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NVMojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-06-05 09:32 PM
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New Republic Writer Calls For Anti-Bush Left-Wingers To Be Killed
how serious is this idiot????

February 3, 2005

The words "libelous" and 'the New Republic" have a proud history of walking arm-in-arm. Now, in the esteemed tradition of Stephen Glass, The New Republic has stooped to a new low, publishing a piece that calls for violence, torture, and even death for leading leftists who dare oppose Bush's war on terror and the slaughter in Iraq.

Author Tom Frank -- clearly from the Glass School of Journalism the New Republic has made famous -- described sitting in on an anti-war panel sponsored by the International Socialist Organization, the Washington Peace Center, the DC Anti-War Network and other groups.

After having heard the 100 plus attendees cheer sentiments like "Money for Jobs and Education Not For War and Occupation," Frank became so riled up, he unloaded a deranged harangue about the suffering he would like to rain upon people daring to organize against this war. After Stan Goff, a former Delta Forces soldier and current organizer for Military Families Speak Out, expressed sentiments like "We ain't never resolved nothing through an election," Frank's jag began. Clearly too doughy to do it himself, Frank started to fantasize about a Teutonic strongman who could shut Goff up.

Frank writes, "What I needed was a Republican like Arnold who would walk up to and punch him in the face."

As the panel continued, every cheer and standing ovation seemed to set Frank deeper down a path of psychosis. After International Socialist Review editorial board member Sherry Wolf asserted that Iraqis had a "right" to rebel against occupation, Frank upped the ante in his efforts to intimidate anyone considering entry into the anti-war movement.

He wrote, 'these weren't harmless lefties. I didn't want Nancy Pelosi talking sense to them; I wanted John Ashcroft to come busting through the wall with a submachine gun to round everyone up for an immediate trip to Gitmo, with Charles Graner on hand for interrogation."

more...


http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/february2005/030205tobekilled.htm
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Celeborn Skywalker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-06-05 09:36 PM
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1. Didn't New Republic
Edited on Sun Feb-06-05 09:37 PM by jaredh
use to be a lefty magazine, or am I confusing it with something else?
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NVMojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-06-05 09:37 PM
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2. I don't know but I do know that some of the radical freepers in my area
treat it like it is their bible for political platforms...
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realisticphish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-06-05 09:43 PM
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10. you're probably thinking of the nation nt
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-06-05 09:43 PM
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11. Once upon a time...
I think the rightward slide began about 1990 with a change of ownership or management.
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charlie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-06-05 09:53 PM
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18. Barnes and Krauthammer
were part of their editorial staff in the 80s. The slide was in full motion during the Reagan years.
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-06-05 10:16 PM
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21. I was thinking that, but I hedged.
Too, uh, conservative, if you'll pardon the phrase.
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Jazzgirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-06-05 09:45 PM
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15. It used to be a darned site more liberal!
I actually used to subscribe to it but no more!! They have pissed me off with their right wing crap that there is no way I would ever pay another subscription fee to those jerks ever! Grrrr...... :mad: :spank:
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-06-05 11:45 PM
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31. A friend of mine made a good point
she said "what's the difference between them and the extremist muslims?" Answer: nothing. It is scary how similiar they are.
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NVMojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-07-05 01:20 AM
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39. then that would make them potential "terrorists", correct?
According to asscrack and friends, that is...
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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-07-05 10:23 AM
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50. Where's Agent Mike when he's really needed?
:shrug:
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cosmicdot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-06-05 09:51 PM
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17. a former editor-in-chief: Andrew Sullivan ... fwiw ... n/m
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bear425 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-06-05 11:02 PM
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26. See my post #25. I think I'm correct about TNR. n/t
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-07-05 12:00 AM
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33. Al Franken does an ad for "New Republic" on "Air America Radio" nt
nt
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ourbluenation Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-07-05 12:01 PM
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54. I don't think so - Al Franken
does an add for the weekly standard on Air America...
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Tigress DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-07-05 12:18 AM
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34. Here's a thread that makes this guy look even more scary...
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=1568728&mesg_id=1573148

The GOP is trying to slip in the old Patriot Act verbage again... make the Sec of Homeland Security "God" as in above "all laws".

We've got a email campaign going and sample letters on the thread to send to DEMS or repubs to get the Wording of section 102 tightened up so it does not supercede all Constitutional protocol and our bill of rights.

Section 102 is so LOOSELY WORDED, that combined with Mr. Righty's attitudes against lefties and the memo Gonzales wrote, we could be looking at prison camps for DEMS. I'm not saying that's their plan, but if they wanted to, with this resolution in place they could.

http://www.mensnewsdaily.com/archive/newswire/news2005 /...

<<Snip>>
"But -- most overlooked -- is Section 102 of this bill. It would empower the Secretary of Homeland Security to suspend any and all laws in order to ensure the "expeditious" construction of a set of barriers and roads south of San Diego, to keep illegal immigrants out. It also would prohibit ANY judicial review of the Secretary of Homeland Security's decision to suspend any law.

EDIT: While the law the bill references mentions barriers and roads "near San Diego," it does not appear to be (technically speaking) limited to that area -- but to any barriers or roads "in the vicinity of the United States border."

Wanna look up your State representatives?

http://democrats.house.gov/state_by_state

Send your house rep an email?

http://www.house.gov/writerep

Impeach Bush & Chenney?

http://www.votetoimpeach.org
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Tigress DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-07-05 01:44 AM
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42. Help me keep the GOP from making the Sec of Homeland Security "God"
See above thread and send an email to someone in the house of reps or your senator by Wednesday.

This is critical - killing the Constitution type shit.

Oh and drop in and vote to impeach Bush and Chenney while your at it!
http://www.votetoimpeach.org

Main DU thread for this has over 100 posts --- kick it if you can!

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=132&topic_id=1568728
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Tess49 Donating Member (606 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-06-05 09:38 PM
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3. Good grief!
We need to send this article to Rummie. Tom Frank sounds like a terrorist. Think Rummie or Homeland will protect us? When hell freezes over, maybe?
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NVMojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-06-05 09:54 PM
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19. maybe we should send it to Reid's communication war room??
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Tigress DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-07-05 12:20 AM
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35. What's that?
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NVMojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-07-05 01:22 AM
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40. it was his media communications center he set up right after making
Minority Leader ...
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Tigress DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-07-05 01:41 AM
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41. cool - is there a URL?
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NVMojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-07-05 01:56 AM
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43. Tigress, here is the story about his war room ....
http://www.reviewjournal.com/lvrj_home/2004/Nov-30-Tue-2004/news/25371885.html

but you can send communications to him and them, the media reps working for him, via this:

http://reid.senate.gov/email_form.cfm

I sent this article to him via this form and expressed concern about the "terrorism" being unleashed by right wing folks like this guy...

the war room is the one breaking the news about the media hacks getting paid by the white house and other REid stuff ...
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Tigress DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-07-05 02:36 AM
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45. Thanks - Added to my Favorites!!!
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Wilber_Stool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-06-05 09:40 PM
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4. Bring 'em on!.........n/t
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OffWithTheirHeads Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-06-05 11:05 PM
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27. You betcha!
they can take my gun away...barrel first!
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kikiek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-06-05 09:40 PM
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5. But dare to compare them to the Nazi's. Saw a bumper sticker today
that said It's a shame ignorance isn't extremely painful. Of course they had a Bush sticker on the truck too. Many of them are pretty damn sick. Not to mention they'd be the ones writhering around in pain.
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Tigress DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-07-05 12:21 AM
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36. Wouldn't it have been a riot if God granted that driver their wish?
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JNelson6563 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-07-05 10:07 AM
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47. They should be careful what they wish for...
heh heh
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BamaLefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-06-05 09:40 PM
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6. I Bet He Believes This
Seriously...

Ooh I'm so fricking scared! Bring it on mofo! :nuke: :smoke: :nuke:
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Why Syzygy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-06-05 09:41 PM
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7. lol! .. sorry had to laugh at
I wanted John Ashcroft to come busting through the wall with a submachine gun to round everyone up for an immediate trip to Gitmo, with Charles Graner on hand for interrogation."

Their hair is on fire and they don't know what to do.

Submachine guns .. yeah, that's the solution.
"Let the Eagle Soar!"

Sheebus.
Nutcracks.
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wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-06-05 09:42 PM
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8. "just forgot to break his Prozac in half that morning"
great line! :thumbsup:
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Kerrytravelers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-06-05 09:43 PM
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9. My email to Tom Frank
So, you want to gun down anyone who disagrees with Bush, huh? That's a whole lot of shooting to do, since approximately 56 million of us voted against this man and his wars. Would that include my Vietnam Veteran father, you know, someone who didn't run away but went to war and who now doesn't want another generation to suffer needlessly for lies, just like in Vietnam.

The New Republic never did recover from Stephen Glass, did it?

I'd sign my name, but you might have me shot.
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NVMojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-06-05 10:33 PM
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23. i like it
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Gman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-06-05 09:43 PM
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12. So the guy's a complete wuss. Probably got his ass kicked a lot
in school for talking shit like this. He can't do it his self because he's too scared. What a loser.
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riverwalker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-06-05 09:44 PM
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13. Note the fact
that in his fantasies, it's always someone else rescuing him: Arnold, Ashcroft, Graner (?!. Typical, for these impotent cowards, and their unresolved need for authoritarian daddies to take care of them. No where does he dare imagine personally punching anyone himself, he could get hurt.
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Tux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-06-05 10:21 PM
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22. Well
Maybe he has these fantasies about those guys....
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Downtown Hound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-06-05 09:45 PM
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14. So he wants "a Republican like Arnold"
Edited on Sun Feb-06-05 09:47 PM by Downtown Hound
to walk up and punch a Delta Force soldier in the face? Does he have any idea how well trained Delta Force soldiers are in hand to hand combat? Arnold would be no match for one.

Oh well, why do I even expect logic from losers like these? Hey dickhead, there's 59,000,000 of us and we have the entire world on our side. By all means, start your little war. Let's see how far you get.
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hyperium Donating Member (40 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-06-05 09:48 PM
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16. I'm waiting to see
a memo calling the first amendment "quaint"

:puke:
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jimshoes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-06-05 10:13 PM
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20. tom frank
sounds like a great big pussy to me. Want's someone else to do the dirty work for him. Wuss!
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Guaranteed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-06-05 10:56 PM
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24. Sure no one wants to discuss our anti-gun position? nt
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Colorado Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-06-05 11:48 PM
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32. I'm not as anti-gun as I used to be :) n/t
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bear425 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-06-05 11:01 PM
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25. Peter Beinart is the Editor of TNR and he's
PNAC signer. That says a lot about The New Republic now.
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The Velveteen Ocelot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-06-05 11:32 PM
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28. Didn't he endorse Joe Loserman in the primaries?
TNR majorly sucks these days...
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NVMojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-07-05 01:19 AM
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38. then couldn't one accuse this jerk of terrorism???
if it was a liberal making these statements, the CIA, the HLS jerks, the FBI would be all over it ...
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NVMojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-07-05 10:44 PM
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55. A PNAC signer?? We should have guessed ...that says everything
about the state of this publication today ...
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paineinthearse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-06-05 11:32 PM
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29. Other coverage.....
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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-06-05 11:36 PM
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30. I ask him to come up to me and try it out
He'd be comotose in two seconds.

Bring it.
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manly Donating Member (278 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-07-05 12:45 AM
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37. test
testing, 123
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agincourt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-07-05 02:02 AM
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44. I won't even start about what should be done,
to RW swine posing as journalists. The other thing that's revolting is that stuff posted here by amateurs make national news, and these "professional" media people won't get called on this rat shit.
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regnaD kciN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-07-05 04:10 AM
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46. Is this the same Tom Frank...
...who wrote "What's the Matter with Kansas?"

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charlie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-07-05 10:23 AM
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49. No, not the same guy
The other Tom, who uses the pen name Thomas, still writes for The Baffler as far as I know.

The New Republic ought to tag a clarifying disclaimer to their screechy little bombthrower's articles, a lot of people have confused him with the Kansas guy.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-07-05 10:20 AM
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48. Arnold Schwarzenegger RAN AWAY from his military duty. Goff served in
Delta Forces. Frank wants Arnie to beat Goff up for free speech?

Pretty UN-American, Frank.
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charlie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-07-05 10:28 AM
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51. Haha. No
If Goff had just walked to his end of the table, Frank would've wet himself. It was typical "let's you and him fight" right wing bluster.
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-07-05 11:28 AM
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52. Does anyone know what else Tom Frank writes?
Not trying to defend TNR here, but like Salon they have a mixed bag of writers, and seems to me, this guy comes not from the Lieberman faction, but from the Coulter side of the bin. I may be wrong, but I'd like to know.
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gottaB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-07-05 11:36 AM
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53. He writes satire --n/t
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