Why are some Dean supporters blaming the DLC for Iowa?

[mot78]

For the last two days, I've heard many comments from a group of Dean supporters (likely a minority of them ) claiming that Dean is being muscled out of the primaries by the DLC. But Dean lost Iowa because of his own gaffes, and unfair media attention. And while the media likes to portray Dean as angry, the truth is, is does come off like that, just look at his speech. Dean lost because Iowa voters were nervous about electing someone, who despite his campaign's energy, was perceived as a risky candidate, someone who's most likely to get taken down by an army of RWers. I don't think Al From and Bruce Reed went into Iowa and attacked Dean like Rove did to McCain in South Carolina. If Dean doesn't get the nomination, it will be because of his own gaffes, his infamous speech, and because he was unfairly scrutinized by the corporate media.

[boxster]

1. It is difficult to take responsibility for one's own failures.

It is much easier to blame everyone else, including the media, the DLC, the other candidates, the other candidates' spouses, children, and pets, DU, and anyone else within screeching distance.

[woofless]

2. Yup, ABD in a different context.

Now its blame "Anyone But Dean".

[Democrats unite]

4. Thats the best statement that I have seen on DU today

Thank you.

[XanaDUer]

5. That's funny!

:)

[boxster]

6. Very appropriate!

[waylon]

3. Agreed

Dean and Co could turn this around. They are getting the media coverage, they just need to learn how to use it.

[Julien Sorel]

11. But they have the experienced, battle-tested candidate,

while Clark is new to politics and will make horrible mistakes! Dean is a seasoned pro, though, so no one has to worry about Dean making mistakes! And as a seasoned pro, Dean will handle the media effortlessly! And his anger will be embraced by America, which is seething with rage at George Bush! All this talk of using a reasoned tone in one's discourse is for losers, for Bush-lite candidates like Kerry! Real Democrats let it rip and let the cards fall where they may! And Dean is unscripted -- it's part of his charm, and all America will embrace that charm! And attacks? Dean isn't like previous Democrats: Dean will fight back! Look what a marvelous job he did of fighting back against the attacks in Iowa! The other campaigns are top-down campaigns, and outmoded. Dean is running a bottom-up campaign, a new age campaign, that throws all the old rules out the window! Yeeeeeeeeeaagh!

[bearfartinthewoods]

18. dean is also tanking in the polls while going home to vermont

to watch hockey....yup that's a new style alright.

[XanaDUer]

9. Did you see the DU post blaming Hillary

and Bill for the stop dean movement. That was my favorite.

The same kind of nutty RW talking points I can read on FR , here on a democratic board. :eyes:

[PROGRESSIVE1]

12. Many people here at DU, including myself despize the DLC, but....

what happened in Iowa was not their fault. Dean did this to himself. Additionally, John Kerry ran a GREAT campaign and took his message to the people without the money and internet usage that Dean has. I commend John Kerry for his great work!

[NashVegas]

7. Hold On There

I don't blame the DLC for the 3rd place finish in Iowa, not unless someone steps forward with evidence that the DLC somehow greenlighted Kerry's push-polling.

What I do hold the DLC to answer for is the fact they're more concerned with clinging to power than they are for the future of our country and the people in it.

[Justice]

8. But Ultimately, Isn't Really About Who Came Out

for their candidate?

I read over and over that Dean supporters were locked into the caucuses - they would come out snow or ice - and make it happen for their candidate. They were so dedicated that no one - the DLC, the other candidates, no person could keep them away.

Either the supporters didn't come out or they weren't there. Dean didn't just lose by a small margin - we are talking about alot of people.

So how can you blame the DLC for anything?

[polpilot]

17. Go to the DLC website and spend 10 minutes then post back, 'Oh I see'.

Dean '04...Not the DLC

[bearfartinthewoods]

20. i heard a young woman call into cspan and say

all the kids at hher college were 'getting ready for the first day of the new semester' and couldn't make it to the caucus.

maybe the dlc was buying the beer?

[teevee99]

10. kerry was pushpolling?

do you have any evidence?

I hadn't heard that. if he did, that's loooooooowwwww

[hellhathnofury]

14. Well now you have

http://abcnews.go.com/sections/Politics/ThisWeek/Kerry_Dean_calls_040117.html


A third Iowan, Dick Alexander, told ABCNEWS he received a phone call about two weeks ago from an organization claiming to be a polling firm unaffiliated with any candidate, in which pro-Kerry and anti-Dean information was conveyed.

The Alexander call, should it have happened, would meet the definition of a "push poll" — a call purportedly from an objective polling firm that actually seeks to "push" voters away from candidates by spreading negative information about them.

The Kerry campaign insists it is not using any anti-Dean scripts.

"Not in a million years," said campaign spokesman David Wade.

[CWebster]

13. Is this thread an attack on Dean supporters?

[mot78]

19. No, just a minority of them who are crying "DLC/DNC conspiracy!"

[CWebster]

21. That is simply an evasive manuever

you can't make an exception and then excuse it as something other than an attack on Dean supporters.

[buckeye1]

15. More trouble for Dean.

Kerry opens 10pt. lead in NH.

http://news.bostonherald.com/national/national.bg?articleid=596

[oasis]

16. Iowa was just another case of buyer's remorse kicking in.