How will BushCo get rid of the Blogs?

[tridim]

Because I know they are going to try. They're one of the only sources of real information left, and they're run by us lowly commoners. We need to start thinking about this, because it's coming. Probably sooner than later.

[librechik]

1. I have a feeling it may become very very expensive

to run a blog.

[tuvor]

3. Impossible!!!

Nothing stands in the way of...THE BLOG!


http://jade.mcli.dist.maricopa.edu/blogshop/

[librechik]

13. thanks for the giggle

[frankly_fedup2]

5. Well, they didn't complain about it when Drudge came out with

the Clinton and Lewinski BS.

[Sparkle]

30. Right!

[Tux]

6. Blog

1. Cheap PC with broadband, loads of RAM, and a good hard drive.
2. Install Linux with Apache and anyother software you'll need.
3. Get a domain name or let Apache attach itself to ISP's network (don't recommend)
4. Blog away
5. Profit!!

[librechik]

12. I love your enthusiasm

but I've been around since they promised that pay cable television would be commercial free. They will find a way to either limit access by viewers, or access to servers. Also,there's some legal trick in the Patriot II Act which somehow allows the govt full access to everything even on the private servers.

Who knows? They own it all. they can do whatever they want.

[babylonsister]

21. You just depressed me. Not really,

but there aren't many pretty pictures we can paint as far as the state of affairs in our little universe.
What scared me is, "They own it all. they can do whatever they want."
I have to believe that isn't entirely true. I HAVE to.

[applegrove]

25. They cannot sue can they? Not while they gut the libel laws? Or

They cannot sue can they? Not while they gut the libel laws? Or did they leave the libel laws untouched and only gut the laws that make it a penalty to suck the guts out of a 5 year old at the bottom of a pool instead of spending 5 cents on a screw?

Because those rich sociopathic assholes will get around things in the same way corporations do - by forcing one to hire lawyers to match theirs - even when they have no case, and bankrupting the little guy, (blogger) in the process.

So if I was a blogger I would look into forming an association and hiring your own set of lawyers - so you spread the danger and they don't scare the be-jesus out of you.


:mad:

[babylonsister]

2. Now THAT would cause an uprising! But

it's another logical step w/this admin.

[Nothing Without Hope]

4. THIS IS REALLY IMPORTANT!!! They have already started the campaign

For example, the framing of the "Gannon" case on Blitzer's show with his interviews of Howie Kurtz on one night and "Gannon" himself on another - it's set up as the "liberal bloggers" viciously attacking poor, innocent "Gannon" because of his political beliefs, using their devilish tricks to unfairly invade his privacy on the internet. Mark my words, this is just one step in a campaign that will rile up enough public opinion against those evil "liberal bloggers" that the Rethug Congress can ram some laws through suppressing interet freedom.

As you say, internet information access and activism opportunities are pretty much the last loophole left in the chained-down remnants of democracy in this country. They want to wipe us out so they have no internal threats to their total control of information access and political activity in this country. With us gone, it will be "Hello, Fourth Reich."

[Tux]

8. Hello, Christian Theocracy

Why aren't more realistic Christians countering this Evangelical movement? Where are they?

[Nothing Without Hope]

15. They need to turnup their volume and not be so "nice."

And even the Evangelicals might not like the true story of "Gannon," with his pimping for military personnel-turned prostitutes. After all, that's not in their book of golden rules. The corporate media are trying very hard to hide that. We need to get this information OUT.

[Extend a Hand]

24. I think you're right

cia working on spybots for irc chat rooms:
http://yro.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=04/11/24/2140209&tid=158&tid=17

supreme court to hear broadband regulation case:
(we really need those FCC regulations don't we)
http://yro.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=04/12/03/2141258&tid=123&tid=103

Former CIA head George Tenent calls for limiting access to the internet:
http://it.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=04/12/03/1544238&tid=95&tid=172&tid=103

How BigBrother is watching the internet:
http://yro.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=05/02/01/2344239&tid=158&tid=95&tid=103&tid=17

but at least, based on their pre-election polls, the smart geeks at slashdot didn't seem to think to much of the shrub-- so maybe there is some hope.

[Nothing Without Hope]

29. I am trying to collect links on this issue

so I am very grateful for these and any more that you have to document the unfriendly plans of the government and the corporate media for our ability to conduct progressive activism and information access on the internet.

So if you have more of these, I'd love to have them. We need to watchdog this and push hard to keep this freedom, or it -- and the last chance of saving democracy in this country -- are going to be suppressed.

Again, thanks!

[SoCalifer]

7. Hosting Off Shore

What about Blogs using IP service not friendly to the Bush / Repukes?

[Nothing Without Hope]

17. That's an option. I'm sure they'll try to outlaw that too.

They'll call it a security risk. Terrurist (TM) scheming, don't ya know.

[zulchzulu]

9. Ban PHP/MySQL

It is the web development code of terrorists!

[InformedSource]

10. I suspect even worse

The internet will be allowed to continue for a long while because it is a means by which dissidents can be kept track of. The Cyber Big Brother now has a record of everyone who has written against them, and everyone who has read what was written. When God's Gestapo gets the word to "take out" those who oppose, it will be easy.

Everything that everyone does on line is on the record. The net can give the illusion of anonymity, but it is that. An illusion. They have the means to know who we are.

Not only will political progressives be subject to something or other, but everyone who has ever looked at a pornographic website will be targeted by God's Gestapo. They're allowing it to electronically round everyone up. When they're ready ...

Am I a paranoid pessimist making too much of all this? I hope so.

[zann725]

19. I agree. I think of that each time I blog...or even email a friend...BUT

gotta keep kickin' to keep our heads above the water...until we can no longer. Can't give up and 'drown' now.

That's what every Resistance has HAD to do throughout history. We do this because we have no choice, because what COULD happen later, is less frightening than what's happening now. This is the "air" we breathe...that keeps us alive. We must not be afraid.

NGU.

[NAO]

11. They will focus on better propaganda, so bloggers echo * viewpoints

If you have not seen it (and even if you have) the movie (DVD or VHS) Manufacturing Consent: Noam Chomsky and the Media is well worth buying and watching a few times.

Chomsky argues that propaganda is to a free society what violence is to a dictatorship. It is the way people are kept in line. In democratic societies, people are kept in line by being highly indoctrinated and by having their thinking kept within an acceptable range.

I think this is one of the most important, if not the single most important films for progressives to watch to understand what is going on.

[disillusioned1]

16. I forced my husband to watch that DVD

He threatened to throw my laptop in the washing machine on the spin cycle. With softener. And have me committed.

He was terrified and couldn't face it. Wimp. I knew I should have married Kevin Nash when I had the chance.

[NAO]

18. It's part of the "propaganda filter"; he's a victim of thought control...

in a democratic society.

People have a strong psychological resistance to the notion that they are not freely choosing their ideology. I knew it was true, but had never heard anyone articulate it so clearly and delineate it in such detail as Chomsky.

[disillusioned1]

26. Agreed

It's like trying to argue with a drunk. Waste of time.

George Bush is the last free man in America.

[tridim]

14. Some possibilities..

1. Outrageous taxes on Internet news sites and forums.
2. Outrageous taxes on the Net in general (per minute tax).
3. Pass a law to let the FCC monitor the blogs for "truth".
4. Viruses, trojans, hacking of the blogs.
5. Framing the bloggers.
6. Suiciding the bloggers.
7. Arresting the bloggers.
8. Flat out making blogs illegal. (Must have an official news license)

I'm sure there are a thousand more ideas in Rove's notebook. Framing the bloggers as "conspiracy kooks" isn't working any more.

[zann725]

20. Since AOL, Adelphia and others now offer "free" virus/spyware protection

to customers...they could easily have access to EVERYTHING on our computers.

Adelphia in particular ("Florida-based," and currently being bought-out by AOL/Time Warner)...offers free "Freedom" Internet Security to its customers. When I first heard what they called it ("Freedom"), I immediately thought of the NeoCon way of naming things the polar-opposite of what they are (i.e., Democracy Plaza, Clean Air Initiative, etc.). People will put it on their computers because it's free, but what they may be getting is far from a "free" lunch.

[NVMojo]

22. first they need to get rid of their fake news blog sites like Talon ...

[evlbstrd]

23. Movable Type/Desktop Publishing/Print!

Ladies and Gentlemen:

Allow me to propose a radical New/Old Idea-Ink on Paper.
Granted, the Net and Blogs have made it possible to disseminate ideas more rapidly than ever possible at any time in Human History.
But, if the Buschist Fascists shut it down, or find some mechanism to make the Net Prohibitively Expensive or Dangerous, we must resurrect Old Communication Technologies. The Printing Press.
It helped foment Revolution many times. It can do it again.
Hell, it isn't that damned long ago that there was no widespread internet. But we still have our computers, our printers. Presses, copiers, mimeographs (ooh, the smell!} are still available. Since they are considered nearly obsolete, they are getting cheaper all the time. Plan ahead. Go to bankruptcy sales (coming to business near you) and buy the last generation of Communication Equipment.

[LinuxInsurgent]

27. they can't...

the Internet is based all over the world...the U.S. couldn't legally "ban" free speech on servers based on the United States...and even if a huge travesty of freedom of the press occured...bloggers would just host their stuff on servers in freedom-loving countries.

There's no way to stop the Internet as a whole...only inside particular totalitarian countries...but the Chinese government, for example, can't ban the entire Internet...it can just block it from its population.

I don't see that as likely in the U.S...and even if it did happen, the blogs would exist elsewhere.

[brainshrub]

28. Easy to do: They will set up a honey-pot for the bloggers.

Some issue that will get Bloggers excited enough to research. A week after the story gets some traction: The BFEE will release some revealing info that sinks the story and paints bloggers as a bunch of tinfoil hat conspiracy theorists.

[Vinnie From Indy]

31. It would seem that a very likely scenario would involve

taking a high profile blogger and publicly frying them a la Martha Stewart. I am sure they have contingencies for dealing with bloggers and these contingencies probably have an escalating scale of response based on the threat.