Does it seem that Republicans are over-reacting to the Gannon tale?

[emdee]

Do you see Reps jumping through hoops to defend Gannon and villainize liberals as being on a "witch hunt" to bring Gannon down? What's up with that? Several that post with me on a different message board are going to great lengths to make this seem as if we're attacking a sweet little puppy dog for no reason! Are they afraid that his trail leads to bigger dogs?



:shrug:

emdee

[dave123williams]

1. You bet they are. The whole story is too close to home for them.

Why, with a little constructive digging, we might find out how many people at Fox are actually on the take.

[Jon8503]

2. You don't suppose they have all visited his web sites do you???

[emdee]

6. Haha - that's it! n/t

n/t

[Quakerfriend]

3. Gannon must have been intimately involved with

someone in the administration, IMO.

I'm wondering what OTHER pics exist out there!

[FreedomAngel82]

4. Me too

One can only imagine.

[emdee]

7. Seems the most logical explanation to me. Would it be ugly....

if I hope it's Rove? O8)

Not that I want to see the pics, of course --- ewwwwww..

emdee

[BrklynLiberal]

5. To quote Gertrude in Shakespseare's "Hamlet "............

"The lady doth protest too much"

[emdee]

8. Exactly! nm

nm

[Bark Bark Bark]

9. Brought It On Himself

He did, after all, invite us to "come and get him." You know, the way Li'l Dubbie cried "bring it on" from a place of safety. Poor Li'l Dubbie now says he didn't MEAN for that to be taken as a challenge--*cough*--but I'd wager the scriptwriters for both of these fools are determined to be a little more careful in the future.

[Dr Fate]

10. Democrats NEED to be on a "witchhunt"- but they are not.

Once again, DEMS are letting the GOP/media define the "issue" at hand.

If they had a fucking brain b/t them, they would have TOP NAME DEMS like Kerry, Hillary and Obama on TV every night "raising questions" about this- using "hot" phrases like "Why is Bush paying the media to lie for him" or "What is the GOP congress hiding- why they are refusing to investigate this?" or "No telling who else is on the payroll, eh, Wolf?- wink-wink"

This story will be dead next week- just like every other Bush scandal that the Democrats refused to be agressive about.

The GOP/media is accusing DEMS of being on a "witch hunt"- so we may as well actually hunt some god-damned witches.

[emdee]

16. This is becoming a big issue for me too....

if they don't start speaking out and spending the dollars to take Reps down when they deserve nothing less, they will soon be losing constituents. Reps have no problem hounding an issue until something is done and we need to do the same.
I agree with your every word!
emdee

[KharmaTrain]

20. Give This Time...It's Still Early

Right now the story still hasn't completely developed...there are a lot of questions that we're going to find out answers to in the next few days...then let's see what happens.

Hopefully, through the hard work of a lot of online folks and REAL journalists we'll start finding out about "Gannon's" money & access...how he got both. The more we dig, the closer to home we get, the louder they'll squeal.

The Democratic Party itself should stay the hell out of this issue right now and that we keep the focus not on "Gannon's" personality or sexuality, but on this regime has compromised and manipulated the media...and the obvious stonewall that is going up to keep this story from gaining more legs.

We need to compile as much as we can and keep talking and digging...and then get in the face of the media who are directly involved in this cover-up.

Yes, this story will go away if we let it happen...that occured last year when this network first began to show itself during the Rathergate/Buckethead fiasco...but in the midst of the campaign, attentions soon shifted elsewhere. Now, we have the time, people and urgency to dig.

What we need now is an Edward Murrow...someone in the media who will stand up and speak for us. There are none.

[Dr Fate]

21. Uh-huh- we "gave time" to the swiftboats too.

Just enough time to let the GOP/media define the "issue" and burn their talking points into the national conscious.

The same thing is happening now- but in reverse- we are letting the GOP/media define this scandal as a "non-issue" instead of having Top DEMS going on TV and raising questions.

When the issue of GOP/media corruption is dead next week, think back to my post and you will know why.

[KharmaTrain]

25. "We?" More Like The Kerry Campaign

There were a lot of us chomping at the bits when the Swift Liars first stuck their heads out and had them pegged from the outset. In days we found O'Neill's ties and money. This info was out there and no one did anything with it.

The corporate media, even when they were faced with irrefutable truth of O'Neill's lies and the smear that was happening, went along with the ride. Many of us here were livid...and the Kerry campaign sat and waited. Yep, we were told it would be debunked and blow over. Many of us reluctantly kept our powder as, at least I felt, that the evidence was so compelling the corporate media couldn't ignore it. They did. Kerry got skunked. We learned.

I'm saying we rachet up the noise...show in front of their offices, get in their faces and find alternative media (create it where needed) to not only keep this story alive, but get into the whole issue of how the media is corrupted and maniuplated and shame them into either changing or risk losing audience, credibility and revenues.

Yes, this story is fading already...that's the reason to keep the noise up, but not until all the ducks are in a row. There's still a lot of loose ends in this scandal that will require several days or longer for those who are going at it...here and at a bunch of other website, to piece together a far more concrete timeline and connections. Then, once again, we present the evidence. This time, if the corporate media won't clean their own house, it's time to energize our growing numbers and force them to.

[Dr Fate]

26. I agree with the "we" part- disagree w/ everything else.

Democrats who have acess to top television interviewers (rather than "we") need to be "on TV" TODAY "raising questions" about this b/f it dies.

[Botany]

11. So far Mangate goes to:

Hannity
Rather Memos
Buckhead (the blogger who blogged about Rather & Memos)
Bob Novack
Tom Daschle in South Dakota (that would put him in touch w/ Nathan
Sproul)
V. Plame
Failed security at the White House
CNN's Wolf trying to kill story
Fox " "
Creative Response Concepts
Media manipulation of facts .... i.e. lying
Direct Payments to the "press"
Scott McCellun lying
links to ring wing "Christian folk"

and guess where this all should lead back to?
Rove & the Whitehouse.

Also who @ the White House is calling escorts?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x1589956



Keep Working Mangate = * poison

this will kill * in the public eye too.

Mangate = Liberal Bloggers Fight Back = Freeper reading this having a heart
attack

Stephanie :loveya: Miller

[noamnety]

12. It's all they know

Anytime anyone exposes a problem with Bush, they refuse to acknowledge the problem, and instead attack the person who exposed it.

Rather than deal with their AWOL president, they attack CBS.
Rather than deal with their president's willful negligence towards security, they attack people like Clarke.
Rather than deal with going to war on false evidence, they attack Wilson.
Rather than deal with their president allowing a fake reporter with fake credentials get access to classified documents that resulted in outing a CIA agent, they attack bloggers.

[Botany]

14. Classic Rove

Distract and attack. But this time we must attack on 3 or 4 fronts non stop
24/7 until * is driven from office........

No Retreat, No Surrender

Also Dr. Dean said his #1 job LOOK @ OHIO.

Mangate, 9/11 warnings blown off, the election, Iraq screw ups, falling polls,
and Social Security ......

Stephanie :loveya: Miller

p.s. EDVs of the KOEB are hung over! LOL

[Katidid]

13. My take on Gannon is ...

even tho he looks like a 'military macho man', if he were ever strapped to an interrogation chair, he would spill all, and then some. We need to hear from someone who will 'tell all' on all.

[emdee]

17. This may be their fear. nm

nm

[carrowsboy]

15. Ldotters on Gannon (mention "Jeff Christie")

http://www.lucianne.com/threads2.asp?artnum=198252

Comments:
The left will be howling about this until the next batch of Abu Ghraib photos come out.


Reply 1 - Posted by: skywise, 2/10/2005 5:25:09 PM

"Gannon's real name, Guckert, had been outed earlier Wedneday by investigators at DailyKos..."

HA! When it was PowerLine bringing down Dan Rather they were just "Wild people" from the blogosphere... But when its their side they're "investigators"


Reply 4 - Posted by: Evocatus, 2/10/2005 6:01:06 PM

So he uses a psuedonym, BFD.

Half, three-quarters of the posters on this website are using psuedonyms, including me, thank you very much.

Heck, there's a long, proud tradition of this, all the way back to "The Federalist Papers." I think Washington, Hamilton, Jefferson, etc had psuedonyms.

The only ones shocked-shocked for this story are the leftists in the media who want to take this guy down. It's so hypocritical.


Reply 6 - Posted by: TeacherNet, 2/10/2005 6:10:43 PM

For everyone who thinks this is a non-story... think about this:

Someone using a "fake" name gained entrance to the White House. The White House press room is not that far away from the Oval Office... ergo, he was awfully close to Bush... how great is secuirty that this could happen.

(I don't give a rat's patooty that he was a "friendly" conservative... unless you think that it's ok for each administration to have and implement an "anything goes" while we are in power type of policy. Isn't that what was wrong with Clinton?)


Reply 9 - Posted by: Ardys Parrish, 2/10/2005 7:30:21 PM

Alright, I admit that he is a criminal...he went to Davos and said that our Armed Forces were deliberately targeting reporters--oh,oh, wait that's not the one-No,he's the reporter that so cutely set-up the soldier to ask the President about armor...no that's not the one either. But anyway he was shamed into quiting and those first two are still around...how come? I agree, that the White House needs to use more care and should not be setting up reporters but the MSM has been setting them up for the game of gotcha for a long time now. It must get frustrating.


Reply 10 - Posted by: esmith, 2/10/2005 7:32:48 PM

Gannon used his real name when he applied for
a White House Press Pass. He owned a service
that allowed people to register accounts, none
of them ever were used. Peter Jennings never
finished high school and nobody questions him.
By the way Wolf Blitzer, is not his real name.
He quit because the dems were following him,
terrifying his family, and making obsence phone calls to his mother.


Reply 12 - Posted by: Ardys Parrish, 2/10/2005 7:42:10 PM

Alright he was hounded into quitting but how do you account for the fact that the other two are still working (one in spite of what some of us consider treason and the other for setting up a question)


Reply 13 - Posted by: micktexan, 2/10/2005 8:30:54 PM

I fail to see the point of a stage name...all actors use them and all reporters are nothing but wannabe actors.....


Reply 14 - Posted by: Yorkiemom, 2/10/2005 8:41:24 PM

Start impeachment proceedings immediately. Between this guy with his softball question and the new info about 9-11, Bush will be brought to his knees where he belongs. There, do I sound like someone from DU?

Seriously, they do have to be more careful at the White House. After all, we don't want anymore people like the Clintons to get in the place.


Reply 15 - Posted by: Penney, 2/10/2005 8:55:12 PM

...And Brit Hume reminede us tonight of Samuel Clements', 'Mark Twain.'


Reply 17 - Posted by: kennowen, 2/10/2005 11:52:16 PM

If my name were 'Guckert', I'd use Ganon as well. Or would it have been okay to call himself 'Snoop Guck'?


Reply 18 - Posted by: richdet, 2/11/2005 12:46:56 AM

As I recall, Rush Limbaugh during the early phases of his radio career went through a few changes of name, including Rusty Sharpe and Jeff Christie, before settling back into his real name. Does that make him suspect too?

Gannon's crime amounts to asking a provocative, conservatively slanted question at a press conference, for which he was targeted by the "free speech" zealots on the left, some of whom are themselves bloggers. No one has accused him of being a White House plant -- they are accusing him of being suspectly "biased," improperly "credentialed" because he works for an online news service owned by a "conservative." Fancy that.

How is Gannon's style of questioning any different from that of someone like Helen Thomas, or Terry Moran, who have been praised, not damned, for asking questions designed to embarrass Bush? And post-Rathergate, and in the Age of the Blog, why is the White House supposed to bar reporters of online news services -- at the say-so of liberal Bush-bashing reporters and a Democrat congresswoman?


Reply 19 - Posted by: richdet, 2/11/2005 1:21:32 AM

All the hyped-up outrage in this article and elsewhere about Gannon's "false" name ("ruse ... scandal ... amazing ... begs investigation") seems to me a convenient cover for the true objective here, which is to out Gannon as gay -- the angle elegantly referred to as Gannon's "gay prostie link" in this article.

Gannon's explanation for this innuendo is that he once did website development for a software company, which included registering domain names for some sexually explicit sites. None of those sites were ever developed. The panel this evening on the Brit Hume show, including Bill Sammon, gave credence to this explanation, so it seems that Gannon has been the victim of a slur designed to cost him his job.

He has resigned anyway, because he says his mother and his brother and sister-in-law have all received numerous death threats following his question at the press conference. My mother-in-law's life and home were threatened after she was once quoted making a mildly critical remark about Ted Kennedy in her local Massachusetts newspaper, so I can easily believe that part of Gannon's story.


Reply 20 - Posted by: Too Darned Honest, 2/11/2005 10:13:56 AM

The President should give the man a personal invitation to press meetings. The man was right on. Democrats are totally removed from reality on many, many things, especially Social Security and it's impending insolvency.

[emdee]

18. Unbelievable! nm

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[Cell Whitman]

24. Planted news and ties to treason ...but

Peter Jennings never finished High school

all even!!!

Are we dealing with a cult here or what?

Hey, did you see his badge up at EBAY?



http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=4103&item=3957884948&rd=1

[bunny planet]

19. Perhaps a few have 'hot military mandates' in their closets.

[m_welby]

22. apparently Rep. Slaughter and Rep. John Conyers think so...

Washington, DC - Rep. Louise M. Slaughter (NY-28), Ranking Member of the House Committee on Rules, and Rep. John Conyers (MI-14), Ranking Member of the House Judiciary Committee, called on Special Counsel Patrick Fitzgerald to investigate the leaking of a classified Central Intelligence Agency memo containing the identity of undercover agent Valerie Plame to a man at the center of the White House Press Briefing Room scandal, "Jeff Gannon."

Rep. Slaughter, a long-time advocate for media reform and accountability, brought this story into the national spotlight days ago when she wrote President Bush asking for an investigation into the issue.


http://www.slaughter.house.gov/HoR/Louise/News/Press+Releases+By+Date/2005+Press+Releases/Slaughter+calls+on+Special+Investigation.htm

[John_H]

23. This story is simple

Texas politcal operative friend of chimp funds a "news" agency.

4 days later the "reporter" operating under a false identity, gets white house cradentials.

less than two weeks later he is leaked the plame info

knowingly called by his false by the press secretary for the president of the united states, he is continually used as a "foil" whenever lines of questioning get too close to the truth.

Yeah, i know there are all kinds of subplots and intreague, but the simple story enough is all we need.

At the very least we ought to beable to get rid of scotty-poo--that is if our surrogates grow a pair and ask people like wolf, "Wolf, when the president's press secretary finds out that a reporter working in the white house is not only not a real reporter but is operating under a psuedonym, should he

1)immediately revoke that press secretary's credentials?

or

2)continue to call on him, using his alias?

[Skittles]

27. think about it

they NEED propaganda to feed to the ignorant to keep them voting GOP - against their own self-interests. Of COURSE they will feel threatened if they actually are forced to acknowledge these phony journalists and reporters.

[Clark2008]

28. Well, of course they are!

He's the most provacative of the (growing) list of "bought-and-paid-for" conservative "media" types.
They aren't concerned he has shady business dealings - most conservatives know that morality doesn't matter in business (ha!), but they are concerned about his personal sexual preferences. There is someone at the White House who seemed to like his tightie-whities a bit too much and they know it.