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JohnOneillsMemory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-03-05 02:26 PM
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PSY-OPS EXPLAINER: Religion in Media, CIA, Propaganda, White House
Edited on Thu Feb-03-05 02:32 PM by JohnOneillsMemory
American's longing for spirituality in a consumer culture is BEING WEAPONIZED AGAINST THEM IN THE GUISE OF RELIGION.

Religion is being used to 'discredit' science and intellectualism, that is, KNOWING THINGS that could be used to create democracy, indict war criminals, or regulate polluting industries.

Every single story about 'religion' in the CIA-steered mainstream media is pushing misinformed, fearful, US vs THEM-thinking Americans TOWARDS RELIGION. This is part of the 'blue vs red' 'saved vs sinner' strategy to both divide the country and create a brownshirt movement that supports any politician who waves a bible at them.

Why? Because dictators need a 'blindly follow the leader'-mentality in the masses.
The Father/Fuhrer/Lord emotional appeal works as Hitler knew.

That's THE REAL 'INTELLIGENT DESIGN' BEHIND THIS STORY!
This is creating and exploiting the 'Authoritarian Personality' that is the root of BOTH fascism and fundamentalism as discovered by researchers after the massacres of WWII.

This 1979 US Army Psychological Operations Manual says it all. It was meant to be used in Nicaragua but is used on Americans as well:

http://www.tscm.com/CIA_PsyOps_Handbook.html
(Psychological Operations in Guerrilla Warfare
Army Manual 33-1 1979)
>snip<

"The target groups for the Armed Propaganda Teams are not the persons with
sophisticated political knowledge, but rather those whose opinion are formed
from what they see and hear. The cadres should use persuasion to carry out
their mission. Some of the persuasive methods that they can use are the
following:

Interior Group/Exterior Group. It is a principle of psychology that we humans
have the tendency to form personal associations from "we" and "the others," or
"we" and "they", "friends" and "enemies," "fellow countrymen" and
"foreigners,""mestizos" and "gringos."

The Armed Propaganda Team can use this principle in its activities, so that
it is obvious that the "exterior" groups ("false" groups) are those of the
Sandinista regime, and that the "interior" groups ("true" groups) that fight
for the people are the Freedom Commandos.

We should inculcate this in the people in a subtle manner so that these
feelings seem to be born of themselves, spontaneously.

"Against" is much easier that "for." It is a principle of political science
that it is easier to persuade the people to vote against something or someone
than to persuade them to vote in favor of something or someone."

http://www.anesi.com/fscale.htm
(Fascism Receptivity Questionairre plus explainer)

http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/RANCHO/POLITICS/MOCK/mockingbird.html
(Operation Mockingbird: The Subversion of the Free Press by the CIA)

http://www.counterpunch.org/davis01082005.html
(The Psychology of Christian Fundamentalism)
Read this one several times.This is a deep article explaining the difference between looking inward to examine your fears and looking outward to demonize infidels and sinners.

The suicidal impulse towards Armageddon is explained here along with the sexual aspect of shame that feeds the 'bedroom moralizing' on abortion and homosexuality.
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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-03-05 02:32 PM
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1. Very informative and interesting post on the psy-ops campaign,...
Edited on Thu Feb-03-05 02:33 PM by Just Me
,...being waged against our own people.

I'll print this out & file away for future reference.

Thank you!!!
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JohnOneillsMemory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-03-05 02:49 PM
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4. Bush**Speak is crafted right out of Army Manual 33-1. Check this out>>
(The source link on this page doesn't work anymore but the material is still here. Copy it. Save it. Don't let this go down the memoryhole.)

http://www.apfn.net/messageboard/01-06-04/discussion.cgi.79.html
"Propaganda Techniques" is based upon "Appendix I: PSYOP Techniques" from "Psychological Operations Field Manual No.33-1" published by Headquarters; Department of the Army, in Washington DC, on 31 August 1979

Knowledge of propaganda techniques is necessary to improve one's own propaganda and to uncover enemy PSYOP stratagems. Techniques, however, are not substitutes for the procedures in PSYOP planning, development, or dissemination.
Techniques may be categorized as:
Characteristics of the content self-evident. additional information is required to recognize the characteristics of this type of propaganda. "Name calling" and the use of slogans are techniques of this nature.
Additional information required to be recognized. Additional information is required by the target or analyst for the use of this technique to be recognized. "Lying" is an example of this technique. The audience or analyst must have additional information in order to know whether a lie is being told.
Evident only after extended output. "Change of pace" is an example of this technique. Neither the audience nor the analyst can know that a change of pace has taken place until various amounts of propaganda have been brought into focus.
Nature of the arguments used. An argument is a reason, or a series of reasons, offered as to why the audience should behave, believe, or think in a certain manner. An argument is expressed or implied.
Inferred intent of the originator. This technique refers to the effect the propagandist wishes to achieve on the target audience. "Divisive" and "unifying" propaganda fall within this technique. It might also be classified on the basis of the effect it has on an audience.

SELF-EVIDENT TECHNIQUE

Appeal to Authority. Appeals to authority cite prominent figures to support a position idea, argument, or course of action.

Assertion. Assertions are positive statements presented as fact. They imply that what is stated is self-evident and needs no further proof. Assertions may or may not be true.

Bandwagon and Inevitable Victory. Bandwagon-and-inevitable-victory appeals attempt to persuade the target audience to take a course of action "everyone else is taking." "Join the crowd." This technique reinforces people's natural desire to be on the winning side. This technique is used to convince the audience that a program is an expression of an irresistible mass movement and that it is in their interest to join. "Inevitable victory" invites those not already on the bandwagon to join those already on the road to certain victory. Those already, or partially, on the bandwagon are reassured that staying aboard is the best course of action.

Obtain Disapproval. This technique is used to get the audience to disapprove an action or idea by suggesting the idea is popular with groups hated, feared, or held in contempt by the target audience. Thus, if a group which supports a policy is led to believe that undesirable, subversive, or contemptible people also support it, the members of the group might decide to change their position.

Glittering Generalities. Glittering generalities are intensely emotionally appealing words so closely associated with highly valued concepts and beliefs that they carry conviction without supporting information or reason. They appeal to such emotions as love of country, home; desire for peace, freedom, glory, honor, etc. They ask for approval without examination of the reason. Though the words and phrases are vague and suggest different things to different people, their connotation is always favorable: "The concepts and programs of the propagandist are always good, desirable, virtuous."
Generalities may gain or lose effectiveness with changes in conditions. They must, therefore, be responsive to current conditions. Phrases which called up pleasant associations at one time may evoke unpleasant or unfavorable connotations at another, particularly if their frame of reference has been altered.

Vagueness. Generalities are deliberately vague so that the audience may supply its own interpretations. The intention is to move the audience by use of undefined phrases, without analyzing their validity or attempting to determine their reasonableness or application.

Rationalization. Individuals or groups may use favorable generalities to rationalize questionable acts or beliefs. Vague and pleasant phrases are often used to justify such actions or beliefs.

Simplification. Favorable generalities are used to provide simple answers to complex social, political, economic, or military problems.

Transfer. This is a technique of projecting positive or negative qualities (praise or blame) of a person, entity, object, or value (an individual, group, organization, nation, patriotism, etc.) to another in order to make the second more acceptable or to discredit it. This technique is generally used to transfer blame from one member of a conflict to another. It evokes an emotional response which stimulates the target to identify with recognized authorities.

Least of Evils. This is a technique of acknowledging that the course of action being taken is perhaps undesirable but that any alternative would result in an outcome far worse. This technique is generally used to explain the need for sacrifices or to justify the seemingly harsh actions that displease the target audience or restrict personal liberties. Projecting blame on the enemy for the unpleasant or restrictive conditions is usually coupled with this technique.

Name Calling or Substitutions of Names or Moral Labels. This technique attempts to arouse prejudices in an audience by labeling the object of the propaganda campaign as something the target audience fears, hates, loathes, or finds undesirable.
Types of name calling:
-Direct name calling is used when the audience is sympathetic or neutral. It is a simple, straightforward attack on an opponent or opposing idea.
-Indirect name calling is used when direct name calling would antagonize the audience. It is a label for the degree of attack between direct name calling and insinuation. Sarcasm and ridicule are employed with this technique.
-Cartoons, illustrations, and photographs are used in name calling, often with deadly effect.

Dangers inherent in name calling: In its extreme form, name calling may indicate that the propagandist has lost his sense of proportion or is unable to conduct a positive campaign. Before using this technique, the propagandist must weigh the benefits against the possible harmful results. It is best to avoid use of this device. The obstacles are formidable, based primarily on the human tendency to close ranks against a stranger. For example, a group may despise, dislike, or even hate one of its leaders, even openly criticize him, but may (and probably will) resent any non group member who criticizes and makes disparaging remarks against that leader.

Pinpointing the Enemy: This is a form of simplification in which a complex situation is reduced to the point where the "enemy" is unequivocally identified. For example, the president of country X is forced to declare a state of emergency in order to protect the peaceful people of his country from the brutal, unprovoked aggression by the leaders of country.

Plain Folks or Common Man: The "plain folks" or "common man" approach attempts to convince the audience that the propagandist's positions reflect the common sense of the people. It is designed to win the confidence of the audience by communicating in the common manner and style of the audience. Propagandists use ordinary language and mannerisms (and clothes in face-to-face and audiovisual communications) in attempting to identify their point of view with that of the average person. With the plain folks device, the propagandist can win the confidence of persons who resent or distrust foreign sounding, intellectual speech, words, or mannerisms.
The audience can be persuaded to identify its interests with those of the propagandist:
Presenting soldiers as plain folks. The propagandist wants to make the enemy feel he is fighting against soldiers who are "decent, everyday folks" much like himself; this helps to counter themes that paint the opponent as a "bloodthirsty" killer.

Presenting civilians as plain folks. The "plain folks" or "common man" device also can help to convince the enemy that the opposing nation is not composed of arrogant, immoral, deceitful, aggressive, warmongering people, but of people like himself, wishing to live at peace.

Humanizing leaders. This technique paints a more human portrait of US and friendly military and civilian leaders. It humanizes them so that the audience looks upon them as similar human beings or, preferably, as kind, wise, fatherly figures.

Categories of Plain Folk Devices:

Vernacular. This is the contemporary language of a specific region or people as it is commonly spoken or written and includes songs, idioms, and jokes. The current vernacular of the specific target audience must be used.

Dialect. Dialect is a variation in pronunciation, grammar, and vocabulary from the norm of a region or nation. When used by the propagandist, perfection is required. This technique is best left to those to whom the dialect is native, because native level speakers are generally the best users of dialects in propaganda appeals.

Errors. Scholastic pronunciation, enunciation, and delivery give the impression of being artificial. To give the impression of spontaneity, deliberately hesitate between phrases, stammer, or mispronounce words. When not overdone, the effect is one of deep sincerity. Errors in written material may be made only when they are commonly made by members of the reading audience. Generally, errors should be restricted to colloquialisms.

Homey words. Homey words are forms of "virtue words" used in the everyday life of the average man. These words are familiar ones, such as "home," "family," "children," "farm," "neighbors," or cultural equivalents. They evoke a favorable emotional response and help transfer the sympathies of the audience to the propagandist. Homey words are widely used to evoke nostalgia. Care must be taken to assure that homey messages addressed to enemy troops do not also have the same effect on US/friendly forces.
If the propaganda or the propagandist lacks naturalness, there may be an adverse backlash. The audience may resent what it considers attempts to mock it, its language, and its ways.

Social Disapproval. This is a technique by which the propagandist marshals group acceptance and suggests that attitudes or actions contrary to the one outlined will result in social rejection, disapproval, or outright ostracism. The latter, ostracism, is a control practice widely used within peer groups and traditional societies.

Virtue Words. These are words in the value system of the target audience which tend to produce a positive image when attached to a person or issue. Peace, happiness, security, wise leadership, freedom, etc., are virtue words.

Slogans. A slogan is a brief striking phrase that may include labeling and stereotyping. If ideas can be sloganized, they should be, as good slogans are self-perpetuating.

Testimonials. Testimonials are quotations, in or out of context, especially cited to support or reject a given policy, action, program, or personality. The reputation or the role (expert, respected public figure, etc.) of the individual giving the statement is exploited. The testimonial places the official sanction of a respected person or authority on a propaganda message. This is done in an effort to cause the target audience to identify itself with the authority or to accept the authority's opinions and beliefs as its own. Several types of testimonials are:

Official Sanction. The testimonial authority must have given the endorsement or be clearly on record as having approved the attributed idea, concept, action, or belief.
Four factors are involved:
Accomplishment. People have confidence in an authority who has demonstrated outstanding ability and proficiency in his field. This accomplishment should be related to the subject of the testimonial.

Identification with the target. People have greater confidence in an authority with whom they have a common bond. For example, the soldier more readily trusts an officer with whom he has undergone similar arduous experiences than a civilian authority on military subjects.

Position of authority. The official position of authority may instill confidence in the testimony; i.e., head of state, division commander, etc.

Inanimate objects. Inanimate objects may be used in the testimonial device. In such cases, the propagandist seeks to transfer physical attributes of an inanimate object to the message. The Rock of Gibraltar, for example, is a type of inanimate object associated with steadfast strength.
Personal Sources of Testimonial Authority:
Enemy leaders. The enemy target audience will generally place great value on its high level military leaders as a source of information.

Fellow soldiers. Because of their common experiences, soldiers form a bond of comradeship. As a result, those in the armed forces are inclined to pay close attention to what other soldiers have to say.

Opposing leaders. Testimonials of leaders of the opposing nation are of particular value in messages that outline war aims and objectives for administering the enemy nation after it capitulates.

Famous scholars, writers, and other personalities. Frequently, statements of civilians known to the target as authoritative or famous scholars, writers, scientists, commentators, etc., can be effectively used in propaganda messages.
Nonpersonal Sources of Testimonial Authority:
Institutions, ideologies, national flags, religious, and other nonpersonal sources are often used. The creeds, beliefs, principles, or dogmas of respected authorities or other public figures may make effective propaganda testimonials.

Factors To Be Considered:
Plausibility. The testimonial must be plausible to the target audience. The esteem in which an authority is held by the target audience will not always transfer an implausible testimonial into effective propaganda.

False testimonials. Never use false testimonials. Highly selective testimonials? Yes. Lies (fabrications)? Never. Fabricated (false) testimonials are extremely vulnerable because their lack of authenticity makes them easy to challenge and discredit.
PROPAGANDA TECHNIQUES WHICH ARE BASED ON CHARACTERISTICS OF THE CONTENT BUT WHICH REQUIRE ADDITIONAL INFORMATION ON THE PART OF AN ANALYST TO BE RECOGNIZED

Incredible truths. There are times when the unbelievable (incredible) truth not only can but should be used.
Among these occasions are:
When the psychological operator is certain that a vitally important event will take place.
A catastrophic event, or one of significant tactical or strategic importance, unfavorable to the enemy has occurred and the news has been hidden from the enemy public or troops.
The enemy government has denied or glossed over an event detrimental to its cause.

A double-cutting edge. This technique has a double-cutting edge: It increases the credibility of the US/friendly psychological operator while decreasing the credibility of the enemy to the enemy's target audience. Advanced security clearance must be obtained before using this technique so that operations or projects will not be jeopardized or compromised. Actually, propagandists using this technique will normally require access to special compartmented information and facilities to avoid compromise of other sensitive operations or projects of agencies of the US Government.
Though such news will be incredible to the enemy public, it should be given full play by the psychological operator. This event and its significance will eventually become known to the enemy public in spite of government efforts to hide it. The public will recall (the psychological operator will "help" the recall process) that the incredible news was received from US/a
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-03-05 02:39 PM
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2. Great Post.
We should have taken down these bastards in the 80s when they were on the ropes.

It really is a war on liberals/progressives, because we are the only ones capable of seeing through their designs for a totalitarian state.
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VioletLake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-03-05 02:59 PM
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6. I agree that we should have taken them down before.
But they're waging a war on the entire country, not just liberals/progressives. That said, liberals/progressives come closest to being treated like foreign enemies because "we are the only ones capable of seeing through their designs for a totalitarian state."

We are perhaps their most powerful opponents. They can't "silence" us like they do their foreign opponents (yet). They're forced to deal with us on our terms. Of course they're working to change that...
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JohnOneillsMemory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-03-05 03:15 PM
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7. As resistance, we are naked and observed at DU. That's why it's still here
COINTELPRO used infiltration and observation tactics against dissent in the 1960s. While 'real' liberal groups were infiltrated, fake ones were created by the FBI to draw out and observe dissenters.

'Keep your friends close to you and your enemies even closer.'

This is why the internet is still a place for our organizing efforts while DARPA and NSA and CIA watch us and take names in case the 1960s come back and mass movements disturb the economy. Leaders will be arrested as terrorists to chill the rest of the resistance.

All the mechanisms of detention camps and military occupation of US cities under FEMA is already in place. Now that voting machines have been disconnected from voters, the trick is to both inform our Congress and public of the scam and hope they have the courage to stop this march towards a totalitarian state competing with China and Russia for control of oil in horrible future wars.

Knowing how our fellow Americans are having their minds messed with is an important step to revealing the scam and opening eyes. I sincerely hope we have time to save our country and the world.

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VioletLake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-03-05 03:33 PM
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9. I agree...
And I have the same hope, although sometimes it feels like we won't be able to help avert the impending catastrophe.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-07-05 12:36 AM
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50. I agree
It makes sense as to why all Bush does in his campaign's is smear people. He never talks about the issues. Only the negative things dealing with other people and he has other people help him out.
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-03-05 02:48 PM
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3. This makes things so much easier
First Amendment no big deal, students say


Study shows American teenagers indifferent to freedoms

...

Yet, when told of the exact text of the First Amendment, more than one in three high school students said it goes “too far” in the rights it guarantees. Only half of the students said newspapers should be allowed to publish freely without government approval of stories.

“These results are not only disturbing; they are dangerous,” said Hodding Carter III, president of the John S. and James L. Knight Foundation, which sponsored the $1 million study. “Ignorance about the basics of this free society is a danger to our nation’s future.”

...

Three in four students said flag burning is illegal. It’s not. About half the students said the government can restrict any indecent material on the Internet. It can’t.

...

“The last 15 years have not been a golden era for student media,” said Warren Watson, director of the J-Ideas project at Ball State University in Indiana. “Programs are under siege or dying from neglect. Many students do not get the opportunity to practice our basic freedoms.”




http://msnbc.msn.com/id/6888837/
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atommom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-03-05 02:51 PM
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5. Fascinating! Thanks for the links!
:kick:
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Supersedeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-06-05 05:28 PM
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46. Provocative, for sure.
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JohnOneillsMemory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-03-05 03:25 PM
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8. Here are the psychological traits measured on that Fascism questionairre.
(This sounds like too many Americans that I've met and then stayed away from.)

1) Conventionalism: Rigid adherence to conventional, middle-class values.

2) Authoritarian Submission: Submissive, uncritical attitude toward idealized moral authorities of the ingroup.

3) Authoritarian Aggression: Tendency to be on the lookout for, and to condemn, reject, and punish people who violate conventional values.

4) Anti-intraception: Opposition to the subjective, the imaginative, the tender-minded.

5) Superstition and Stereotypy: The belief in mystical determinants of the individual's fate; the disposition to think in rigid categories.

6) Power and "Toughness": Preoccupation with the dominance-submission, strong-weak, leader-follower dimension; identification with power figures; overemphasis upon the conventionalized attributes of the ego; exaggerated assertion of strength and toughness.

7) Destructiveness and Cynicism: Generalized hostility, vilification of the human.

8)Projectivity: The disposition to believe that wild and dangerous things go on in the world; the projection outwards of unconscious emotional impulses.

9) Sex: Exaggerated concern with sexual "goings-on."
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-04-05 05:57 AM
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27. Okay, when does #8 stop being projection? lol n/t
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JohnOneillsMemory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-05-05 01:37 PM
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34. #9-"Exaggerated concern with sexual goings-on"..Fundie crotch-sniffing.n/t
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JohnOneillsMemory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-03-05 04:57 PM
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10. This 1/20/05 Granny D speech is on target. Time for sacrifice, hard work.
Edited on Thu Feb-03-05 05:03 PM by JohnOneillsMemory
(This speech of Granny D's seems appropriate. Will Pitt just posted that she's in the hospital. Her speech and address for our support are below.Here is Will Pitt's post on Granny D.-jom)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x3051249
Doris 'Granny D' Haddock is in the hospital



If you are the praying sort, now would be a good time. Surgery for someone of her age is as dangerous as whatever the ailment requiring surgery may be. Please keep this hero in your thoughts.

Received via email:

Friends,

Doris "Granny D" Haddock, 95, is in a Lebanon, New Hampshire hospital
today. She is in surgery at this moment to remove a tumor in her throat.
The surgery is expected to cost her her normal voice, though she said
before surgery that she will find ways to continue to communicate her
political message of reform and democracy. "Sometimes you speak loudest
just by standing there," she said, remembering her several arrests in
the U.S. Capitol Rotunda for standing up for the Bill of Rights and
democratic reforms..

For friends wishing to send cards, her address for the next five days
will be: Doris Haddock, Dartmouth-Hitchcock Medical Center, 1 Medical
Center Drive, Lebanon NH 03756.

Sincerely,

Dennis Burke

Ps. I will post updates on the http://DemocracyWeek.org site. For those
of you who heard her speak in Washington DC during the recent
counter-inaugural protests, cherish that memory of the great sound of
her voice -- one of the few in our times with the courage to speak the
truth.

Her remarks that morning (Jan 20) at Meridian (Malcolm X) Park:

Thank you.

We have honored Dr. King this week. When we honor him we honor many
others, all the way back in time to the Sermon on the Mount and beyond,
who have given us, if we will but use them, the political tools of love
and their great power over all other human forces.

Gandhi taught us that, when used right, non-violent non-cooperation
always wins. He gave us five principles to remember in its use: First,
know that you are dealing with the truth. Do your research. Bring in the
experts. Know the truth before you dare speak for it.

Second, ask those in authority to remedy the problem at hand, and give
them a reasonable time to act. Don't ask them to do more than they can.

Third, involve the wider community's conscience in the problem. Share
the problem widely.

Fourth, if those in power will not remedy the problem, show the extent
of your moral concern through your personal sacrifice. Stand in the way
of the injustice with your own body, doing no harm to others, for it is
your moral courage that will move the conscience of society toward
awareness and action. If you have not won yet, your sacrifice has been
insufficient. The fifth principle, because the previous four will give
you control of the issue, is to graciously allow the opposing side to
save face in the final settlement, as you must love them, too, and will
meet them again.

We have the power to win, to serve justice, to protect our neighbors and
our planet, but victory comes at the price of our courage and our pain.

So we have our issues. A warming planet, an unjust war, a long list of
policies that do great harm to the people and places of the world. We
have done our homework and know the truth. We have petitioned for the
redress of our grievances and we have waited. We have informed the world
so that many are involved. We know what is next for us and it is the
fourth principle: our sacrifice.

So that our great grandchildren will look back and say of us, yes, in
the first years of the 21st Century, they faced the most difficult of
times with extraordinary courage. They knew they would not live forever
and they cared that their lives and deaths should mean something. They
saved American democracy and the life of the planet with their creative
resistance and their courage. While others around them slept through
grey lives, they were awake, they saw, they acted, they overcame all the
great forces against them. They saved the forests and mountains, the
oceans, streams, the air, the Constitution and its Bill of Rights, they
saved our ancient hope for a just world, for a peaceful world, where the
highest potential of every human might be understood as the greatest
resource of every society and nation.

Well, we know where we are and who we struggle against. I have been in
their jails and it's not so bad. I know many of you have been in their
prisons and felt the sting of their batons and bullets and gasses, and
it is not so bad, compared to losing our freedom or the life of our
planet.

The limousines of monstrous presumption whisk by us today, but we need
not feel powerless, for the real power of history is always in the
people's hearts and hands. All the power of change is given by fate and
history to the courageous, who fear the loss of liberty and justice more
than that brief glimmer of life that sparkles through the eternity of
who we are. And so we take our parts in the great struggle between dark
and light, fear and love, between the withering decomposition of
separation, and the living joy of combination, cooperation and growth.

Let our neighbors, who have voted another way or not at all, see what we
are made of and what we are willing to do for love, for life, for
justice. Only a few more of them need step forward to our side for love
and life and justice to win. They will not step forward if we are not
full of courage and grace and beauty and most of all love. We will
inspire them with awe. For, from this time forward, our courage must
rise to end the war and the coming wars, to end the destruction of our
land and its people, and of our planet and its life. With love in our
hearts, with a vision before us of a better America made visible in our
own lives, we will do what history demands of us now. And so say us all.
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JohnOneillsMemory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-03-05 06:29 PM
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11. Tactics: The Language of Spin, Characteristics of Good Propaganda. Learn!
(This is an excellent article about how marketing products in the early 20th century led to formulating the science of manipulation that the White House uses to get what it wants from us.-jom)

http://www.thedoctorwithin.com/index_fr.html?content=articles/index.html
(The Doors of Perception: Why Americans Will Believe Almost Anything, by Tim O'Shea)

>snip<

THE LANGUAGE OF SPIN

As 1920s spin pioneers like Ivy Lee and Edward Bernays gained more experience, they began to formulate rules and guidelines for creating public opinion. They learned quickly that mob psychology must focus on emotion, not facts. Since the mob is incapable of rational thought, motivation must be based not on logic but on presentation. Here are some of the axioms of the new science of PR:

* technology is a religion unto itself
* if people are incapable of rational thought, real democracy is dangerous
* important decisions should be left to experts
* when reframing issues, stay away from substance; create images
* never state a clearly demonstrable lie

Words are very carefully chosen for their emotional impact.

>snip<

CHARACTERISTICS OF GOOD PROPAGANDA

As the science of mass control evolved, PR firms developed further guidelines for effective copy. Here are some of the gems:

* dehumanize the attacked party by labeling and name calling
* speak in glittering generalities using emotionally positive words
* when covering something up, don't use plain English; stall for time; distract
* get endorsements from celebrities, churches, sports figures, street people - anyone who has no expertise in the subject at hand
* the 'plain folks' ruse: us billionaires are just like you
* when minimizing outrage, don't say anything memorable
* when minimizing outrage, point out the benefits of what just happened
* when minimizing outrage, avoid moral issues

Keep this list. Start watching for these techniques. Not hard to find - look at today's paper or tonight's TV news. See what they're doing; these guys are good!

>snip<

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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-03-05 07:01 PM
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13. It was the obvious utilization of "emotional blackmail" that first tipped
me off to the mass psy-ops (I took masters course in clinical psych on top of my JD).

This is really great stuff!

I'm just wondering how we can best go about defeating it.

Do we attempt to inform the public about its existence?
Do we attempt to inform the public about psy-ops (and avoid revealing its utilization against the American people, allowing them to make the connections on their own)?
Do we attempt to use counter psy-ops?
Do we combine all three approaches?

Life in the U.S. is not going to improve unless this beast is conquered. At least, I don't anticipate that it will get any better since we are basically a corporate state already.
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JohnOneillsMemory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-03-05 07:14 PM
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15. The truth of this scam is both shocking and believable, like 9/11.
Edited on Thu Feb-03-05 07:15 PM by JohnOneillsMemory
Will Pitt and others have counseled me that talking about the Prescott Bush financing of Hitler is a losing effort.

I think it is an AMAZING story and hook to expose this fascist mess that is as exciting as an Indiana Jones movie.

To not tell the Big Story in favor of smaller ones is like being told not to be quiet so as NOT to wake up the sleep-walking public headed for the cliff. Just like the pathetic Dem response to the SOTU last night.

I got on Mike Malloy last night on Air America Radio and dumped the Prescott Bush story and Operation Mockingbird to a national audience. Atleast a few are going to follow up on their search engines and spread what they found out to amaze their friends.

The Army 33-1 Manual says "play us vs them" and "it's easier to be against something than for."

There are tactics we can derive to expose the war criminals with what I like to call 'Proper-ganda,' that is, using the how-to-be-heard mechanics to tell what needs to be told.

I hope that makes sense. I gotta hope...
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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-03-05 07:49 PM
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17. "Proper-ganda" is good. This is what we really need.
One insider prepared to expose that, in fact, this is/has been a campaign utilized by the neoCONspirators.

Maybe that one insider has already done so and I know nothing of it.

:shrug:
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EVDebs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-03-05 08:20 PM
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19. Gen Smedley D. Butler's story with the Coup attempt of 1932 that
involved Prescott and George Herbert Walker is available on VHS from
http://www.ihffilm.com/r547.html

"The Plot to Overthrow FDR (Smedley D. Butler)" for $19.95

Jules Archer's book is rare and very expensive from what I've heard, but if you find it let me know ($317 ain't cheap !)
guess they don't want us reading this one, huh ?

"The Plot to Seize the White House"
http://www.alibris.com/search/search.cfm
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-07-05 12:46 AM
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51. Is there anyway
to get this information to Mr. Reid? I know he has that "war room" that he wants to do. Some of this stuff could be very useful for those dems going on these right-wing shows.
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denese Donating Member (247 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-04-05 07:33 PM
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29. Thank you for sharing that
That is one of the most moving things I have ever read.
Thanks a lot for passing it on.
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Vinnie From Indy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-03-05 06:43 PM
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12. Lord Help us All! Kick! n/t
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JohnOneillsMemory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-03-05 07:05 PM
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14. Scholars Perfect Psychological Warfare Techniques (1940s and 1950s)
(This article describes how polls and psychology were combined to firm up techniques of manipulating the American public.-jom)

http://www.cia-on-campus.org/social/simpson.html
(Scholars Perfect Psychological Warfare Techniques)

Excerpt from Science of Coercion: Communication Research and Psychological Warfare, 1945-1960 by Christopher Simpson (New York: Oxford University Press, 1996 paperback), pp. 48-51:

>snip<

"...an informal comparison of articles published during the 1950s concerning mass communication and public opinion in POQ and the prestigious American Journal of Sociology (AJS) shows that its articles in this field were just as rooted in psychological warfare contracts as were those appearing in POQ. The 1949-50 volume of AJS, for example, featured eight articles on various aspects of mass communication and public opinion. At least four of these stemmed directly or indirectly from ongoing psychological warfare projects, including work by Hans Speier and Herbert Goldhamer (both of RAND Corp.), Samuel Stouffer (from the American Soldier project), and Leo Lowenthal (then the director of research for the Voice of America, whose political odyssey is discussed in Chapter 6).38

In sum, the data show that Public Opinion Quarterly -- and perhaps other contemporary academic journals as well -- exhibited at least three important characteristics that linked the publication with the U.S. government's psychological warfare effort during the first decade after World War II. First, POQ became an important advocate for U.S. propaganda and psychological warfare projects of the period, frequently publishing case studies, research reports, and polemics in favor of expanded psychological operations. Second and more subtly, many POQ articles articulated U.S. propaganda themes on topics other than psychological warfare itself. Examples include the magazine's editorial line on U.S.-Soviet relations and on the Italian election of 1948.

Finally, data suggest that some members of the journal's editorial board and certain of the authors maintained an unusually close liaison with the clandestine propaganda and intelligence operations of the day."

>snip<

more...
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JohnOneillsMemory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-03-05 07:29 PM
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16. Edward Bernays, The Father of Propaganda sold WWI, bacon, tobacco.
(This is more from the article 'Why Americans Will Believe Anything.-jom)

>snip<

"In their book Trust Us We're Experts, Stauber and Rampton pull together some compelling data describing the science of creating public opinion in America. They trace modern public influence back to the early part of the last century, highlighting the work of guys like Edward L. Bernays, the Father of Spin.

From his own amazing 1928 chronicle Propaganda, we learn how Edward L. Bernays took the ideas of his famous uncle Sigmund Freud himself, and applied them to the emerging science of mass persuasion. The only difference was that instead of using these principles to uncover hidden themes in the human unconscious, the way Freudian psychology does, Bernays studied these same ideas in order to learn how to mask agendas and to create illusions that deceive and misrepresent, for marketing purposes.

THE FATHER OF SPIN

Edward L. Bernays dominated the PR industry until the 1940s, and was a significant force for another 40 years after that. (Tye) During that time, Bernays took on hundreds of diverse assignments to create a public perception about some idea or product. A few examples:

As a neophyte with the Committee on Public Information, one of Bernays' first assignments was to help sell the First World War to the American public with the idea to "Make the World Safe for Democracy." (Ewen) We've seen this phrase in every war and US military involvement since that time.

A few years later, Bernays set up a stunt to popularize the notion of women smoking cigarettes. In organizing the 1929 Easter Parade in New York City, Bernays showed himself as a force to be reckoned with. He organized the Torches of Liberty Brigade in which suffragettes marched in the parade smoking cigarettes as a mark of women's liberation. After that one event, women would be able to feel secure about destroying their own lungs in public, the same way that men have always done.

Bernays popularized the idea of bacon for breakfast.

Not one to turn down a challenge, he set up the liaison between the tobacco industry and the American Medical Association that lasted for nearly 50 years. They proved to all and sundry that cigarettes were beneficial to health. Just look at ads in old issues of Life, Look, Time or Journal of the American Medical Association from the 40s and 50s in which doctors are recommending this or that brand of cigarettes as promoting healthful digestion, or whatever.

During the next several decades Bernays and his colleagues evolved the principles by which masses of people could be generally swayed through messages repeated over and over, hundreds of times per week.

Once the economic power of media became apparent, other countries of the world rushed to follow our lead. But Bernays remained the gold standard. He was the source to whom the new PR leaders across the world would always defer. Even Josef Goebbels, Hitler's minister of propaganda, closely studied the principles of Edward Bernays when Goebbels was developing the popular rationale he would use to convince the Germans that in order to purify their race they had to kill 6 million of the impure. (Stauber)"
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EVDebs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-03-05 08:15 PM
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18. And don't forget PsyOps at CNN during the 2000 election
CNN AND PSYOPS
By Alexander Cockburn
http://www.counterpunch.org/cnnpsyops.html

Or the CIA's version called Operation Mockingbird, that's been around since the beginning
www.prisonplanet.com/analysis_ louise_01_03_03_mockingbird.html

Why don't they pass the kool-aid now and git r' done !
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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-05-05 01:15 PM
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33. Are there biographies which would identify who?
Or are they "scrubbed"?
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JohnOneillsMemory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-03-05 08:26 PM
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20. Someone just put a fake link up supposedly to 'The God of the Blue States'
Totally bogus effort to discredit Dems as 'anti-God.' The lure was that the 'author' was encouraging Dems not to address religion because it wasn't at all neccessary statistically. Right.

The supposed text had a scientist sneering at people of faith as if Dems were a bunch of condescending seculars who wanted to ban religion.

The link really went to a NYT article about the difficulty science teachers are having because of the campaign against evolution. The article was really called 'Evolution Takes a Back Seat in US Classrooms.'

I started this thread to point out the abuse of weaponized religion, not to scorn religion itself.

I think the DU post-er named 'Fire' might have reacted to my thread by 'fighting fire with fire' and doing a little psy-ops on us!!

A lesson in the info wars we are in, friends....
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kiki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-03-05 08:33 PM
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21. Re: The "F-Scale"
Some of those questions are really subtle aren't they? Might as well have put:

I think Arbeit makes you Frei.
I don't hold with all this "Holocaust" nonsense.
I hates the Jews and the Nigras.
Basically, I AM A FASCIST.

Still, before 9-11 anyway, I'd probably be surprised at the answers some people would give to questions that I consider laughable...
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JohnOneillsMemory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-03-05 09:15 PM
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22. Admittedly, that was from 1950, the same year Scientology was born!!
Much more has been developed since those earl days of understanding why millions embraced Hitler, Mussolini, Franco, etc.

The personality traits being examined are very interesting and look quite contemporary.

1950 was also the year that former US Navy and Hollywood propaganda writer, L. Ron Hubbard, introduced a religion called 'Dianetics' that was constructed on the same psy-ops principles of relying on 'experts' and 'authority' to create a new religion for a corporate culture that saw its population as an economic tool of the Military Industrial Complex which has now become Big Brother.

I'm studying the craft of propaganda in popular artifacts. I picked up the massive 835-page book 'What is Scientology' at Borders for $5.

On page 517, right in the testimonials section of admiring 'authority figures,' are two from CIA agents. One of them is the most famous one for many of us who have studied Bay of Pigs and Vietnam, L. Fletcher Prouty who is only identified as Col. US Air Force (Ret.). The other is a 'Voice of America' producer, VOA being solely a propaganda organ.

On page 433 are 21 'moral precepts for happiness.' They blow the cover of a religion designed to keep people within a corporate system called 'fascism.'

#9 "Don't Do Anything Illegal."
#10 "Support a Government Designed and Run For All the People."
#14 "Be Worthy of Trust."
#15 "Fulfill Your Obligations."
#16 "Be Industrious."
#17 "Be Competent."

Look at #10 closely. It does not promote democracy. It promotes Big Brother. The rest all tell you do what Big Brother wants you to do.

The artwork in the book deifying L. Ron Hubbard is classic propaganda.
Every technique in Army Psy Ops Manual 33-1 is evident in this book.

Yup, I learned alot from it. I learned why it is so successful. Scientology was carefully crafted using everything the CIA had.


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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-03-05 09:36 PM
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23. EW!!! I picked up that book years ago just out of curiosity.
NO WAY could I force myself to get past more than a few dozen pages.

I found a LOT of other alternatives in spiritual reading from a wide variety of religious orientations.

I suppose that's how and why I ended up a "deist" with no attachments to any particular religion.

The tie-in with human beings' natural desire for a higher order is far more relevant than, I guess, I ever realized.

I'll tell you of another "program" I always found suspect called, "The Landmark Forum". Have you heard of it?
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postulater Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-03-05 09:48 PM
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24. What's wrong with that?

#9 "Don't Do Anything Illegal."
#10 "Support a Government Designed and Run For All the People."
#14 "Be Worthy of Trust."
#15 "Fulfill Your Obligations."
#16 "Be Industrious."
#17 "Be Competent."


These seem like reasonable guidelines. They're things I would like my kids to know. They are ideas that I have found make my interpersonal relations work better.

But I don't have a Big Brother and I don't think he taught them to me. I thought I learned them from experience.
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dbeach Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-03-05 09:57 PM
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25. Spiritual solutions to problems may save us in long run but
the bush cartel and their echo media are bringing down Liberty faster than you can chant OM or say 9/11 was done by terrists and suffering through the bush yrs ain't pretty.
Tahnx for post and I agree!













Blessed are the peacemakers for they are children of God

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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-04-05 04:41 AM
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26. Love your handle...
I haven't forgotten John O'Neill
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JohnOneillsMemory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-04-05 07:13 PM
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28. I was horrified when the SBVT anti-Kerry smearer surfaced. ech..n/t
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-05-05 12:05 AM
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30. I haven't either. Never will. n/t
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Clark2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-07-05 12:46 AM
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52. Has his book come out in paperback?
I saw it in hardback at a 9/11 Memorial. I'm a single mom, so the cost was a bit pricey for me.
However, I'd still like to read it.
Maybe I can buy used on Amazon.
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sarahlee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-05-05 03:02 AM
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31. Schopenhauer
See also: The Art of Controversy by Arthur Schopenhauer.

http://www.uncharted.org/frownland/books/Schopenhauer/aoc.html
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JohnOneillsMemory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-05-05 01:09 PM
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32. KICK for the weekend Joe Lois vs Max Schmelling, Nazis on NPR
Edited on Sat Feb-05-05 01:20 PM by JohnOneillsMemory
NPR was spinning hard this morning. They touched on one of the most interesting propaganda topics of race relations and the US's schizophrenic traits of slavery and apartheid leading to the rise of Hitler.
http://epsilon3.georgetown.edu/~coventrm/asa2000/panel1/sklaroff.html


Out of the blue, no context in or out, a 'historical piece' about the boxing match between African American Joe Louis and Nazi Germany's Max Schmelling.

The piece described how Max went back to Nazi Germany, saved a couple of Jews, went to the US, went broke, became a Coca-Cola distributor and got rich, and then gave money to down-on-his-luck Joe Louis.

So the 'morality play' dropped in for no apparent reason is:
1) Those who supported the Nazis (Prescott Bush? US money?)repented
2) ...and saved Jews. (White Hat Sheriff)
3) Got rich on a US corporation (yay Capitalism!)
4) Handed money to a poor African American. (Virtuous Mercy)

Because Nazis are in the news today. A congressional committe is demanding documents on Nazi War Crimes from the CIA which is stonewalling. And this, right after the Auschwitz liberation ceremonies.

AND Rumsfeld can't go to Germany due to war crimes charges against him.

You see how propaganda works everyday?
NPR= National Propaganda Radio
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JohnOneillsMemory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-05-05 01:44 PM
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35. My info is not 'anti-religion,' it is an expose of the WEAPONIZING OF IT.
Edited on Sat Feb-05-05 01:45 PM by JohnOneillsMemory
One of the media psy-ops messages is that 'liberal Dems hate God and sneer at people's faith.'

I have my own spirituality that abhors war crimes, torture, bigotry, fascism, and manipulation of the masses to these ends.

I wanted to make that perfectly clear since I recently found a thread started at DU pointing to a fake story about the 'Death of Faith.'

It was an intentional effort to portray DU-ers and our ilk as 'anti-God.'

This confirms the timeliness of my efforts to explain how and why religion is being weaponized in the culture wars.
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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-05-05 04:09 PM
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37. Yes. I understood that, "weaponizing religion" aspect.
That psy-op message re "Dems hate God/sneer at people's faith" is actually the opposite of the truth which is that we embrace people of all faiths including those who place their faith strictly in humanity.
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JohnOneillsMemory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-06-05 01:42 PM
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39. oops. I meant to attach to my OP, not directed at you, amigo.
Edited on Sun Feb-06-05 01:43 PM by JohnOneillsMemory
It occured to me that my own post could be percieved as hostile to religion with over-clinical language.

I recently learned that evoking awareness in other threads has the side effect of fomenting generalized suspicions, the price of addressing the disturbing topic of info-war.

I'm both stunned and disturbed to have suggested that the Ward Churchill ("litte Eichmanns") flap was a diversion to CIA-NAZI revelations on the near horizen. When the same key word 'Eichmann' showed up, I celebrated the psy-ops based prediction and then wilted as I realized that other scary predictions might be correct, as well.
http://test.haaretzdaily.com/hasen/spages/536364.html
(Documents Reveal CIA Recruited Eichmann Associates 2/5/05)

I was recently counseled to observe 'Godwin's Law' that the first person in a thread to use the word 'Nazi' loses. This is a law that needs to be broken so that 'It Can't Happen Here.' It already is happening here and we damn well better speak up.

Argh. "Can't we all pretend to get along?" I'm going to go back to accepting everything at face value and walking in the sunshine...

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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-06-05 04:43 PM
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43. It's okay. Our common objective must be exposing the neoCONspirators.
While I appreciate your expression of sensitivity towards me,...I will tell that I didn't perceive your post as hostile and I regret that you perceived anything to the contrary. If it was something I posted, please (sincerely) indicate the words.

Meanwhile, walking in the sunshine is the only space where you can take things "at face value". A good space where you can find some peace and center and remind yourself that, all of life is a process to manage as best as we can,...and that's good enough,...THAT IS GOOD ENOUGH!!!

Moreover,...of course, we can all get along,...if we want to, if we choose to do so. Our common enemy are those who seek to divide us aLong lines that are just, plain GROSS!!! They are the enemies to humanity.

Which is why I pose the challenge that we become a member of one race, the human race, and make our common objective:

EXPOSING THE NEOCONSPIRATORS!!!!
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-07-05 01:15 AM
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53. I think that's why
the dems need to really show how certain republicans in office don't do God's work as mentioned in the Bible but work for big corporations and doesn't help the little people. Also in Romans 5 it talks about honoring people and in Romans 6 talks about the law and Christians. If someone who is running for a political office and is a believer of God and the Bible should try to use it to their advantage. That's what Bush does. He puts himself in the Christian catagorie and makes it to where his oppointent isn't a Chrisitan whether they are or not as he did with Ann Richards and John Kerry. We have to show people how the republicans aren't the only religious people and how the democratic party has many faiths. That's one thing I really enjoy about the party. We're for everybody. Not one particular group.
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NVMojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-06-05 03:28 PM
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40. I hear where you are coming from John, but this is what is so evil
about this group, any attacks against their schemes will be viewed as anti-christian ...and the poor, uninformed Christians will fall for it.
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JohnOneillsMemory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-06-05 04:05 PM
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41. Keeping respect for morality is paramount-no murder, no stealing, etc.
The core morality that most Christians embrace is "the strong must protect the weak." Liberals must work with this prime element of American moral politics that fascists have exploited.

'Arm' yourself with Jesus' Beatitudes-"Blessed are the peacemakers" etc.

If we run away from this topic and just let the fascists poison it they way they turned 'liberal' into a swear word, we will end up in camps.

This must be addressed bravely and humanely, allowing 'the other side' to save face and still have faith.
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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-06-05 04:53 PM
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44. The "uninformed",...yes.
Believe me when I tell you that, it is quite easy to drop a seed of truth/information.

I did it.

What we have got to do is reveal this cabal for what they are: betrayers, manipulators and profitteers.

This cabal has taken advantage of every human weakness, and profitted in so doing.

The most repulsive sin is exploiting another's weakness in order to profit yourself.
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Blue_In_AK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-05-05 03:25 PM
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36. The information in Army Manual 33-1
was fascinating. Interesting the ** seems to use ALL those propaganda techniques on US, not the enemy -- or ARE we the enemy? Maybe he thinks so. I was especially interested in the part about "errors," the breaks in the speech, deliberate stammering, etc. etc. It's all so spot-on transparent now.
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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-05-05 07:24 PM
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38. Can we be coherent in identifying the "intentional" manipulative assholes,
,...who have advanced this scheme?

I don't want the names of all those who "associated" with this cabal.

I WANT THE NAMES OF THE CABAL!!!!

Doing some kind of complicated "association" web distracts from the spider,...the "octapus".

Do you have possession of identity of those legs of that spider/octapus?
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JohnOneillsMemory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-06-05 04:17 PM
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42. Wayne Madsen just did it in this amazing expose-'The Christian Mafia.'
What we're talking about is Dominionism, the alliance of The Chosen Few-types with The Master Race-types using propaganda to create a brownshirt movement and take over the US government.

Here are two good articles by Katherine Yurica and Wayne Madsen:

Katherine Yurica's is a good primer:

http://www.axisoflogic.com/cgi-bin/exec/view.pl?archive=43&num=5160
(The Despoiling of America: How George W. Bush became the head of the new American Dominionist Church/State)


>snip<

This article is the documented story of how a political religious movement called Dominionism gained control of the Republican Party, then took over Congress, then took over the White House, and now is sealing the conversion of America to a theocracy by taking over the American Judiciary. It’s the story of why and how "the wrath of God Almighty" will be unleashed against the middle class, against the poor, and against the elderly and sick of this nation by George W. Bush and his army of Republican Dominionist "rulers."

>snip<

This is an incredibly comprehensive history by Wayne Madsen:

http://www.insider-magazine.com/ChristianMafia.htm
(Expose: The Christian Mafia)

>snip<

I can now report on a criminal conspiracy so vast and monstrous it defies imagination. Using “Christian” groups as tax-exempt and cleverly camouflaged covers, wealthy right-wing businessmen and “clergy” have now assumed firm control over the biggest prize of all – the government of the United States of America. First, some housekeeping is in order. My use of the term “Christian” is merely to clearly identify the criminal conspirators who have chosen to misuse their self-avowed devotion to Jesus Christ to advance a very un-Christian agenda. The term “Christian Mafia” is what several Washington politicians have termed the major conspirators and it is not intended to debase Christians or infer that they are criminals . I will also use the term Nazi – not for shock value – but to properly tag the political affiliations of the early founders of the so-called “Christian” power cult called the Fellowship. The most important element of this story is that a destructive religious movement has now achieved almost total control over the machinery of government of the United States – its executive, its legislature, several state governments, and soon, the federal judiciary, including the U.S. Supreme Court.

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so much more...
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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-06-05 05:05 PM
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45. "Memory",...the neoCONspirators are in charge. They are the enemy.
These are simply one of the cultists they have wielded to exact their power. They DEPEND on the most radical elements to concentrate their power.

Nevertheless, our focus must be upon revealing the neoCONspirators who are far more polished and hold far more power than Hitler.

The neoCONspirators have wielded the weapon of religion, as you proposed in your original post.

Are they "adherents" to any particular religious group? I doubt it. But, even if they are,...WHO CARES? They are still wielding POWER. They are our common enemy against democracy and open governance and human hope.

I really no longer give a damn about the "fringe" associations. I want to expose this destructive leadership which is GROWING EXTREMISM in order to expand their own souless, immoral, anti-humanity power.
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JohnOneillsMemory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-06-05 05:59 PM
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47. Karl Rove's early career is in that long Madsen piece. Lots of Bush**s,..
We're suffering the result of the last 30 years of neocon manuevering.

If you want to focus on those specific PNAC bastards, the BBC documentary about them called 'The Power of Nightmares' is a good place to work from. They are same few bastards who stoked the Cold War to keep it from degenerating into peace and now they are doing the same thing by creating the 'war on terror.' Europe gets this but not Americans.

This 3 hour documentary was shown in the UK in October 2004 and created a firestorm of outrage which is still burning. You can see video streaming at www.informationclearinghouse.org or read a transcript at this Belgian website: http://www.silt3.com/index.php?id=573

My girlfriend's aunt once told her that "if the world were to tip and drop about 11 nasty men off of it, we would be well on our way to peace."

Those '11 nasty men' are the neocons. Thanks for keeping your eye on the ball.
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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-06-05 09:09 PM
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48. Thank you for the documentary. The 11 nasty men comment was great!
n/t
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JohnOneillsMemory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-07-05 12:27 AM
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49. oops. s/b www.informationclearinghouse.COM....not org....CHECK THIS OUT>
Edited on Mon Feb-07-05 12:30 AM by JohnOneillsMemory
That site has the video and transcript of ex-CIA Angola Station Chief John Stockwell describing how the CIA destabilizes dozens of countries, kills thousands, and gives torture training around the world.

He worked under George H.W. Bush in the 1970s and quit in disgust. Stockwell gives a speech here in 1987 and warns of what is now the Patriot Act, torture, disappearing citizens, concentration camps, pre-emptive wars, all that has come to pass. And we were warned by him 18 years ago and he was probably called an alarmist and conspiracy theorist.

If you know anyone who still believes the US gov't. is 'better' than Saddam or Milosevic or Hitler, send them to this:
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article4068.htm
(America's Third World War: How 6 Million People Were Killed in Secret CIA Wars Against Third World Countries)

Definitely sign up for the site's daily news links and support with cash if you can. This is one helluva site.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-07-05 01:19 AM
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54. I love the website
infoclearing house. Very nice. :) I use it a lot for references with movies.
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JohnOneillsMemory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-07-05 03:22 PM
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55. Kicking again. Free-lancing give me too much time to do this lately..
The science/art of propaganda must stay on the front burner at DU so we all know how it works against us.
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nomatrix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-07-05 05:04 PM
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56. JohnO'neillsMemory
I caught just a brief flash of Barbara Bodine on CNN yesterday. 1st time I'd seen her name mentioned. Do you know how she made it to MSM last week?
It might help, (for those who don't know) your namesakes history with this individual during the USS Cole investigation. I think it fits in with your topic.
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JohnOneillsMemory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-07-05 09:28 PM
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57. Woa. Bodine stopped FBI John O'Neill from finding al-Queda in Yemen...
...after the USS Cole was bombed in port.

And now she's going to run the equivalent of the School of the Americas for the middle east in Dubai after being what looks like the CIA's leading public official in that region. This is slated to open in March, 2005. Hello, permanent occupation!

http://www.ksg.harvard.edu/press/press%20releases/2004/dubai_bodine_121404.htm
12/14/2004
Former Ambassador to Lead New Kennedy School Effort
to Promote Governance in the Middle East

Will Assist the New Dubai School of Government

Cambridge, MA — Former U.S. Ambassador to Yemen Barbara Bodine will become the first Executive Director of the new Middle Eastern Governance Initiative at the Belfer Center for Science and International Affairs at Harvard’s John F. Kennedy School of Government. This effort will seek to promote improved governance in the Middle East, and its primary focus will be to assist the government of Dubai in creating a new Dubai School of Government to promote training and research in governance issues in the Middle East region.

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Ambassador Bodine spent her 30-year diplomatic life primarily in the Middle East and the Arabian Peninsula, including tours as Deputy Principal Officer in Baghdad 1980-1983 and Deputy Chief of Mission in Kuwait during the Iraqi invasion and occupation in 1990. In 2003 Ambassador Bodine was appointed coordinator for post-conflict reconstruction for Baghdad and the central regions of Iraq.

In addition to a number of other assignments at the State Department, from 1991 through 1994 Ms. Bodine served as Associate Coordinator for Operations and subsequently acting overall Coordinator for Counterterrorism, Dean of the School of Professional Studies at the Foreign Service Institute and Director of East African Affairs. Most recently, she served as Senior Advisor for International Security Negotiations in the Bureau of Political-Military Affairs.

The Middle Eastern Governance Initiative will begin its on-site work in Dubai in March 2005, when Kennedy School professor Viktor Mayer-Schoenberger will conduct a course on e-government at DSG.
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