Just heard the claim of Dems, even Kerry, are backing away from Kennedy

[LittleClarkie]

I'm not seeing it. Does anyone else.

Of course, it might be because Kennedy is coming up for re-election next year that he's being targeted this way. And his war stance. I think it was O'Reilly on the radio (no spin my ass).

Bill was trying to say that Kennedy is finished, irrelevant, that even Kerry was distancing himself.

Where does he get that. I've seen nothing that would support it.

Anyone else see the Dems deserting Kennedy?

[Avalux]

1. Why are you listening to O'Lielly???

Please. Turn it off.

[LittleClarkie]

7. I was listening to Big Ed

when a commercial came on for Mr. No Spin. He was laying it on thick and it made me wonder what his game was.

[Avalux]

12. His game is lies

that's all you need to know.

[merh]

18. I heard O'liely on the radio defending Kennedy today?

He is just a whore, whatever it takes to get viewers. He has no values or ethics.

He said on the radio today that Kennedy was the champion of a clean Hudson River and that basically he did it himself. He said he doesn't agree with everything Kennedy says, but he admires him. :shrug:

[babylonsister]

2. Bill who? Consider sources always!

I don't see it either. I think Kennedy is one of the few voices of reason in a fucked up world.

[caligirl]

3. O'Leily is a f'ing liar all the time 24/7

[joefree1]

4. Stop listening to Faux News

You'll feel better. I promise.

[LittleClarkie]

10. It was the Jones Network. On a commerical break from Ed Schultz

They also have Bill on in the morning. So it was kind of unexpected.

Actually, Kerry and Kennedy just appeared together last week, Kennedy hyping Kerry's next run and Kerry hyping Kennedy's next run. Didn't seem distant at all.

The only think I've seen even close is that they don't completely agree on Iraq. But then they're not joined at the hip and often disagree.

[dweller]

45. now, i listen to Big Eddie and Jones network 5 days a week

for 3 hours straight and 3 hours in the morning with Stephanie Miller, and i've never ever heard a faux noose channel ad.

Not once.

of course i hear a lot of our local am stations local ads during those breaks on Jones Network.

perhaps your carrier is putting on the faux noose ads?

dp

[LittleClarkie]

50. Is it possible for a radio station to be Jones Network only part time?

I'd never even heard O'Reilly on the radio before until I started listening to this station because they have Ed. I'll pop in for a minute in the morning, hear O'Reilly, then pop back out.

Maybe I was assuming it was O'Reilly. Maybe it was Hannity. I can't even tell you the horror when I realized that asshat was on the radio too. Aiiiiaaah. My local Conservative Radio idiot got suspended for a week, and they put Hannity on instead. My local idiot was infinitely more desirable.

Luckily, most of the time, I don't have to listen to any of them. On a good day, I can get Randi to come in too. Oh happy day.

[dweller]

53. mine is Jones 9am-noon, Stephanie Miller

noon-3pm Al Franken AAR, and 3-6pm Big Eddie Schultz, Jones again.

after that local, and perhaps some more AAR later at nite, but i'm not listening then.

I'd be suprised Jones would advertise for O':puke:lly

dp

[candice]

57. Yes, QUAKE (960 AM) in S.F. carries Ed Shultz (Jones) and Air America

[Sanity Claws]

5. nope

I haven't heard anything like that. Do you think O'Lielly could possilby be spinning something? Gee, yes, I do.

[aquart]

6. Pile o' crap.

I assume this is the cover story for stealing the vote in Massachusetts.

[GetTheRightVote]

9. That is probably the reason for it for sure, I love Ted K.

It would be a mistake for the Dems to not stand behind him.
It is a standard Democrat and will be for years to come.

:kick:

[LittleClarkie]

40. I want to be ready if this is a cover for stealing votes

ludicrous as it may sound, I don't put it past them to try anything.

[Cha]

8. o'lielly LIES for

fucking living. Don't fill your pretty head with that JUNK!

[LittleClarkie]

11. I'm just thinkin' we need to give Teddy some lovin'

and make sure they don't try to bump either Kerry or Kennedy out of their seats. I don't trust their Repub Gov.

[Avalux]

16. And why don't you trust them? Because they do shit like this?

Jerry Corsi, the co-author with Swiftee John O'Neill of 'Unfit for Command' is actively considering a run against Sen. Kerry when his term is up.

Corsi is not a Massachusetts native, but says he has already scouted for property to declare his residence there.

http://bradspangler.dailykos.com/story/2005/1/25/5713/01779

[LittleClarkie]

39. Ayep. Corsi -- what a freak

that he even thinks he has a chance in a liberal, Catholic state would be laughable if it wasn't kind of creepy.

Would the people of Mass riot if they tried to steal Kerry's seat, do you think?

I hope they don't have electronic ballots.

[trumad]

13. Well, we should always believe

the National Division Punt champion.

[PROBLEMCHILD]

14. Dean has the party on the move, re-inspired

I don't think Kerry is moving from Kennedy, as much as he will move to Dean.

Kerry in typical fashon will move toward what-ever is popular. If Kerry wants to be taken seriously he will have to be around Dean, and fight to the end,.. and not give up this time

[LittleClarkie]

21. That's just a bit too much Republican talking pointish for me

I don't see Kerry as moving toward what is popular most of the time. In fact, there have been moves he's made that have been distinctly unpopular. He piped up with a speech questioning Affirmative Action that didn't win him any buddies. He targetted a popular Dem in the BCCI investigation that didn't win too many friends.

I think that, as some pundits have said, he is one of the leaders of the party now, and as such is showing unity with the man who may be taking the party in a new direction.

[PROBLEMCHILD]

26. WHAT?????

since when did making a point become a Replican trait?????? It sucks, but Kerry choked, he let the republicans run him into the ground. Kerry said he would fight "untill every vote in counted". So are you satisfied wht the vote?

[LittleClarkie]

31. Who said that making a point was a Republican trait

But saying that Kerry just follows what's popular is to close to the flip/flop meme for me. That's all I was saying. I just don't buy it.

[politicasista]

29. Hey LittleClarkie

Hide me from the Kerry bashers. :scared:

[LittleClarkie]

37. I'm there for ya pal

:pals:

[PROBLEMCHILD]

41. KERRY BASHER ?????????

I couldn't vote for Dean, I had no choice but Kerry, you're right
I'm bashing Kerry after that most impressive showing, what a fighter. Grow some thicker skin...... he caved.

I'm no Kerry "Basher" but thanks for the warm conversation
New to DU, sorry to bother you.

[marcologico]

44. Congratulations, you've learned something already:

LittleClarkie is usually right.

[Guaranteed]

25. I agree. nt

[Pastiche423]

61. I do, as well

[marcologico]

30. Uh, Dean is going to be Kerry's go-to guy, not vice versa. n/t

[marcologico]

32. p.s. that's IF he does his job.

[Guaranteed]

63. Man, Dean has been the PARTY'S go-to guy for the last year and a half.

He is THE guy.

[liberalnurse]

15. What do you think of Kennedy today?

Do you think the Dems are deserting him? Has that thought been on your mind? I ask this because I can't figure out your need to even ask....Is the O'Riley "spot" your only source?

[LittleClarkie]

34. That was the only place I'd heard it. Made me wonder what they're up to

re: Kennedy.

Maybe I'm paranoid, but I don't even feel our "safe" Democrats are safe anymore. Just being alert to a possible meme, and gathering facts to counter it if needed.

Don't wanna lose Teddy.

[Goldeneye]

17. I don't believe it...don't care who said it.

Theres so much shit going around. I'm willing to bet the root source is the gop trying to distract us and make us eat our own.

[marcologico]

19. That'll be the day.

I did notice that Teddy seemed annoyed about the election when he was on Face the Nation a couple of weeks ago, so maybe he and Kerry had a difference over tactics, but Teddy put everything he had into the campaign including his staff so if anybody had a right to be irritated it's him. But he seemed conciliatory on Meet the Press.

[JI7]

20. who cares ?

why take anything from O'Reilly seriously ?

of course his intention is always bad when it comes to Democrats.

[LittleClarkie]

36. We've seen their infinite capacity for lies and the ability to spread them

Never seems to matter if it's the truth or not.

I'm on Rapid Response. We all know the SBVT were bullshit too, but we can't let their lies spread unchecked or they will become conventional wisdom.

If they're going to target Kennedy, I wanna be ready.

[JI7]

42. Kennedy is a safe seat and Kerry won Massachusettes also

if it was in a swing state or Republican state the attacks might be effective.

but the sbv did not hurt Kerry when it came to Massachusettes and other solid Democratic states. and they aren't going to hurt Ted Kennedy either.

[stillcool]

22. Teddy is going to be on Charlie Rose...

for the hour! Now theres something I'll bother watching!

[stillcool]

23. Whoops....its on Tonight!

[marcologico]

27. hey thanks for the heads up n/t

[deadparrot]

24. I thought people in MA elected Kennedy

by huge numbers in the past?

I would think that if he wants it, the job is his.

[Guaranteed]

33. Kennedy's not going anywhere. His seat is one of the safest

in the Senate.

[deadparrot]

38. Good...that's what I thought.

[marcologico]

47. Hell nobody's safe these days.

Kennedy has lots of enemies in MA and his last election was a nail biter.

[Warren DeMontague]

28. O'Reilly Opens Mouth, Stream Of Bullshit Comes Out.

Film at 11.

Rinse. Repeat.

[in_cog_ni_to]

35. I don't buy it.

Wishful thinking on the part of the repukes. Kennedy IS the Dem party. That will NEVER happen. They will never turn their backs on him.

[marcologico]

43. That's why they're called "teasers."

No doubt a little joke like a pic of Kerry backing up in his car.

Or maybe just a lie. Who's going to correct him anyway?

[mountainvue]

46. Ever been to Massachusetts? n/t

[LittleClarkie]

51. Nope

Seems solidly Dem from where I sit in purple Wisconsin.

But how did the Repub Governor thing happen?

[mountainvue]

54. That happened after I left.

Kennedy will have that seat as long as he wants it.

[Geek_Girl]

48. Bill O'Lielly is a looney

I don't see how anyone could listen to him. He's bipolar and a pathological liar.

[BlueInRed]

49. I see just the opposite

It seems to me that more Dems are coalescing around the core Democratic principles and leaders, although not enough yet to stop the GOP.

[independentchristian]

52. What ever happened to people having their own opinion?

I get so sick and tired of people acting like every Democrat is supposed to think exactly alike and say exactly the same thing in the same way.

Some people share Kennedy's viewpoint, some do not, and they don't have to!

I think that "the party should speak with one voice" crap is just a bunch of nonsense!

Be yourself. If you disagree, then so be it.

[leesa]

55. "Even Kerry"?? Why does THAT surprise you?

[LittleClarkie]

56. That was how it was termed in the commercial

and yes, it would surprise me. Because i've seen no evidence of it so far.

And I've studied up on Kerry enough to know he's not that kind of guy.

[cestpaspossible]

58. Kerry: get rid of Mitt and get Teddy reelected

Last Friday
http://www.lightupthedarkness.org/blog/default.asp?view=plink&id=324

[American Tragedy]

59. Um, hasn't Kennedy survived rather worse scandals than this...?

:eyes:

In any case, I find it very, very hard to imagine that his vote against the Iraq fiasco is going to bring him down, in Massachusetts of all places.

[Freddie Stubbs]

60. Is anyoen even running against Kennedy?

He's probably had one competative race in the last 30 years.

[zulchzulu]

62. Actually Kerry agrees with Ted... not sure about setting up a timetable

I hope you took a hot shower after listening to O"Lielly. I usually burn a lot of sage to rid the place of evil spirits if I accidentally listen to him or the others...

Ted will soundly get relected no matter what Mr. Shower Porn thinks.