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DemocratSinceBirth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-05-05 09:42 AM Original message |
I Can Defend Ward Churchill's Speech But Not It's Content |
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baldguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-05-05 09:54 AM Response to Original message |
1. "I disapprove of what you say," |
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indigobusiness (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-05-05 10:09 AM Response to Original message |
2. His point was basically about hypocrisy. |
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DemocratSinceBirth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-05-05 10:17 AM Response to Reply #2 |
3. I Was Waiting... |
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indigobusiness (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-05-05 10:22 AM Response to Reply #3 |
4. You are missing his point. |
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DemocratSinceBirth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-05-05 10:25 AM Response to Reply #4 |
6. Then We Should Nuke All Of Afghanistan And Pakistsan Because Then |
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indigobusiness (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-05-05 10:37 AM Response to Reply #6 |
9. Orwell warned us of just this sort of reactionary logic. |
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DemocratSinceBirth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-05-05 10:45 AM Response to Reply #9 |
14. Are You Asserting Your Intellectual Superiority Over Me.... |
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indigobusiness (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-05-05 10:53 AM Response to Reply #14 |
18. Set your ego aside... |
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Zensea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-05-05 10:41 AM Response to Reply #4 |
12. I think his point was even more nuanced than that |
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DemocratSinceBirth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-05-05 10:50 AM Response to Reply #12 |
16. Two Wrongs Don't Make A Right... |
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Zensea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-05-05 10:56 AM Original message |
Does Churchill say 2 wrongs make a right? |
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DemocratSinceBirth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-05-05 11:20 AM Response to Original message |
31. I Was Watching The Rice Debate... |
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Zensea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-05-05 11:56 AM Response to Reply #31 |
40. I read that too, I think it depends how you read this particular sentence |
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DemocratSinceBirth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-05-05 03:02 PM Response to Reply #40 |
59. He's Not Saying Some Amorphous Entity Is Deserving Of A Horrific Death... |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-05-05 03:30 PM Response to Reply #40 |
66. thanks, I liked your memo about this sentence |
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indigobusiness (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-05-05 11:11 AM Response to Reply #12 |
28. That's what I meant. |
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indigobusiness (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-05-05 10:25 AM Response to Reply #3 |
5. Regarding morality |
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DemocratSinceBirth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-05-05 10:27 AM Response to Reply #5 |
7. Pointing Out America's Checkered History Is One Thing... |
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indigobusiness (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-05-05 10:33 AM Response to Reply #7 |
8. It is an ongoing war. |
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NeoTraitors (351 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-05-05 10:40 AM Response to Reply #8 |
10. The right is using |
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DemocratSinceBirth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-05-05 10:43 AM Response to Reply #10 |
13. A Person Has A Right To Hate America |
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ElsewheresDaughter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-05-05 10:54 AM Response to Reply #13 |
19. how do you know "he hates america"...did he say this?..i think NOT |
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DemocratSinceBirth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-05-05 10:57 AM Response to Reply #19 |
23. I Never Said He Hated America |
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NeoTraitors (351 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-05-05 10:56 AM Response to Reply #13 |
20. Democratsincebirth- |
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DemocratSinceBirth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-05-05 10:41 AM Response to Reply #8 |
11. I Have Been Paying Attention... |
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indigobusiness (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-05-05 10:56 AM Response to Reply #11 |
21. You are distorting the content |
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DemocratSinceBirth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-05-05 11:02 AM Response to Reply #21 |
25. Verbatim... |
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indigobusiness (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-05-05 11:09 AM Response to Reply #25 |
26. The tone is repellant, but the content |
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DemocratSinceBirth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-05-05 11:15 AM Response to Reply #26 |
29. At Least We're Making Progress Now.. |
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indigobusiness (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-05-05 11:20 AM Response to Reply #29 |
32. As long as you mix the issues, and inject emotionalism into it... |
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DemocratSinceBirth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-05-05 11:34 AM Response to Reply #32 |
34. You And The Professor Are Hoisted On Your Own Petard... |
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indigobusiness (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-05-05 01:37 PM Response to Reply #34 |
53. Show me one petard I've hoisted myself upon. |
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DemocratSinceBirth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-05-05 02:58 PM Response to Reply #53 |
58. Churchill Was Mixing Issues... |
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janx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-05-05 10:48 AM Response to Original message |
15. Have you read his essay? |
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ElsewheresDaughter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-05-05 10:52 AM Response to Original message |
17. i would like to read his essay before comment anyone got a link? |
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Zensea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-05-05 10:57 AM Response to Reply #17 |
22. Here you go |
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ElsewheresDaughter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-05-05 11:01 AM Response to Reply #22 |
24. thank you..i'll be back later |
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ElsewheresDaughter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-05-05 11:36 AM Response to Reply #24 |
35. just finished reading it - it is a hard swallow, but imho it is TRUTH! |
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DemocratSinceBirth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-05-05 11:42 AM Response to Reply #35 |
36. I Don't Think Dr. King Would Say The 9-11 Victims Had It Coming... |
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ElsewheresDaughter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-05-05 11:45 AM Response to Reply #36 |
37. oh, so, now you are authorized to speak for Dr. King too? |
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DemocratSinceBirth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-05-05 11:51 AM Response to Reply #37 |
39. Is That The Best You Can Do? |
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Zensea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-05-05 12:05 PM Response to Reply #39 |
43. Perhaps there is some confusion about Churchll's meaning of guilt? |
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ElsewheresDaughter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-05-05 12:11 PM Response to Reply #39 |
45. self deleted |
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ElsewheresDaughter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-05-05 12:00 PM Response to Reply #36 |
42. tad defensive aren't we? bush tends to convict himself with his own words |
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DemocratSinceBirth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-05-05 12:05 PM Response to Reply #42 |
44. How Is It Silly |
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ElsewheresDaughter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-05-05 12:14 PM Response to Reply #44 |
46. self delete |
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DemocratSinceBirth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-05-05 03:22 PM Response to Reply #46 |
64. self delete |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-05-05 03:39 PM Response to Reply #35 |
68. yes, it takes wrapping it around your head a few times, doesn't it |
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pretzel4gore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-05-05 11:09 AM Response to Original message |
27. faulty response to a staged event, taken out of context! |
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indigobusiness (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-05-05 11:18 AM Response to Reply #27 |
30. That's an astute analysis. |
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DemocratSinceBirth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-05-05 11:29 AM Response to Reply #30 |
33. Isn't That Another Debate.... |
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pretzel4gore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-05-05 12:00 PM Response to Reply #33 |
41. if the white people would just go home to yourrup |
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indigobusiness (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-05-05 01:43 PM Response to Reply #33 |
55. Being honest and candid will win us friends, and respect. |
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ynksnewyork2 (138 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-05-05 11:46 AM Response to Original message |
38. Anybody else see him on Paula zahn??? |
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AVID (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-05-05 12:15 PM Response to Reply #38 |
48. totally disagree with you |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-05-05 03:22 PM Response to Reply #38 |
63. yes, and for the most part I agree with him |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-05-05 12:14 PM Response to Original message |
47. Deleted message |
ElsewheresDaughter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-05-05 12:21 PM Response to Reply #47 |
50. hope you enjoyed your short visit to DU...ciao |
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robbedvoter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-05-05 12:18 PM Response to Original message |
49. Not worse that Rudy blaming the military for missing explosives, Fallwell |
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ElsewheresDaughter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-05-05 12:29 PM Response to Reply #49 |
51. exactly!..remember who/what/where this all came from...it is putrid crap |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-05-05 12:58 PM Response to Reply #51 |
52. Deleted message |
ElsewheresDaughter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-05-05 01:37 PM Response to Reply #52 |
54. wow ...defender of O'Lielly's talking points still hanging in there |
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DemocratSinceBirth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-05-05 03:05 PM Response to Reply #49 |
60. I'm Not Groveling... |
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tishaLA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-05-05 02:09 PM Response to Original message |
56. Part of the problem is audience, as I see it |
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Hissyspit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-05-05 02:48 PM Response to Reply #56 |
57. Had you given the talk to a 'popular' audience... |
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DemocratSinceBirth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-05-05 03:16 PM Response to Reply #57 |
61. I Am Flummoxed.... |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-05-05 03:21 PM Response to Reply #61 |
62. O'Reilly said this week he got on U of Col. case -that is why they asked |
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DemocratSinceBirth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-05-05 03:27 PM Response to Reply #62 |
65. O'Reilly And Churchill Are Idiots..-Big Time... |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-05-05 03:37 PM Response to Reply #65 |
67. there is another serious issue raised with the entry of O'Reilly into |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-05-05 03:43 PM Response to Reply #67 |
69. transcript between Paula Zahn and Churchill from last night. |
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indigobusiness (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-05-05 06:22 PM Response to Reply #69 |
75. She surely was not listening. |
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tishaLA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-05-05 03:51 PM Response to Reply #61 |
70. I believe he is making a justifiable argument |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-05-05 05:28 PM Response to Reply #70 |
71. Deleted message |
DemocratSinceBirth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-05-05 05:44 PM Response to Reply #71 |
74. We Need A Serious Discussion On Terrorism |
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DemocratSinceBirth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-05-05 05:32 PM Response to Reply #70 |
72. Here's The Link... |
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tishaLA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-05-05 05:41 PM Response to Reply #72 |
73. Well, I guess I'll just defend his content then |
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American Tragedy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-06-05 12:08 AM Response to Reply #70 |
76. It is part of an essay, haven't you read it? |
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Disturbed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-06-05 12:34 AM Response to Reply #76 |
77. I read his entire rant. |
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DemocratSinceBirth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-06-05 06:40 AM Response to Reply #77 |
78. Res Ipsa Loquitur |
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IrwinDC (16 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-06-05 12:05 PM Response to Original message |
79. Agreed DemocratSinceBirth |
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