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jfern Donating Member (394 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-03-05 06:48 PM
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Bayh 2008?
He doesn't seem so bad after voting against Condi and Gonzales.
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BayCityProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-03-05 06:49 PM
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1. Honestly
I don't care for him but I will take any dem that can win at this point. I believe he is pro-choice as well. I don't know where he stands on other issues.
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Dickie Flatt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-03-05 06:53 PM
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2. Well, for one thing
He's open to a Hate Amendment.
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BayCityProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-03-05 06:57 PM
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3. Then that rules him out for me
I am gay and will stop voting Dem the day they condone gay bashing.
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Telly Savalas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-03-05 07:33 PM
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8. Moi aussi
I am straight and will stop voting Dem the day they condone gay bashing.

If we can't do any better than Evan Bayh, then maybe we should give up politics and convert the Democratic Party in a nationwide lawn bowling club or something.
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moggie12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-03-05 07:18 PM
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6. Are you sure?
I've read a lot about him and that was never mentioned. Is there somewhere you can point me to that describes what he said/did? Thanks ....otherwise I think he'd potentially be a good candidate....
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Dickie Flatt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-03-05 08:19 PM
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12. Here you go
Edited on Thu Feb-03-05 08:19 PM by Dickie Flatt
"I do not support same-sex marriage. I think marriage should be between one man and one woman. ... If the Supreme Court ever strikes down the state or national laws prohibiting same-sex marriage, then I believe that a Constitutional amendment should be considered."

From this.
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moggie12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-03-05 08:55 PM
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13. I'll be darned.
Well, that's that. Too bad, because I really liked him otherwise. Used to live in Louisville and see him on TV all the time.
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Hippo_Tron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-03-05 09:50 PM
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16. Self delete n/t
Edited on Thu Feb-03-05 09:51 PM by Hippo_Tron
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Hippo_Tron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-03-05 09:51 PM
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17. Self Delete AGAIN, I keep screwing this up
Edited on Thu Feb-03-05 09:51 PM by Hippo_Tron
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genius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-03-05 07:00 PM
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4. After Boxer, he's tied with Kerry and Akaka for the best voting record.
of 2005. That may change.

http://patrickhenrythinktank.org/sen-scores.html

I guess I shouldn't be so critical of Bayh, given how well he's doing this year.
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Hell Hath No Fury Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-03-05 09:41 PM
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15. Uh, that ranking...
is based on some of his votes in just the last month.

The votes over his career are middling at best.

He has a l-o-n-g way to go before he ranks up with Boxer overall.
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genius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-03-05 10:23 PM
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19. That voting record is just for 2005. Maybe he's woken up.
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Dickie Flatt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-03-05 07:14 PM
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5. He's moving left to position himself for a Presidential run
Edited on Thu Feb-03-05 07:19 PM by Dickie Flatt
Can we get a real progressive instead of this imposter? Bayh has the right views on some issues but he knows that starting now, job number one is hiding his record.
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genius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-03-05 10:24 PM
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20. If he hasn't changed he'll slip up and his record will show it.
It's good that the voting records are being watched. The ones who are faking it, won't be able to maintain good records.
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-03-05 07:28 PM
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7. No. He's waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay too conservative.
IMCPO
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xkenx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-03-05 07:47 PM
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9. If you want a Repub, don' vote Repub-lite Bayh
Clark '08
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ultraist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-03-05 08:00 PM
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10. Bayh does seem to be pretty conservative
Edited on Thu Feb-03-05 08:00 PM by ultraist
Civil Liberties
2003-2004 On the votes that the American Civil Liberties Union considered to be the most important in 2003-2004, Senator Bayh voted their preferred position 56 percent of the time.

Reproductive Rights
2003 On the votes that the National Abortion Reproductive Rights Action League considered to be the most important in 2003, Senator Bayh voted their preferred position 50 percent of the time.

http://www.vote-smart.org/issue_rating_category.php?can_id=CNIP9107
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lojasmo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-03-05 08:04 PM
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11. I will vote against him in the primaries and the generals. EOM
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Ariana Celeste Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-03-05 09:22 PM
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14. I think he plans to run...
If his primary goal were to be getting re-elected as Ind. Senator, he would have voted "yes" for both Rice and Gonzalez.
Hoosiers (the right-wing ones) are just furious and made comments in the Star along the lines of "Bayh need to realize he is a Senator for a REPUBLICAN state, and he made a big mistake! Blah blah etc, we won't let him win again."
So I think a run for Presidency may be his goal. I don't think he is that bad. And I think, being that he is a little conservative, that he would do a better job getting the central vote. Anywho, I voted for him as my Senator and I would gladly vote him for President.
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Hippo_Tron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-03-05 09:52 PM
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18. Don't you think a DINO who voted against Condi and Gonzales has a motive?
Like I dunno, trying to get Progressives to support his 2008 presidential bid. Bayh is nothing but a stuffed shirt whose never had an original idea in his life. He beats his Repuke opponents in Indiana with his father's legacy and by outspending them. He will NOT get my support in the primaries and although I'm almost always very supportive of the nominee regardless, I will have to take a hard look on whether I would support him as the nominee. Of course, chances are that the GOP will nominate somebody SO bad that I would support Bayh but I'm not 100% sure that will be the case.
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