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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 10:18 PM
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Somebody ... Was Condasleeza under oath at 9/11 Committee Hearings?
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bleever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 10:19 PM
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1. I believe so. I thought only * and VP Handupme wouldn't testify
under oath.

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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 10:21 PM
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3. Right there is a story all alone.
A president REFUSES to testify under oath? My loathing knows no limits.
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 10:23 PM
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4. VP handonme dishonorable dick and bushitler were questioned together
and were they under oath?
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bleever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 10:28 PM
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6. No, they were not under oath; that was part of the deal.
But I think if Condi's in front of Congress, or a panel under the aegis of Congress, it's sworn testimony.

Anyone confirm or deny?
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Shredr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 10:33 PM
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9. Right. They "had a nice chat"
Everyone else, I believe, including Condi, was under oath.
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Blower Donating Member (195 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 10:20 PM
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2. UMMM
www.ideamouth.com/politics
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Democrat 4 Ever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 10:26 PM
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5. I don't remember if Condisleeza was under oath but I do know
that King Chimpy and his consort Cheney would not agree to testify unless they could appear together, weren't under oath and had a very limited time frame. And the Committee bought it. Guess they knew they were going to lie and didn't want to get caught in a Catch-22. They knew screwing the economy, taking us into a war, getting kids killed, cutting education, health care, trashing the environment, etc. are all OK as long as you don't lie about it under oath. Today's lesson little kiddies is never give a statement under oath.

If anyone is caught lying under oath in a Commission hearing how serious is that? Is it the same as lying in court, or during a congressional hearing? Just wondering what legal force is backing up a Commission trying to dig out the truth.
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Guaranteed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 10:29 PM
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7. She most DEFINITELY was. nt
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mountainvue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 10:31 PM
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8. She sure was.
http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/04/08/rice.transcript/
WASHINGTON (CNN) -- National security adviser Condoleezza Rice testified Thursday under oath and in public before the independent National Commission on Terrorist Attacks Upon the United States investigating the attacks of September 11, 2001. The White House initially refused to allow Rice's public testimony but reversed its position after pressure from relatives of 9/11 victims, commission members and politicians.

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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 10:36 PM
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10. Oh...Thank you mountainvue!
:hippie: :yourock:
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Sliverofhope Donating Member (858 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 10:41 PM
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11. Then doesn't this mean she lied under oath?
Can we get another story raised in the blogosphere?
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mountainvue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 10:45 PM
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13. You're welcome. I see a glimmer
of hope.:thumbsup:
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 10:50 PM
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14. Hope for what? Hope for a new America or a new lonestar? n/t
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mountainvue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 10:54 PM
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17. Hope, my friend.
Keep hope alive.
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 10:56 PM
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18. Hope sucks...My dog named Hope and she sucks stuffed animals.
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mountainvue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 11:00 PM
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19. I think you've had too many Lone Star's.
Maybe you should get a fish.:P
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-05 09:02 AM
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22. Hope is a good doggie, she just sucks poor thing, couldn't trade her for
a fish! Rarely drink, just weird sense of humor.
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bleever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 10:42 PM
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12. Thanks. n/t
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Imagevision Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 10:52 PM
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15. Does it matter?
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 10:54 PM
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16. Yes it matters!
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mountainvue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 11:02 PM
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20. I think we'll need to go back over her testimony.
Her resignation would certainly be acceptable to me, although it is about three years too late.
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leesa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 11:08 PM
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21. Yes, and she LIED.
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RuleofLaw Donating Member (345 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-05 09:22 AM
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23. Here is part of the official transcript:
HEARING OF THE NATIONAL COMMISSION ON TERRORIST ATTACKS UPON THE
UNITED STATES

WITNESS: DR. CONDOLEEZZA RICE, ASSISTANT TO THE PRESIDENT FOR
NATIONAL SECURITY AFFAIRS CHAIR: THOMAS H. KEAN; VICE CHAIR: LEE
H. HAMILTON

ROOM 216 HART SENATE OFFICE BUILDING, WASHINGTON, D.C.
9:03 A.M. EDT, THURSDAY, APRIL 8, 2004

<Snip>

MR. KEAN: Thank you.

Dr. Rice, would you please rise and raise your right hand? Do
you swear or affirm to tell the truth, the whole truth and
nothing but the truth?

MS. RICE: I do.

http://www.9-11commission.gov/archive/hearing9/9-11Commission_Hearing_2004-04-08.pdf


Here is another interesting exchange from that hearing:

<snip>
(Rice)
I was in a press conference to try and describe the August 6th memo, which I've talked about here in my opening remarks and which I talked about with you in the private session. And I said at one point that this was a historical memo, that it was not based on new threat information, and I said no one could have imagined them taking a plane, slamming it into the Pentagon -- I'm paraphrasing now -- into the World Trade Center, using planes as a missile. As I said to you in the private session, I probably should have said "I" could not have imagined, because within two days, people started to come to me and say, "Oh, but there were these reports in 1998 and 1999, the intelligence community did look at information about this."

To the best of my knowledge, Mr. Chairman, this kind of analysis about the use of airplanes as weapons actually was never briefed to us. I cannot tell you that there might not have been a report here or a report there that reached somebody in our midst. Part of the problem is -- I think Sandy Berger made this point when he was asked the same question -- that you have thousands of pieces of information, car bombs and this method and that method, and you have to depend to a certain degree on the intelligence agencies to sort, to tell you what is actually -- is actually relevant, what is actually based on sound sources, what is speculative. And I can only assume or believe that perhaps the intelligence agencies thought that the sourcing was speculative.

All that I can tell you is that it was not in the August 6th memo, using planes as a weapon, and I do not remember any reports to us, a kind of strategic warning that planes might be used as a weapon. In fact, there were some reports done in '98 and '99. I think I was -- I was certainly not aware of them at the time that I spoke.

MR. KEAN: You didn't see any memos to you or any documents to
you?

MS. RICE: No. No, I did not.



Makes you wonder now about the 52 warnings!
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-05 09:30 AM
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24. Remember Rice testifying there were no warnings re:the Millennium attacks?
Well....



12-Dec-1999 U.S. issues worldwide warning:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/low/world/americas/560856.stm

13-Dec-1999 U.S. Department of State Daily Press Briefing
http://www.globalsecurity.org/intell/library/news/1999/12/991213db-terror.htm

14-Dec-1999 Ressam is caught in Washington state.
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hector459 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-05 09:35 AM
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25. So if you lie and it's not under oath, it's ok?
What does it matter? She lied and lied to get us into war. And now she is the foremost representative of the US to the international community.

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