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AP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-04 05:38 PM
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Poll question: Why I'm supporting Edwards (repost from sinking thread)
Edited on Wed Jan-21-04 05:44 PM by AP
This is from an exchange earlier, and I didn't want it to slip away without more people seeing it).

economic justice (600 posts)
Wed Jan-21-04 12:18 PM
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37. AP......question

First of all, I am impressed how you are using the "advocacy" program that Edwards has going with his site. Good stuff!

I have been a Clark guy for many months but am having second thoughts due to some of the things that have come out recently concerning his London editorial and appearance before the congressional committee. I am looking at John Edwards and am more impressed each time I look closer. My question to you personally is this --- After looking over the candidates, what two things more than anything persuaded you to join the Edwards campaign? And, did you support anyone else before? I feel kinda guilty wavering on Wes, but these latest revelations were very troubling for me and his responses maybe even more so. Bush has GOT TO GO and I am thinking Edwards just may be the ticket home. Thanks for your time in responding.
 

  AP  (1000+ posts)
Wed Jan-21-04 01:04 PM
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41. Here's my history at DU

I hope this establishes my sincerity:

I hate Bush with a passion. 2000 was very upsetting. I knew from the start that the Democrats were not going to have an easy time winning in 2004 and that it was important to pick the perfect candidate. I knew Gore was a mess because (1) in my eyes, he has little conviction -- I can't tell what his motivating principles are, and (2) on the issue of class, he's terrible.

If you ask me what is the biggest issue in America, I'd say it's so obvious that Bush is creating an America with a permanent underclass and where all the political, economic and cultural power is distributed up an increasingly steep and narrow pyramid which few people at the bottom will ever have a chance to climb. EVERY other issue falls under that umbrella, including war and terror. Those are just tools the Republicans use to get people elected who are down with the power redistribution program.

Because this is what I care about, there are two issues which were more imporant to me than anything. I wouldn't be surpirsed if my first two posts at DU were about these two issues: taxes and race. To me the tax code is the NUMBER ONE TOOL BAR NONE which the Republicans use to transfer power. It's a great tool, because nobody understands it. How many times did I hear Juan Williams on TOTN in 2000 and 2001 outright lie about how the tax code works? In 2000, I saw a survey which suggested Americans did believe that a progressive tax code was the way to go. Yet Bush STILL won -- and it was clear to me, but to few other Americans, that he was going to immediately use the tax code to change America into that tall, steep pyramid. Guess what? He did. That second issue: race. To me the black man and woman are the canaries in the economic coal mine. If America is not working for black America, then the entire middle class is next. Race is an issue I care deeply about. Deeply. (Only more recently, I'm adding a third major concern to my nexus, and that's well paying jobs with a future -- along with taxes, destroying job opportunities is the other way Bush is making sure the people at the top stay at the top).

So, read my early posts at DU. These issues came first for me. More important than the candidate in 2004 were the issues. I always expected I'd have to compromise. And I always knew (and, to a degree still know) that my candidate is going to break my heart, no matter what - win or lose. Nobody is going to be perfect, and politics in the US has a way of destroying things that are good. I'm a realist. I'm a cynic. But I have my issues which mean more than I can say. And I want to win. I want to win because it really really matters.

So, in this climate, I was looking for my candidate. I've heard a few things about a few people. Sometime in, perhaps, Feb 2002 I was watching CSPAN, and there on my TV is John Edwards. I'd heard of him, perhaps at the old MWO discussion boards. One person said he was handsome. Another said he had a big distracting mole on his lip. Another said Gore looked at him. And another said Clinton likes him and he beat Faircloth. So I didn't turn the channel.

What did I see? I see a guy talking to a group of middle class Americans about TAXES. About progressive taxation. And what do I hear? I hear him making an argument, simply that people are UNDERSTANDING. Heads are nodding. What's this? This is a guy explaining one of the most complicate mathematical, poltical, economic, philosophical and important issues of our day, which I've never seen any politician ever communicate well in my life. And people are getting it.

I could go on and list all the things I discovered about him subsequently -- about race, about jobs, about the redistribution of power, about his wife, about his children, his parents, about the things I read in Four Trials, about how he has comported himself as a senator, and as a candidate -- but I've done that many times here. It suffices to say that every new thing I hear about him even more impressive than the previous thing.

So that was my introduction to Edwards.

As for my experience chosing a candidate as it relates to how others go through the same process, I think if you read through what I've written, you can see that there are things in there which make it obvious why Edwards is at the top of my list. I REALLY like Clark and I REALLY like Kerry, and I love Kucinich. I think I could vote for any of them and support them with MORE enthusiasm than I had voting for Clinton.

  But, the route I took to Edwards is way too much a part of me to not give all my energies to arguing his case. If people haven't taken this route, I think it would make sense not to put up the Edwards avatar just yet. Stick with Clark, or Kerry or whomever you like. Keep their avatars up. The important thing right now isn't falling behind a candidate. The imporant thing right now is the discussion. And I think there can be a great, honest discussion about these three candidates. I'll keep making the argument for Edwards, and I really hope that people stick with the candidates they support after taking their unique routes to where they're at, whether it's Edwards or anyone else. Maybe their routes will change (hopefully to Edwards!) Maybe my route will change (hopefully not!). But the journey's the important thing, right?

In any event, one thing I'm very confident about today is that the best candidate is going to come out of this discussion we're all having and will have a great chance of beating Bush.


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JohnLocke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-04 05:39 PM
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1. Great post!
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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-04 05:41 PM
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2. excellent post
:pals: I wish I had you knack for writing...great job.
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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-04 06:12 PM
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9. one more kick
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spooky3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-04 05:45 PM
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3. Beautiful...and all true.
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DjTj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-04 05:45 PM
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4. Great post.
The tax system is also a very very important issue for me and this drew me towards JRE as well.
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Rooktoven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-04 05:46 PM
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5. Well said...
I've liked him ever since I voted for him in the primaries in 98. He showed that year against Faircloth that he could and would fight, and that's why he won.

I saw a fighter, and that's reason number one why I back him.
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Lex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-04 06:13 PM
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10. Me too Rook
Lauch Faircloth is from my home county and he was an embarassment of the highest order. Was so glad that Edwards sent him packing.

Lauch was one of the biggest pushers of Ken Starr's witch hunt against Clinton.



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mlawson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-04 06:18 PM
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11. What about attacks from the helms-faircloth machine?? They didn't
really faze Edwards, did they?? We need someone who can handle the ferocious attacks and slime that will come from the Rove machine this fall. John can do it.

Obviously, there are no skeletons in his closet; faircloth would have found them.
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Lex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-04 06:24 PM
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13. Nope, Edwards turned it around on them!
Remember--Lauch was the Republican incumbent and he thought he could beat Edwards with the "ambulance chaser trial lawyer" snarkiness, but Edwards turned it around on him entirely. He saw it as a chance to say "I represented working families with injured kids against nasty corporations and big uncaring hospitals."

Lauch pulled the ads attacking Edwards for being a trial lawyer because of Edwards' positive response to it.

Word is that those families who were Edwards' clients are waiting in the wings to talk about how Edwards went to bat for them against corporations and HMO hospitals.

Edwards will beat Bush to death with that "ambulance chasing" stuff. He's ready for it.

He's used it to his advantage already.

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kichigai usagi Donating Member (54 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-04 05:49 PM
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6. Dean first, then Edwards...
When i first started checking into the candidates months ago, i was drawn to Dean's message and his honesty. But i also was drawn to Edwards prescence and military records. Since i live in Indiana and have no hope of having any say in the selection of a candidate, i must say that if Dean is not the one, then let us hope it is Edwards!

***Impeach bu$h, before it's too late!***

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spooky3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-04 06:23 PM
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12. Welcome, kichigai usagi!
I am not sure what you mean by Edwards' military records. He did not serve in the military. Do you mean his support of people in the military?

We have several DUers from Indiana and other red states here. It is a good place to come to escape from the redness!
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Lex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-04 05:56 PM
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7. Good lawyers
AP you said:

What did I see? I see a guy talking to a group of middle class Americans about TAXES. About progressive taxation. And what do I hear? I hear him making an argument, simply that people are UNDERSTANDING. Heads are nodding. What's this? This is a guy explaining one of the most complicate mathematical, poltical, economic, philosophical and important issues of our day, which I've never seen any politician ever communicate well in my life. And people are getting it.


My take on this is that one of the strengths of a good litigator like Edwards is that he can take complicated matters and break them down for everyday people to understand. And not in a condescending or wooden way.

That's a talent that is crucial in taking complicated legal cases and talking a jury through all the gobbledee-gook and show them why something works like it does and why it is important.

People have the first instinct to moan about Edwards being a successful trial lawyer, but the truth is he is an incredibly skilled communicator and has a quick and sharp mind. We could use that in the White House for a change.

Peace.

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citizen snips Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-04 05:57 PM
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8. Another great Edwards post.
Thanks AP. :toast:
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AP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-04 10:02 PM
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14. Say hello to my little kizzack!
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