Tweety on his show

talking about SOTU? If I wanted to friggin see Tweety, I would watch his show, which I avoid like poison.

[orleans]

20. same here!

[dhinojosa]

72. Asbestos? WTF?

[Peak_Oil]

124. I smell pork. Who has a big lawsuit coming up?

Wonder if they've given him some big campaign contribution

[Sparkly]

19. Omigod he's bringing up the Constitutional amendment

banning gay marriage again... KNOWing it's going nowhere -- just for a little political boost.

[Ashamed_American]

25. Miller High Life time.

What channel to watch this garbage on??

www.BlackEyedSundays.com

[Sparkly]

27. I just read the transcript and I'm not sure I can watch.

:puke:

[paineinthearse]

21. I'm watching CSPAN, no spin, just bull. nt

[paineinthearse]

22. Is that Rosie O'Donnell sitting next to Laura *?

[Scout1071]

32. CSPAN here as well

And staying logged on to DU is the only way I'm going to get thru this shit.

I dislike him so much, it's hard to even watch his smug face and his stepford wife.

[Scout1071]

44. And enough with the faux clapping. Have some damn dignity Dems

and stop clapping.

[AntiFascist]

23. Laura didn't flash the devil sign! nt

[liveoaktx]

24. So Laura the Lump is pandering to Hispanic Women

That's Repubs for ya, always trying to play the race card.

[inslee08]

26. For some reason, I expect that

:puke: will be a popular smiley tonight.
:puke: :puke:

[Ashamed_American]

29. Two things,

1.) Cut out a piece of paper and write the word "LIES" on it, then tape it to the bottom of your TV screen. Makes it easier to bare.

2.) Take a shot every time you hear the word "democracy," "freedom," or "liberty"

www.BlackEyedSundays.com

[truth2power]

98. Afraid I'd die of alcohol poisoning. eom

[derby378]

30. Il Douche has entered the chamber

May God help us all. We're sorry, world. We tried to prevent this.

[Zynx]

87. "Il Douche" is classic. I have to use that.

[derby378]

121. Go for it!

Eja, eja, alala!

(I have no idea what that means - they used to do that for Il Duce.)

[Amaya]

31. Here comes asshole....

:puke:

[TrustingDog]

33. blitzer sounds orgasmic.

what a horror show we are in for.

[Rainbowreflect]

34. On ABC they were talking about who's in the first Lady's box.

Now that's news.

[TrustingDog]

39. if it ain't Gorge, then they better get divorced...

seeing as marriage is for procreation only

[Rainbowreflect]

35. Dupe

[SoCalifer]

36. So It's Starting

If I were in the House right now. I would remain seated.. ;p

[TrustingDog]

41. I'd have a Fart Horn.

[Wabbajack]

37. Who's the cabinet memeber staying behind?

In case the capitol is nuked?

[Sparkly]

42. Margaret Spelling?

I think I heard that... I could be wrong.

[Wabbajack]

51. I think I saw her

I didn't the lone Dem Norm Mineta.

[htuttle]

54. That's what they said on Franken today

Right before the Secretary of Energy wheeled the nuclear bomb into the chamber. You'd have to hear the whole skit, I guess...

[Ashamed_American]

45. By the way,

what's the over/under on the use of democracy/freedom/liberty? I'm keeping track. I say over 40 in all.

www.BlackEyedSundays.com

[frylock]

40. purple finger on cspan..

sip up!!

[LiberalFighter]

59. Deleted... Wrong place

[inslee08]

43. The purple fingers...

OMFG

[LiberalFighter]

46. Some wh*r*s had their finger marked in blue

Someone should had dumped blue ink completely on them

[derby378]

47. "Fellow citizens..."

So what's wrong with "My fellow Americans?"

[A Brand New World]

48. I don't have the intestinal fortitude to listen or watch the chimp. So I'm

depending on someone who does. Do the repukes really have their fingers painted blue? That's all I really care to know about this farce.

[A Brand New World]

55. I see some have already answered my question as I was posting it.

Stupid idiot repukes!!

[Goldeneye]

49. Here come's the bullshit

First thing he said...I was put here by the people
next up...iraq just had their own kick ass election!

[Kevin Spidel]

50. STARTS WITH POLITICAL CAPITAL!

"As a new Congress gathers, all of us in the elected branches of government share a great privilege: we have been placed in office by the votes of the people we serve. "


grrrrr

[LittleClarkie]

85. Good thing he told us

we might never have known otherwise.

[frylock]

52. what about venezuela?

asshole.

[derby378]

53. "Free and sovereign Iraq"

Then why won't we let Iraqis grow their own grain if they're so free?

[Ashamed_American]

56. Social Security upcoming

no doubt.

www.BlackEyedSundays.com

[derby378]

57. "Build a better world for our children..."

"And to do that, I hereby resign as President. See ya 'round, suckers!"

[Stephanie]

58. So Chimp is speaking to ONE generation only

His own - smart move, Chimpy.

[demodonkey]

60. Good stewards of this economy?? WTF??

added jobs, cut taxes

:puke:

[inslee08]

61. Did he just say...

"prostituted" corporate criminals? It sounded a whole lot like that...

(yes i know, "prosecuted"...)

[LiberalFighter]

62. Build a better world for our children and our grandchildren?? Geesh

America hasn't done that since dipshit has been in office.

[inslee08]

By 2009...

conviently, after he gets out of office...

[SoCalifer]

63. Did he say

Spending Discipline? :puke:

[mvd]

64. Thanks for the play-by-play

I can't watch or listen. There will never be so much BS in one place.

[Goldeneye]

65. You all heard him say it.

"tax payer dollars must be spent wisely or not at all."

so wheres that 9 billion dollars?

[derby378]

66. "Taxpayer dollars must be spent wisely or not at all"

$200 billion in taxpayer dollars sent to Iraq. Gee, thanks.

[dhinojosa]

67. hahaha, tax payers money should be spent wisely. eom

[demodonkey]

68. Here we go... cutting 150 programs that "aren't performing"...

(probably Environmental Protection Agency etc)

[Goldeneye]

69. Didn't chimp just cut the pell grants?

[SoCalifer]

70. Did he say

Eliminate Government spending on programs that do not deliver results? Well, well, well, then what better program than the Bull Shit WAR ON DRUGS then Mr. President

[Scout1071]

71. Do they have Applause lights in there?

I feel like they are just so prompted.

Holy crap....he is such a small, small man. Why in the world would anyone vote for him? It is absolutely mind-boggling to me.

[Goldeneye]

78. I was thinking about that.

Does everyone clap, including the democrats? I know its polite...but this man is talking about how he is going to screw this country.

[Scout1071]

113. I think that polite protocol says to clap respectfully, but I think it

should be brief. They need to let him know that he doesn't have a damn mandate.

They are phrasing things just "so" it sounds positive and the Dems look foolish if they don't support. The reality is they are masters of the ideological marketing and bait and switch. Ex: "Four years of debate is long enough we need to develop new ways to become less dependent on foreign energy." Sounds nice to the average ear, probably assuming he's talking about developing new renewable sources of energy...the kind John Kerry spoke about dudring the debates. But he's actually talking about increased drilling here in the USA. Tap those new wells in Alaska and Wyoming!

[kuozzman]

73. Repig Vocab 101: Small business=Large corporation n/t

[dhinojosa]

79. You are absolutely right

[CatholicEdHead]

Class action jab

and "abestous claims". How much did they pay him to say that.

Health decision control then a standing O, including Kerry.

[derby378]

74. "Frivolous asbestos claims" - WTHF?!?!?

Fuckwad-in-Chief just referred to asbestos claims as "frivolous?!?!?"

[Kevin Spidel]

75. PELL GRANTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The idoit CUT THEM, any effort to bring it back to life is "more pell grants" this guy can NOT take credit for fixing his errors!

[dhinojosa]

76. Half a house applauding now

[dhinojosa]

77. Medical erra LMAO

[inslee08]

80. NUKULAR ALERT

[dhinojosa]

81. Same energy strategy and nothing done. NUKYULAR!

[Yellow Horse]

82. Environmentally Responsible Energy...

Safe clean NUCULAR energy...

Clear skies...

[CatholicEdHead]

83. Another year more responisble energy

over and over. Yet nothing save but "nuclear energy", "clear skies", hydrogen cars again, "clean coal", etc...

[SoCalifer]

84. Ahh Man

This idiot is nauseating. Can you hear the bullshit coming out of his sewer?

[zulchzulu]

86. Hastert is asleep and Cheney looks like he's on painkillers

Please Karma.....now!

[Yellow Horse]

91. Anybody see the new "Mosh" video ending.... ?

Looks familiar

[meganmonkey]

88. Dick Cheney looks so creepy back there, leering

and bush** just said "doodie" hee hee.

[EC]

89. Full embargoed text of speech here

http://thinkprogress.org/index.php?p=82#more-82

[mountebank]

self delete

[dhinojosa]

90. Examine Tax Code == Rich don't pay

[CatholicEdHead]

93. Temporary "guest worker" program

that should irritate the real conservative base.

[mountebank]

94. How could a Democrat stand up and applaud anything * says? nt

[inslee08]

95. Uh oh

Here we go with social security

[Yellow Horse]

99. Here it comes... look out Grandma!

[Stephanie]

96. Here we go - SS

The system on its current path is headed toward bankruptcy

YEAH, in 75 YEARS

[dhinojosa]

97. I wish people would sit down....eom

[Wabbajack]

Are the Generals not allowed to clap?

[SoCalifer]

100. Somebody Hand That Guy A Pretzel

Look at his upper-left cheek. Under his makeup, doesn't it look like he forgot to eat a pretzel again?

[Peak_Oil]

101. Social Security Dismantled!

Yahoo!

[Peak_Oil]

106. Peak Social Security! AAAAARGH! n/t

.

[derby378]

110. Il Douche - savior of SS

For example, in the year 2027, the government will somehow have to come up with an extra 200 billion dollars to keep the system afloat - and by 2033, the annual shortfall would be more than 300 billion dollars. By the year 2042, the entire system would be exhausted and bankrupt. If steps are not taken to avert that outcome, the only solutions would be drastically higher taxes, massive new borrowing, or sudden and severe cuts in Social Security benefits or other government programs.

Well, gee willikers, if the Fuckwad-in-Chief hadn't screwed us out of Clinton's surplus, this might not have been such a problem!!!

[dhinojosa]

102. Yeah, social security has problems....bullshit

[dhinojosa]

109. STOP TAKING MONEY FROM SS AND SS WILL BE FINE!!!

Who's booing?

[dhinojosa]

130. So you are saying your SS plans will suck so much that....

you recommend for young people to do something else with instead of putting it in Social Security?

[fryguy]

103. who was just clapping????

funny shit

[Kevin Spidel]

104. DOES SOCIAL SECURITY REALLY FACE A $10 TRILLION DEFICIT?

http://blog.progressivevote.org/index.php?p=207

[demodonkey]

118. Probably... if we keep dipping into it for money for things like Iraq! nt

[Stephanie]

105. DISASTER - trying to alarm people about the year 2042!!!

HAH HAH HAH!!!

[Peak_Oil]

119. $300 billion for war in Iraq, but no $200 billion for Social Sec

How bout that?

[googly]

211. Except $300 Billion is Total cost, $200 is PER YEAR

So that is apples and oranges.

[CatholicEdHead]

107. Massive new borrowing?

what the heck are we doing now?

[frylock]

112. i think he meant to say massive new new borrowing

[fryguy]

108. dissent in the SOTUS

did you hear the moaning......sounds like House of Parliament!

Sweet!!

[babylonsister]

115. See the dems NOT clapping? And why should they? nt

[fryguy]

120. not only not clapping

but there was audible graoning and hissing.....

[derby378]

117. Dems starting to get backbone again?

Maybe not, but we can hope...

[fryguy]

213. here's wishing - n/t

[SoCalifer]

111. Doesn't it look

Like he's been drinking and forgot to eat a pretzel again? Look at his upper cheek? hehe

[Clarkie1]

114. Turn off your T.V. and read the REAL SOTU here...www.thinkprogress.org

http://www.thinkprogress.org/

[Peak_Oil]

142. Human life never bought or sold... OK, that's good.

.

[Peak_Oil]

149. I think they were just doing the Wave

[truth2power]

116. Did you hear that?

Sounded like the dems or somebody were disputing his lies. anyone know what was going on?

[fryguy]

125. groans and hisses

first time i've ever heard that during ANY sotus.....reminds me of Parliament

[Scout1071]

132. The Dems were grumbling back about his scary SS is going to end

date of 2042.

[Scout1071]

122. Why won't they use any of those camera angles when the Dems refuse

to stand? I don't understand why they back out whenever the Dems refuse to stand, but go to several camera angles when the full Senate stands.

[derby378]

126. Can't make Il Douche look bad

Watch it on C-SPAN, not FOX News.

[Scout1071]

154. Umm, I am watching and Tivo'ing CSPAN

[derby378]

170. Just kidding about FOX News ;)

Not a single self-respecting DUer is watching it there, I'm sure.

[fryguy]

123. FUCKING STOP CLAPPING AT THE END OF EVERY SENTENCE

YOU'RE ALL EMBARASSING YOURSELVES......

[Kevin Spidel]

127. BUSH’s PLAN: HIGHER RATE OF RETURN THAN SOCIAL SECURITY?

http://blog.progressivevote.org/index.php?p=208

[Yellow Horse]

138. Bashed the gays... now "culture of life"...

[tkmorris]

128. Lieberman is applauding this idiot?

Man, I hate that guy.

[derby378]

135. You kiddin'? Joe's Republican Lite.

Oops - he just mentioned "ownership." Gotta cultivate that whole "ownership society" meme.

[TheWebHead]

129. Denny Hastert looks like he's on his deathbed

He's making Cheney look like the healthy one, if that's possible.

[fryguy]

131. "rah-ther paid out...."

who's teaching this idiot to speak?

[MO_Dem]

164. Only fake Texans talk like that! eom

[mountebank]

133. We have personal accounts - they are called Roth IRAs. nt

[tkmorris]

134. New thread time

Kevin you wanna make a new one? This one is getting too long for modem people.

[CatholicEdHead]

136. Gay marriage

crap

[inslee08]

137. Laura not clapping

to the ammendment banning gay marriage.

Hmm...

[dhinojosa]

141. Her marriage isn't that hot for her to clap

[derby378]

139. Oh, fuck me...

He's talking about "culture of life" while we continue to kill innocent Iraqis.

[fryguy]

140. WARNING: FLIP FLOPPING AHEAD

stem cells about to be co-oped......what did he say in during the campaign???

[derby378]

143. FUCK ME AGAIN!

He just declared science must submit to dogma!! We're SO fucked.

[fryguy]

144. interesting!

showed judge chertoff

[CatholicEdHead]

145. Check many intrests

for "human life sold as a commody"

Here comes more judge bashing, only right wing nuts.

[dhinojosa]

146. ETH-THI-CO

dumbass.

[Zynx]

147. Social Security is SOCIAL INSURANCE! It is not a 401k!

ARRGGGHHHHHHHHH!!!!!

[dhinojosa]

151. I know, I know

[Zynx]

153. ARRRRRGGGGGHHHHH!!!!!

I'm just pissed that people don't see it.

[liveoaktx]

148. Puke! Winking at Chertoff!

[Kevin Spidel]

150. OMG! - he just winked...

at the justices! when he talked about legislating from the bench!

[Zynx]

156. He is a very strange man.

Very, very strange.

[EC]

152. Looks like Mrs. Reeves wasted her time

being there...

[dhinojosa]

155. Girls can't be in gangs?

[mountebank]

157. I'm sure Laura can really connect with inner-city gang members.

Good choice.

[marcologico]

169. Didn't she kill one with her car once?

Something about a hit and run.

[dhinojosa]

158. Wow, Laura is going to take on America's Gangs?

Now THAT I wanna see

[marcologico]

159. I thought I must have heard that wrong, guess not... weird n/t

[Peak_Oil]

160. DNA databanks increase Freedom!

Come get your cheek scraped today!

[dhinojosa]

161. Talk about African Americans, 2 snds later, he talks about crime and DNA

Anyone catch that?

[rainy]

162. they must have been told to stand and clap often, this is

disturbing and obnoxious.

[fryguy]

163. and now to invoke 9/11

what a shocker!

[dhinojosa]

165. AL QAEDA? SAY IT GEORGE!!!!!! SAY IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You coward piece of shit. No Osama?

[Scout1071]

172. We have one Zarquewi (sp?), but oh no......No Osama.....

[Scout1071]

176. The advance of freedom (troops) will lead to peace?

[frylock]

166. joint chiefs: is this when we're supposed to stand?

yeah, I think so. That was sooooooooooo spontaneous. :eyes:

[demodonkey]

167. WMDs... stay on the offensive until the fight is won...

Big brave WARTIME Prez...

Support the military in time of war and give them the tools for victory...


Other nations standing with us... 28 countries in Iraq

[inslee08]

168. NUCULAR #2

[frylock]

171. the force of human freedom, or FORCED human freedom?

[demodonkey]

174. NOW he says we have no right to force our way of govt on anyone else...

[derby378]

173. BWAHAHAHAHA!!

The United States has no right, no desire, and no intention to impose our form of government on anyone else.

But we did it anyway. SUCKERS!!!

[Ashamed_American]

179. Ehh,

www.BlackEyedSundays.com

[rodeodance]

175. The advance of freedom will lead to peace--says Mr. Bush

[Peak_Oil]

177. Did he just say he was going to conquer more countries?

[rodeodance]

180. well, kind of-he is doing it through instilling democracy

[Bluebear]

181. He certainly did.

[fryguy]

187. georgie wants a new war

he's grown tired of the ones he already has.....like a child on christmas morning

[derby378]

178. Condi Rice travelling to Israel and West Bank

Tomorrow's headline: WORLD WAR III BEGAN TODAY IN JERUSALEM

[dhinojosa]

182. Hello SYRIA!??!?

[inslee08]

183. Oooh, Iran! n/t

[derby378]

184. Il Douche jumping on Syrians again

I'm surprised he didn't accuse them just now of hiding Iraq's WMDs.

[Yellow Horse]

185. Cheney eating cough drops... or heart pills... NUCULAR #3 (or 4)

[fryguy]

186. uh-oh....

whenever he speaks directly to the people of another country...means he's getting ready to invade...

[derby378]

188. Oh, fuck - the blue-finger brigade

Did all those Republicans just vote for Allawi?

[fryguy]

189. RNC painted fingers?

no way that is the mark from Sunday.....like the person hasn't showered since then!

christ!

[marcologico]

190. ok which is it, terrorist threat, WMDs, or bringing freedom to the ME?

Haven't they got their story straight yet?

[fryguy]

191. how lond did he practice that name?

n/t

[EC]

192. Here's fact checks

http://www-nocache.thinkprogress.org/index.php?tag=State%20of%20the%20Union

[Kevin Spidel]

195. thank you for this

[fryguy]

193. no artificial time table to withdraw troops?

but totally artificial timetable for the elections?

[Sparkly]

194. He's working up to the required tearfulness

But where are the Republicans' cute purple heart bandaids while they're doing the troop-honoring?

[derby378]

197. Are the Norwoods big GOP donors? (n/t)

[coffeenap]

199. Parents of a dead soldier OMG

how dare he???

[Sparkly]

201. They celebrated 9/11, now they celebrate his Iraq fiasco

How they manage to turn these disasters into cheering for the incompetent idiot and his criminal cabal is beyond me.

[derby378]

200. Oh, yeah! Purple Heart bandages!!

But Kerry is a Commie Mutant Traitor. FOX News says so.

[fryguy]

he'll honor them,,,,,but not attend ANY funerals

fucking asshole!

[fryguy]

he'll honor them,,,,,but not attend ANY funerals

fucking asshole!

[marcologico]

how is destroying Iraq making the world safer for our grandchildren?

By killing and maiming their parents and running up a multi-trillion dollar debt?

[aldian159]

196. Bear with me DU

I had a shot every time Bush said "freedom" "liberty" or "terror"

I've given up. I'm so wasted

[Yellow Horse]

198. Trot out the requisite mother & dad of deceased soldier...

Mr. & Mrs. Norwood.

(seriously I am sorry for their loss, Byron did NOT need to die!)

[derby378]

202. Il Douche has no right to invoke FDR

What a moran. Thank God the speech is over.

[liveoaktx]

204. I'll bet we hear from James Roosevelt, grandson about this

[derby378]

206. God, I hope so (n/t)

[fryguy]

203. 66 applause - 3 boos and hisses

n/t

[dhinojosa]

205. Did * just kiss Lieberman?

[CatholicEdHead]

207. Applause

between CSPAN and Fox was dramatic. Fox sounded like a mike under every seat with the audio turned up and CSPAN had a muffled mike sound.

[ClarkUSA]

208. The spinning has begun -- everyone on MSNBC says it was a GREAT speech

Everybody on Chris Matthews is a GOP mouthpiece. That Newsweek editor always gushes over Bush.

[Kevin Spidel]

209. DK just wispered to Bush

hmmm.. saying... I am going to find that $9 billion misplaced? I hope so! Way to go DK!

[Warren DeMontague]

212. " we have been placed in office by the votes of the people we serve"

Survey Says: Diebold, Halliburton, and Satan.