If Condasleeza lied under oath at 9/11 hearings shouldn't she be

[lonestarnot]

prosecuted for perjury. And if bushitler has helped hide the 8.8 billion missing in Iraq shouldn't he be impeached? And if James Guckert has kiddy porn on his computer shouldn't he be in jail? And what of the American torture and sodomization of a 15 year old Canadian? and if there were 54 confirmed warnings of Al Queda attacks using commercial airlines pre 9/11 and the FAA Terrorist Coordinator had his first day on the job on 9/11, areN'T things getting about ready for a REVOLUTION?

[babylonsister]

1. I am so in agreement! Condi=perjury. But

we already pretty much knew that, and nary a word was spoken during her SofS process. And where are those missing billions? On and on...

[smurfygirl]

2. she wasn't under oath

remember that was the only way Bush would let her testify

[rurallib]

9. Contempt of Congress?? Would that apply??

It would sure be a lovely sight to see her helmet hairdo being hauled in for contempt.

[lonestarnot]

10. Well now that you mention it, I believe I do recall her not being sworn...

just not absolutely positive.

[LittleClarkie]

11. But she WAS under oath at her SOS hearing

wasn't she?

That was my impression. If so, I'm glad Kerry got her on the record as denying all that crap about Iran from the New Yorker article by Hersch.

[FreedomAngel82]

19. And they didn't

keep record of what was said. Of course. :grr: We have to do something about this! It's an outrage and I know I'm so pissed off.

[mountainvue]

26. She was indeed under oath.

http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/04/08/rice.transcript/
WASHINGTON (CNN) -- National security adviser Condoleezza Rice testified Thursday under oath and in public before the independent National Commission on Terrorist Attacks Upon the United States investigating the attacks of September 11, 2001. The White House initially refused to allow Rice's public testimony but reversed its position after pressure from relatives of 9/11 victims, commission members and politicians.

[calimary]

42. Yes, and we should start aggitating for this with our reps.

At least call locally: via www.congress.org - it has a directory of EVERYBODY on the Hill, House and Senate, LOCALLY, regionally, and in DC. Since we don't have that TOLL FREE 800 number anymore, this is how to do it. Call your reps. YES, even if they're in the enemy camp. They need to know the heat's on. Maybe one of them has a sphincter muscle that's starting to act up (or a conscience? Maybe one-and-the-same?!?!)...

LYING UNDER OATH IS LYING UNDER OATH. PERIOD. END OF SENTENCE. IT IS A CRIME. DOESN'T MATTER WHO YOU ARE. IF YOU'VE LIED UNDER OATH, YOU HAVE COMMITTED PERJURY. PERIOD.

[cestpaspossible]

32. Wrong. Bush wouldn't testify under oath, but Rice did.

http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/04/08/rice.transcript/

[Northern Perspective]

45. Actually, her testimony WAS under oath

Transcript of Rice's 9/11 commission statement
Wednesday, May 19, 2004 Posted: 12:25 AM EDT (0425 GMT)


WASHINGTON (CNN) -- National security adviser Condoleezza Rice testified Thursday under oath and in public before the independent National Commission on Terrorist Attacks Upon the United States investigating the attacks of September 11, 2001. The White House initially refused to allow Rice's public testimony but reversed its position after pressure from relatives of 9/11 victims, commission members and politicians.

[GetTheRightVote]

3. I like the ideal of a revolution as well, take to the streets, it would be

great for the people to express themselves as well.

:kick:

[babylonsister]

5. Coordination and logistics are the problem,

but damn! It's been done before, with a lot less tools than we have now.

[journalist3072]

4. Your forget something......

Emperor Bush said the "accountability moment" has passed. He thinks the American people didn't hold him accountable on November 2, and that's the only accountability moment he gets. He thinks he passed it, so that's it.

[Sydnie]

6. He's happy with his "C" grade. n/t

[babylonsister]

7. That's not necessarily 'it'. I'm keeping

my hope alive with all the new revelations daily.

[journalist3072]

8. You and me both!!!!! I'm hoping people will WAKE UP! n/t

[lonestarnot]

15. Thanks for the link! n/t

[babylonsister]

21. What link? nt

[lonestarnot]

29. beats me...don't know how this got here...but thanks anyway....maybe

you're about to give me a link??? LOL

[frankly_fedup2]

27. I'm glad to see that there are some of us that are staying positive

regarding preparing the damage done to this country.

I dread going to bed at night because that makes tomorrow get here sooner. Then, when tomorrow gets here, I am amazed daily by what is going on.

I live in VA (this is nothing in comparison to 9/11 and what is coming out now). They are going to pass a law that if anyone allows their underwear to show (like the girls wear the low-cut jeans and a little bit of their thong will show, or, the boys let the top of their Calvin Cline underwear show) they will be fined $50.

We have churches where a woman is not allowed to wear pants, cut their hair, or wear makeup. So these people were already doing this with their young; however, our legislature feels we need a law with a fine.

Fed up to HERE.

[lonestarnot]

22. "accountability moment" coming...if truth keeps coming...

[journalist3072]

28. I pray so, I really do.

[LiberalFighter]

12. NO

She should be executed for treason!!

[frankly_fedup2]

13. I'm 100% with you brother; however, we have a wee small problem . . .

the government has tanks, all we got is our shotguns.

It'd be like US attacking Iraq again, and again, and again.

Plus, Ms. Rice is in "shock" and "awe" of Bush, and he of her.

After all, already she is getting credit for the middle east peace (which ended yesterday due to a terrorist bombing or something). I don't know.

All I know is I have to keep going to the doc and the docs continue to up my meds. My husband tells me to quit watching, listening, reading. I told him that being ignorant of what is going on does not make it any better. He had never watched the evening news until we got married 14 years ago. He doesn't watch it anymore either. I suppose to him ignorance is bliss. I cannot be ignorant about what is happening to this country.

[lonestarnot]

16. Thanks for the link! n/t

[babylonsister]

30. Is this another one you didn't post? I'm confused.

[merh]

14. Wasn't she under oath during the nomination hearings?

Didn't she lie when she downplayed her knowledge of Al Qeada and the memo when asked about them at her hearing?

[lonestarnot]

18. We're doomed!

[AtLiberty]

17. Is it only a lie if she's under oath?

HELL NO!!!

[havocmom]

25. A lie is always a lie. But if it isn't under oath, it isn't perjury.

The big question is, why would anyone accept testimony that wasn't given under oath? Seems pointless and counterproductive. If certain parties refuse to testify under oath, they are admitting they will not be restrained from lying. They only intend to use the forum to advance their propaganda. Why the hell do people put up with that?

[AwareOne]

20. It is dangerous to talk of revolution

Big brother is watching. Do you all want to share a cell at Gitmo? How about something a little less ambitious, like a nationwide strike?

[lonestarnot]

24. I can speculate about revolution and I can talk of revolution, even teach

about revolution, I just can't incite revolution. I saw a program on PBS or part of it re Mr. Walker, a black man during slavery days. He was a brave soul.

[hector459]

23. When they know up front and plan to lie, they will not go under oath.

Doesn't this tell you Freepers out there that your idols are everything that stands against decency and integrity?

[Muddy Waters Guitar]

31. Yeah, these latest 9/11 disclosures

have been steaming me more than a teapot past boiling point. Over 50 warnings with specific intelligence and they still managed to foul it up like that? Condi Rice strikes me as being even worse than Colin Powell-- probably smart enough to be aware of the utter bungling that her boss has forced on the country, but so unprincipled (or weak) that she just capitulates on all fronts. Lying right-and-left before the 9/11 commission, then lying across the board to sucker us into going into Iraq-- I can't comprehend the amount of damage she's done to the country because of that. This is precisely why Bush is able to wreak so much havoc on the country, he has far too many goose-stepping, facilely-saluting yes-men and yes-women rather than people who will tell him the hard truths. (And if they do reveal the hard truths, they get canned, like Eric Shinseki.)

[Al-CIAda]

33. kick

[Evacuation7]

34. It wasn't perjury.

[Al-CIAda]

35. Lying under oath IS PERGURY. eom

[Padraig18]

36. She wasn't under oath. eom

[Al-CIAda]

37. During the 9-11 comission hearings? Yes she was.

She LIED to congress, she LIED to America, she LIED to the world.

...and we KNOW it.

[Padraig18]

41. No, she wasn't.

Bush would not let her testify, otherwise. Check the record.

[Bridget Burke]

39. It was perjury.

She was under oath. She lied.

Which of these statements do you not believe?

[Bridget Burke]

38. She was, indeed under oath at the 9/11 hearings...

Rice -- whose testimony under oath attracted media coverage from around the world and drew hundreds of onlookers to an overflowing Senate hearing room -- offered a carefully prepared and largely familiar defense of Bush anti-terrorism efforts and chose to focus many of her remarks on the reaction to an unprecedented wave of threat information that flooded the government in the summer of 2001.

www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A62740-2004Apr8.html

But this was forced upon the administration. In February, Rice met privately with the commission for more than four hours. She was not under oath, and there are no transcripts of her session.

www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/03/29/rice.testimony/

Bush, of course, has never testified about 9/11. He met with the Commission in private. Without an oath. Without recordings. While Cheney held his hand....

And of course the whole lot of them should be prosecuted for perjury. And then for treason.

[cthrumatrix]

40. there are 2 sets of rules.... those in power...those not in power

[Al-CIAda]

43. PERGURY!

LYING to the committee
LYING to congress
LYING to the American people
LYING to the world

...under OATH

[me b zola]

46. Demand impeachment

I am.

[Al-CIAda]

47. Get the paperwork started at once! -eom

[CWebster]

44. Thru the looking glass

It can't happen here.

[Al-CIAda]

48. Thom Hartmann just agreed-

Thom Hartmann just agreed-

"This should be the BIGGEST STORY of the past YEAR!"

"Why aren't the Dems and Biden punding the table on this!?"

[Al-CIAda]

49. Biggest...eom

[indepat]

50. None that matters to the faithful

[12345]

51. UNDER OATH?

YES OR NO.
At either the 911 hearing or SOS confirmation hearings?
Maybe we could itemize statements made under oath that would amount to perjury...
Instead of arguing whether or not she perjured herself. Let's figure out when and what was said.
Maybe those who feel that they know whether or not she was under oath could offer evidence to support their claims. I saw one reference to a WP article that she was under oath at the 911 hearing. Well?

[Northern Perspective]

52. Under oath for 9/11 commission testimony

http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/04/08/rice.transcript/