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McKenzie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-06-05 04:05 AM
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"The defiant UN starts fightback"
Difficult to tell exactly what is happening in gepolitics; spin, half-truths, media bias and so on all throw up a fog. However, there are subtle signs that nations are forming alliances to counter the neocon world view. The recent announcement of joint Chinese-Russian military exercises, China's recent trade deal with Venezuela, co-operation with Iran over satellite launches to name but three such developments. Now it seems the UN has sniffed the wind and sussed that the climate is right to reinvigorate itself.

Maybe, just maybe, the world is waking up to the danger posed by the current US administration and the UN feels it can capitalise on the disaffection.

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It is a sign of the frustration of the UN's right-wing critics that their best response to the investigation is to suggest that, as a supporter of the UN's humanitarian goals through America's UN Association, Volcker is tarnished. Instead, the ongoing UN investigation - despite five separate congressional probes - seems to have given it a bullish new confidence.

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http://observer.guardian.co.uk/international/story/0,6903,1406862,00.html

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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-06-05 04:24 AM
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1. Naturally, Bush's unilateral actions against others
are causing reactions against America. The neocon foreign policy will come back to bite our children and grandchildren. How sad for our country. We could be such a great country.

Did anyone see "Control Room," the film about Al Jazeera? In it, the reporters for Al Jazeera predict that Bush's actions in Iraq will harm the U.S. in the future. I recommend seeing that film if you haven't already.
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Wapsie B Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-06-05 04:39 AM
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5. The whole Iraq debacle
will do great harm to the U.S., not make us safer. The rest of the world isn't going to take this shit much longer. Just remember, chimpy's doing a whole lot of deficit spending in running this little Iraq invasion. Somebody's gotta buy those bonds to make the whole thing keep turning. Foreign countries own so much U.S. debt right now they could cripple us big time. It will not be pretty if and when the EU, China and Russia decide enough's enough.
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Val Donating Member (60 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-06-05 04:29 AM
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2. UN defiantly defends looting food for poor funds
Men of power, wealth and influence in the UN, stealing food money from starving people in Iraq...it's defendable...discuss.
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thebigidea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-06-05 04:34 AM
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3. 'spose you don't want to discuss the Americans involved in that scam, eh?
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Val Donating Member (60 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-06-05 04:38 AM
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4. A Pox on all involved...'Mericans too...n/t
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McKenzie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-06-05 04:52 AM
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6. talking of wealth and influence as regards poverty
http://costofwar.com/

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"Every gun that is made, every warship launched, every rocket fired, signifies in the final sense a theft from those who hunger and are not fed, those who are cold and are not clothed."

President Dwight D. Eisenhower
April 16, 1953
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Val Donating Member (60 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-06-05 05:16 AM
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10. Multiple subjects in your post?
War bad...peace good.
Greed bad...giving good.
America bad...UN and all others good.

Baby Blue Helmet Military good/effective protecting and helping nations/peoples?

US Military bad/ineffective doing same?
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gumby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-06-05 04:56 AM
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7. fascism can only be fought from without.
I've said it before.

The "other" countries of this world are not going to let the Bush fascism stand.

They are getting their ducks in a row. It's going to be financial. The other countries couldn't do it instantaneously because a swift move would have hurt their economic interests.

They are moving to consolidate a economic world-wide movement that isolates the US.

Bush's military attempts to take over the world will only prove to be a financial debacle comparable to the fall of the Soviet Union.

So goes Afghanistan, so goes Empire.
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Chipper Chat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-06-05 05:14 AM
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8. Will we see revolution in 2008 when our citizens are starving?
Will we break into 5 or 6 provinces like the Soviet Union did? Will Jeb only be able to be president of Florida, Alabama, Georgia & Mississippi? Will the northern border states align themselves with Canada? Food for thought.
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BanzaiBonnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-06-05 05:16 AM
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9. What a legacy Bush will leave


I knew this would be coming. Bush will go down in the history books. For being the worst president in US history. A total F***up. IF it wasn't our great country and the future of our children and grandchildren that he has used as his personal playground, I'd almost feel sorry for him... uh, NOT.
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