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kerrygoddess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-05 08:33 PM
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Subsidizing Grandpa’s 'Recreational Sex'
Should we be paying for grandpa's viagra...

It appears the new estimate on the Medicare prescription drug bill is causing quite a raucous in the House.

However, it’s not just the Democrats who are in an uproar; there is a stir of dissent among some Republicans as well. Not only has the truth come out about the costs to fund this drug entitlement, but also it seems that our tax dollars will now be used to help fund support for grandpa’s flailing member.

That’s right! If grandpa wants to get it up, you’ll be paying for it. But, remember when you write out check to cover your taxes, to take a moment to remind your young ones to keep there raging hormones in check…

With Medicare spending soaring in the next several years, why, an Iowa congressman wants to know, is the taxpayer helping subsidize Viagra for older men?

http://www.lightupthedarkness.org/blog/default.asp?view=plink&id=347
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Vinnie From Indy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-05 08:41 PM
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1. Maybe that might cause the GOP to lose the "granma" vote.
There are always two side to a coin and maybe the Granmas of the world might vote to restrain the Viagra crazed Grandpas from running amok.
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kerrygoddess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-05 08:46 PM
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2. LOL!
It so poetic... these idiots are waking up and finding out what they voted for. Now if enough of them start getting ticked off...

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jody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-05 08:46 PM
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3. Why do you hate us grandpas? I don't need Viagra but my friends might.
:evilgrin:
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kerrygoddess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-05 08:51 PM
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4. I don't hate grandpa's...
but it seems that atleast one Repub doesn't think we should be paying for their Viagra and I think he's got a point.

They are trying to take birth control pills away from young women but we have to pay for Viagra? Does that make sense?

They promote abstinence to the youth, but the government will subsidize Viagra for any elderly man, married or not?

Double standards!
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marcologico Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-05 08:56 PM
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5. Wonder which one is more likely to vote GOP?
Not it that would ever, ever make any difference.
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jody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-05 08:58 PM
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8. Be careful, you might be 70 or older someday.
Making love is good therapy!
:hippie:
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kerrygoddess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-05 09:22 PM
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14. Never said it wasn't... don't think anyone should have to pay for it
especially if they ain't getting it! LOL! With this everyone will paying for others to have sex? hello!
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Sugarbleus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 07:49 AM
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34. Ooooooookay, "GRANNY" chiming in here now...
Aside from the shameless tittering about elderly people's quality of life, has ANYONE considered the little issue of PHYSICALLY DISABLED adult males who might need some assistance?

My S.O. has been physically handicapped since 1979. His "member" doesn't work. I've NOT been a happy camper, hence you NOW have to pay for MY anti-depressants. :)

I do agree that the double standard is a shame. Women's birthcontrol SHOULD BE COVERED by every insurance policy out there. Viagra(or whatever) perhaps should not be covered unless it is for a legitimate, documented disability related disease or physical handicap...whether young or old. Likewise, a woman's libido enhancing drug should also be covered for the same reasons.
S E X I S H E A L T H Y and still legal.

For most elderly(but maybe not jody) and handicapped persons, sexual activity isn't as frequent as you young cannibals so it's not like they'd be picking up a thirty day supply each month. Those individuals who have the big bucks can surely purchase it on their own. Those who are a little short of cash or on a fixed income can use all the help they can get.

LIGHTEN UP! Granny SB
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-05 09:01 PM
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10. Covered drugs should be necessary drugs.
I resent paying for Viagra for the same reason I'd resent paying for tummy tucks, liposuction, and nose jobs.

Funny, they don't consider birth control pills, which are all that's standing between women and their being worn out at 30 from constant childbearing as worthy of coverage under health plans that have no problem covering unlimited Viagra.

It's obviously men's medicine, men's health insurance, and men's Medicare, and equally obvious that the profit a drug makes is far more important that how necessary it might be to a patient population.
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Haymare22 Donating Member (133 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-05 08:56 PM
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6. If as research is showing.....
...womens sex drive is way low I keep wondering who all these viagra buffs are actually buffing?
WTF.
Where does all the hard work....go?
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kerrygoddess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-05 08:58 PM
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7. Younger women!
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-05 09:02 PM
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11. Hookers and gold diggers
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DebJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-05 08:59 PM
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9. Viagra is not supposed to be used by people with heart problems
and other issues, which means a lot of grandpas shouldn't use it anyway. And if they do, it's not an everyday type of thing. Pay cash? Anyone know the cost?
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-05 09:02 PM
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12. Average is eight bucks a pill, can go up to twelve in some pharmacies
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Digit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-05 09:25 PM
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16. Well, how many boners does a 70 yr old need in a month????
Edited on Wed Feb-09-05 09:27 PM by Digit
Jeeeeeezzzzzzz

Or is it boners do?
Oh crap...How many stiffies are needed by a 70 yr old.
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Vinnie From Indy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-05 09:03 PM
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13. G. A. R. G. L. E.
GrandMas
Against
Randy
Grandpas
Lively
Erections
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kerrygoddess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-05 09:22 PM
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15. ROFLMAO!
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Digit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-05 09:28 PM
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17. Taxpayers could be called "Boner Doners"
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kerrygoddess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-05 09:29 PM
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18. But should we all be donors for other men's boners?
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Digit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-05 09:31 PM
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20. I personally don't condone boner donering.
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kerrygoddess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-05 09:34 PM
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21. It's along the lines of paying for sex
except you don't get to enjoy it. The more I think about this the more wrong it appears. And very funny... they slipped it right in there they did!
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ultraist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-05 09:52 PM
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24. NO! We should not be forced to be BONER DONERS! LMAO
ONLY NECESSARY drugs should be paid for by Medicare.
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Digit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-05 09:30 PM
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19. Maybe George thought the money was going towards the "Election".
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ultraist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-05 10:01 PM
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26. Probably! electile dysfunction is a serious condition
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-05 09:37 PM
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22. A More Rational Compromise Approach
Limit the supply to each soft granpa to one pill a month ....... but include a nice wine and a pack of smokes for afterwards.
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Haymare22 Donating Member (133 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-05 09:41 PM
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23. donors for other bonors....ROFFLMAO nt.
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Vinnie From Indy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-05 09:58 PM
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25. They Should Sell The Idea Like The Space Program
Edited on Wed Feb-09-05 10:01 PM by Vinnie From Indy
The amount spin off industries spawned from enabling "the Greatest Generation" to get freaky deaky will be enormous. The medical industry alone should see a huge increase in all manner of busted hips, heads and backsides. Those guys selling the old people's motor scooters could put out a "muscle" chair with racing stripes to attract the babes at the nursing home.
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Digit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-05 10:06 PM
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27. Pop the ol blue pill and SALUTE!
Okay, you can stop standing at attention....
Okay, this is getting painful, you have outdone your usefulness, I think....
Ring, ring, Dr Doittomeonemoretime? I think the commercial says to call you when this thing goes past 36 hours....I have run out of grannies.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-05 10:13 PM
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28. Well if his social security won't be there for him
then can't we at least let him have a decent recreational sex life?
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liberal43110 Donating Member (687 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-05 10:50 PM
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29. Govt Money Pays for Viagra but not birth control
No inconsistency there.
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kerrygoddess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-05 11:06 PM
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30. Uh huh!
It's man's world!
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no name no slogan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-05 11:19 PM
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31. Same with many 'private' insurance plans
The Mrs. has to pay full price for the Pill, but I can get Viagra if I tell the dock my pecker's kinda pokey.

Nice world we live in.
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kerrygoddess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 12:08 AM
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32. Well... it's not so nice sometimes
But hey as long as we have perky pecker's...
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eridani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 05:16 AM
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33. If we had universal health care--
--it wouldn't be a big deal. Hell, we could have a platinum-plated system with money alloted for cosmetic surgery and a whole lot of extras. Since we don't, let's stick to essentials.


We are already PAYING FOR univesal health care--we just aren't GETTING it! --Dennis Kucinich.
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CWebster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 07:58 AM
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35. I find these erection TV commercials offensive
but notice the religious Right never complains? Yet they advocate abstention for teenagers who are must vulnerable as consumers of the commercial culture and condemn birth control for women.

Underlying it all it is the old man, stiff dick culture.
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proudbluestater Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 08:20 AM
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36. If it's not MEDICALLY necessary, it should be cut pronto.
No pun intended!
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