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Cary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-08-05 01:57 PM
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Fighting rightist meme that Clinton let the military decline.
Anyone got any links to dispute this?
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shoelace414 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-08-05 01:58 PM
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1. is the military better off today than in 2000?
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shaolinmonkey Donating Member (812 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-08-05 02:01 PM
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2. Dick Cheney contracted (surprise) Halliburton to study
Edited on Tue Feb-08-05 02:02 PM by shaolinmonkey
on how to best downsize the military. Surprise again! Halliburton concluded that their business model was best! Such amazing synergy.

More wonderful Cheney-ness here:

http://www.cbc.ca/fifth/dickcheney/index.html

Edited for spelling.
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Democrats_win Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-08-05 02:10 PM
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4. Franken actually told a repub, Clinton's military did a pretty good job
Edited on Tue Feb-08-05 02:11 PM by Democrats_win
in Afghanistan and Iraq, didn't it? Franken's book "Lying Liars.." has the story. It relates to a Cheney assertion that it takes about 4(?) years to change the military. Also consider how Clinton's prudence was so effective in Yugoslavia.

Interesting that 4 years under our lying bush, the military isn't looking so hot. They'll need a war to prove their worth.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-08-05 03:00 PM
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11. Definietly better back then
Especially with all going on now. Nobody wanting to join up and everything. I remember hearing there was some war thing in Clinton's years and he used hardly any military. What was that event?
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-08-05 02:05 PM
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3. Bush said he had the best trained best equipped army in history and
they "won" the war with it. He had the army bequeathed him by Clinton. Every president has his predecessors army. They were either the "best trained and equipped" or gutted. Can't be both.
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CottonBear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-08-05 02:14 PM
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5. Some repub trotted that one out on Wash. journal
this morning. God, it drives me crazy. They'll bring that up non matter what the topic. Clinton, his policies and The Clenis are to balme for everything! Arghhhhhhhhh!

It's Funny; somehow I remember the 8 years of Clinton as good.
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CottonBear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-08-05 02:14 PM
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6. delete. dupe.
Edited on Tue Feb-08-05 02:14 PM by CottonBear
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wuushew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-08-05 02:31 PM
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7. The actual budget perhaps



Conclusion
Clearly, the spending levels during the Bush Sr. administration remained relatively constant during the Clinton administration, despite the end of both the Gulf War and the Cold War in 1991. The 'gutting of the military' appears to be a gross exaggeration.



http://www.getluky.net/projects/policyresearch/
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-08-05 02:46 PM
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8. "The world's mightiest military" needs more dough?
Yeah, like Donald Trump does.
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PurityOfEssence Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-08-05 02:52 PM
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9. Clinton wasn't building a military for world conquest
The fact that we don't have enough infantry for our wars of domination is because that wasn't our bent before this mob took over.
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Nederland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-08-05 02:58 PM
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10. That's easy
Nothing changes that quickly in the military, so just point out that it was a "Clinton military" that kicked ass in Iraq and Afghanistan.
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DistantWind88 Donating Member (695 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-08-05 03:51 PM
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12. Too bad about that armor thing, though.
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Cary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-08-05 04:11 PM
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13. Except it didn't take them long to armor up,
now did it? Clinton didn't anticipate that Bush would be occupying foreign countries. Did anyone else?

Apparently Bush didn't even anticipate it.
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