Clark, Dean and other supporters get their wish

[politicasista]

To help set Kerry up so we can nominate their man in 2008. Someone who is more articulate, charismatic, and I can have fun with. Someone who can speak plain English, speak to the voters, not at them, not be afraid of the media, just tell it like it is. Congratulations. :cry:

[stray cat]

1. I wish Kerry was president too

I think all the democrats and their supporters wanted Bush out this year. We were unified on that score even though many of us did have our candidates of choice.

However, in the meantime we're stuck with 4 years of Bush and need to make sure the trend begins to reverse in 2006 and 2008.

[PROGRESSIVE1]

2. I will do EVEYTHING I CAN TO make sure that WESLEY CLARK...

is our nominee in 2008! Also, I'd like to see Dean, Warner, or Kucinich as V.P!

If JK is the nominee, he has my FULL unquestioned support!

[Laura PourMeADrink]

6. Clark was a perfect candidate in 04 and will be in 08. But I still

think he HAS to pick a vp that can win a big state that we didn't win. Can Warner take VA? We need to lead by 20 points on 11-1-07 as a frawd buffer. If Rudy runs -- will we lose NY. AAHHH

[WorseBeforeBetter]

13. Based on feedback I get from...

those in and out of NY, I'm not so sure about Rudy taking the state if he were the 2008 candidate. Many aren't too thrilled with his "tactics" in cleaning up NYC, his ties to Kerik, and his comments re the troops, not Bush, being responsible for those tons of missing explosives in Iraq. Not to mention Judith Nathan and his bitter divorce from Donna Hanover. Then again, he IS "America's Mayor" (<--sarcasm).

[Laura PourMeADrink]

15. Hmm. Saw him ahead of McCain, today anyway. Not sure who

would be worst to run against. Actually, I'd rather run against Rudy than McCain - Rudy stood by Bush on all the post-9-11 rhetoric. But the city of NY went to K by what 80%

[Laura PourMeADrink]

3. say again? first sentence

[politicasista]

5. I think Kerry was purposely set up

so that whoever's favorite candiate can win the nomination, be treated fairly by the media, and not be judged on how he or she looks. I heard NOTHING positive about Kerry during the campaingn, except that we wished we could re-elect Clinton and hate Smirky.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

10. I think that implies that they would have to know during the

primaries that no one could beat the BFEE? That is hard to envision. That they took a dive then? I think it was probably devastating for Kerry to come so close, and to be defrauded out of a victory. I am sure that Dean and Clark are probably very glad that they didn't have to endure that. Kerry, has a good heart and he cares deeply but for some reason, he doesn't engender those warm, friendly, he's my buddy feelings out of people. He's like that studious one in school, who sat straight and did all their homework. No one ever gave them hugs and high-fives.

[Clark2008]

4. I'm sorry, but are you saying that Clark and Dean supporters

purposely wanted Kerry to lose so that one of them would be the nominee in 2008?
Because, if you are, that's hogwash.
Clarkies turned out for Kerry in droves. I can't speak for the Deanies, but my guess is that they did also.
I also want someone who can speak plain English, speak to the voters and not at them and someone who isn't afraid of the media, but I don't think any Clarkie or Deanie here (with the exception of maybe one or two) purposely wanted Kerry to lose.

If I've missed the meaning of your post, I apologize.

[Guaranteed]

17. That's not even up to the level of hogwash.

I worked my ASS off for Kerry, and so did Dean. We, including Dean, even COMPROMISED OUR FREAKING PRINCIPLES in arguing Kerry's positions.

FUCK that.

[Skidmore]

7. Oh, for crying out loud.

I caucused for Dean and voted for Kerry. I supported both men. I would still support both men in any role they would assume that is constructive and would move us forward.

This is the kind of BS we absolutely don't need now. It's counterproductive and divisive.

[stray cat]

8. Kerry was set up by the republican smear campaign.

We, the people who voted in the primaries, chose him. He had more votes in the election, I think than any candidate in history except for Bush this year.

No one on the democratic side wanted to see Bush win this year. Kerry wasn't set up by the democrats. However, we have to work on changing the bias in the media and beating back the republican talking points, message control, and smear campaigns.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

11. Your last sentence -- agree 100%

[mattclearing]

9. Thanks.

:thumbsdown:

[Adelante]

12. Where is this coming from?

This is the second post I've seen today saying there is some kind of conspiracy between Dean supporters and Clark supporters to set Kerry up, if that's what you're saying; frankly I can't make heads or tails of this.

Pretty funny the first time I saw it, since we're generally accused of having conspired with Kerry to set Dean up in '04, I actually laughed.

This is how it is:

Clark supporters will want Clark in '08, just as Kerry supporters will want Kerry in '08, and Edwards supporters will want Edwards in '08, and so forth.

Dean supporters, from what I can see here on DU, may want Gore in '08.

Maybe they will want somebody else.

THERE IS NO CONSPIRACY.

[WorseBeforeBetter]

14. For the record...

this is one Dean supporter who would support Clark in 2008, not Gore (personally I like him, but think Rove, et al. have inflicted too much damage). Perhaps a Clark/Warner ticket would be a winner. (At least we wouldn't have to hear anything about those dreaded northeastern liberals.)

http://www.governor.virginia.gov/Governor/GovBioHome.html

Hmm, a Presbyterian from Indiana, educated in DC and MA; wonder how he'd fare under Rove?

[Crunchy Frog]

16. Pardon me for asking,

but does this thread have any purpose at all other than to stir up animosities and provoke a flamewar? If there's any constructive purpose to this post, I would be very interested in hearing what it is.

The 2004 primaries are over. Your guy won. The 2008 primaries won't be for another 3 years. Why don't we work on trying to come together on issues that we all agree on? We can at least wait a couple of years before we start ripping each other to shreds over who we prefer for the 2008 nomination.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

18. Just an observation but, you sound a lot like a dissapproving

parent. Why can't people talk about whatever they want to talk about?

[Moderator]

19. Locking.

This is flamebait.