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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-05-05 11:27 PM
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Is Bush walking on quicksand ...?
....with his attempt to hoodwink people into believing SS is in a "crisis" and something needs to be done immediately? How long before he starts to backtrack? When he sees a half-dozen Repubs refuse to go along with him?

Or is this all a pre-conceived sham to divert people's attention away from the elections in Iraq and the violent changes that are sure to come in the days and weeks ahead? Has he over-stepped on the Social Security Destruction Act he is now pushing in several states?

Is he smart enough to back track and not go any further into the quicksand? Or will he continue on until he sinks right up his little monkey eyeballs..??
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coloradodem2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-05-05 11:29 PM
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1. He's going to get away with it. Just like everything else.
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SnoopDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-05-05 11:39 PM
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8. No he will not get away with it....
With Iraq, we - no, repuks, were not affected directly. (Although our tax dollars are being pissed away when they could be use here to help US).

No, with Social Security, even repuks are affected. I think they have mothers, fathers, grand mothers and grand fathers just like us. When it hits home, they too will see that their fuhrer is stepping on their livelihood as well.

As many have suggested, the SS con game is a diversion. If they get away with it so much the better for them...

But the diversion is from Iraq, the budget that is screwing we the citizenship, the screw up of our nation, on and on and on. (You know 'the worst president ever' kind of stuff).
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-05-05 11:39 PM
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9. This is his apex. Nothing lasts forever. This is propelled by 911 and
the desire to support a "war time" president. He's only got one truly committed group, the neocon/evangelical crew. After that, everything is up for grabs. The traditional conservative wing of the party hates him, with a passion.

Paul Craig Roberts (traditional conservative heavy hitter: "After listening to his inaugural speech, anyone who thinks President Bush and his handlers are sane needs to visit a psychiatrist. The hubris-filled megalomaniac in the Oval Office has promised the world war without end.

Bush’s crazy talk has even upset rah-rah Republicans. One Republican called Bush’s speech "God-drenched." It has begun to dawn on the formerly Grand Old Party that a bloodless coup has occurred and that Republicans have lost their party to Jacobins, who cloak themselves under the term "neoconservatives."

http://www.lewrockwell.com/roberts/roberts91.html

There will be a civil war in the Republican Party, the Democrats are united against Bush, we're about to have freed Iraq in order for it to unite with Iran, and AARP finally got the memo from its members and is all-out against SS privatization.

There will be an awful price to pay for any number of mistakes coming to fruition.

Another good omen is the hubris of Arnold of CA taking on the California Teachers Association. He will find out what it's like to live in a really vicious political neighborhood when they're through with him. Watch for the Mapplethorpe pictures or some other Arnold porn to suddenly appear out of nowhere.

They're going down and they're going down hard.

Be of good cheer.
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senseandsensibility Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-05-05 11:31 PM
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2. I think the thing we need to realize about *
is that he really is a puppet, regardless of what some ass kissing journalists are saying about him lately. He really is. So speculating about whether HE'S smart enough is useless. Are they (the regime) smart enough? I don't know. I do know that whatever they do, no matter how $##@@**## ' ed up it is, the media will portray it as steadfast and moral.:puke:
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-05-05 11:35 PM
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4. Just like they were writing
it themselves.

I hope it's their fucking Waterloo!
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cidliz2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-06-05 12:52 AM
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16. I've been saying that since before Bush was selected....Bush is a Puppet!
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-05-05 11:33 PM
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3. Oh, please GOD that he is!
I hope the snake-oil catches up to him. I know there are lots of people who are awfully uneasy about this attempt to monkey with the system. We need to be nice and helpful and sweetly remind them that THIS guy, who wants to "fix" the system, is the same guy who came in with a surplus to work with and blew it all, and overspent us into a ditch. And THIS is also the same guy who ran three consecutive TEXAS OIL COMPANIES straight over a cliff. And THIS is the guy we want "fixing" Social Security? How high a cliff do you have in mind this time?
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Liberty Belle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-05-05 11:36 PM
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5. Here's what's being rammed through while we're all diverted
over Social Security:

S.5, a bill that would severely restrict consumers' rights to sue corporations, has just been approved by committee and will come up any day now for a vote in the full Senate.

In other words, our last protection against the greedy corporations running our country now are about to get taken away. If a hospital screws up and turns you into a vegetable, or your car explodes because the manufacturer cut corners on cost, or a local industrial plant turns your neighbhorhood into a toxic waste dump, tough luck.

After this passes, companies can loot and pollute as they please with little fear of class action lawsuits.


Please call your Senators and urge them to defeat this dangerous legislation.
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skylarmae Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-05-05 11:36 PM
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6. I can't believe the people are falling for this at all
again, georgie porgie and his band of misleaders are hard at work and it seems, at least for now, that the masses are falling for the same old rhetoric. Ohohohoh, trouble trouble trouble now now now!

What's it going to take for these kool-aid drinkers to finally get this guy's lying number. It's like he has a spell on them, kinda like Charles Manson had on the Family. How can so many be so naive.
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-05-05 11:38 PM
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7. Delay is the main thing keeping this gang afloat.
He still holds party purse strings, and he's still able to bully the GOP Congress into anything Asshole wants.

Get rid of Delay and Asshole will sink like a stone.
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The Zanti Regent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-05-05 11:40 PM
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10. It does NOT matter what he does because the Nazi Press will cover.
They will blame everything wrong on Bill Clinton's Penis and they will get away with it
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NVMojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-05-05 11:45 PM
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11. one can only hope so!!!
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-05-05 11:52 PM
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12. bob brinker today said bush`s plan was bullshit
bob brought up other examples of changing the formula and plans. he said the most important thing to do is to reduce the debt,which means pay as you go,restore tax cuts,and investment in job creation.
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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-06-05 12:16 AM
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13. It's NOT a diversion. He wants Social Security dead. (nt)
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pdurod1 Donating Member (328 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-06-05 01:24 AM
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18. I Agree,
The neocons want the money for the military-industrial complex. SS is the biggest or one of the biggest obstacles in the way.

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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-06-05 12:25 AM
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14. I thought he "over reached" when he annointed himself P-Resident...
and every step of the way since. I think we've always underestimated his power because he gets it from the "shadow government" of RW Think Tanks and Corporate Interests. Now he has it all. I guess we have to hope that SS will be the final over reach by the "shadow government" but I would be too sure. There's always Iran and Syria.
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-06-05 12:43 AM
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15. China and Russia...
will be the Bush Junta's fall from power.
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Blue_In_AK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-06-05 01:03 AM
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17. I firmly believe the SS thing is a smokescreen
to divert everyone's attention from the war and other scandals. He's gotta know it's not going to fly, even in his own party.
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