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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-04-05 01:14 PM
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Ok ok, I see people are slowly getting radicalized
I know this guy, he is one of my play testers. Have known him for years and he drank the kool aid. So yesterday I took him to his car and I had Air America on... so he started asking questions, and wondering what is a neo con? He's heard the term... so I told him what neo cons are and how far they are going to go, heck even took Leo Strauss out, as it were, and explained good ol' Leo to him


He agrees, Bush is NOT a conservative... everything he has done is NOT conservative. Heck he did not even argue when I called El Presidente a Fascist... he actually asked, why is the Democratic Leadership not calling a spade a spade? I patiently explained the same pattern happened in Germany.. in the world of politics they cannot, or think they cannot, say things like this... aka the president is a fascist. Next things I know he will be going over to Rhandhis Web site to get the torture memos and the rest of the crap. Regardless how you put it, he is getting radicalized... and he is one of those folks who is a republican because daddy was one, but now that he has to face medical problems with wife and his job is not secure and all that... folks he is now more than willing to listen to the other side....

I see that process going on all over the place. We were the leading edge, but when people like my friend start to get radicalized and do not rail at the idea of maybe we need to leave social security alone (an item of faith that it has to be privatized) and maybe my party leadership is RADICAL... you know there is something significant going on in this society... my read... the misery index is very close to 70%
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dbt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-04-05 01:18 PM
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1. Try this on him:
How come the supposed Conservative (bu$h) is calling for such LIBERAL reworking of Social Security? And why are the Liberals (Democrats) taking such a CONSERVATIVE approach to the alleged problem?

:evilgrin:
dbt
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-04-05 01:22 PM
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3. Oh trust me I have completely reframed the debate
Reform nope, dismantling of SS.

Main Stream Media, nope, Stenography Corp

Taxes, nope, service fees.

Trial Lawyers, nope, consumer protection lawyers

oh the flp side, Corporate Lawyers.

Clear skies initiateive, nope, Polluting air initiative

Healthy Forests initiative, nope, leave no tree behind initiative

Leave no child behind... nope, public school dismantling.

And so on...

What we need is for people to use these terms and stay on message everywhere
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King Coal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-04-05 01:19 PM
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2. Thanks for posting that. I see some of that happening too.
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