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moggie12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-05 04:20 PM
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The Dean article the RW doesn't want anybody to see (they spiked it!)
Edited on Sat Feb-12-05 05:18 PM by moggie12
Last night I was checking out "RealClearPolitics", a widely-read conservative website that provides a compendium of articles taking the conservative viewpoint. Much to my surprise, I found an article by James Pinkerton, the conservative Newsday (LI,NY) columnist, that warned that the Republicans shouldn't be so happy about Dean getting the DNC job.

When I went back to "RealClearPolitics" today, with the intention of posting the article here on DU, I couldn't find it. "POOF", it had magically disappeared from the list of articles published on February 11th! Apparently, someone at "RCP" doesn't want anything positive about Dean on their website (all the negative articles that dutifully repeated the GOP's talking points about Dean are still there). Maybe Karl Rove called in to complain???

It took me 15 minutes of searching to find the article somewhere else on the Web. So here's what RCP (Karl??) is afraid of anybody reading:

http://www.techcentralstation.com/021105F.html


SNIP:
If Republicans are giddy, many Democrats are leery. Here's how Newsweek observed the Democratic establishment's reaction to the "Deaniac" movement on the day of George W. Bush's re-inauguration:

In Georgetown that same evening, hordes of insiders partied at the stately home of Mark Penn, the Clinton family pollster, where they gripped and grinned with Bill and Hill, cheered each other up -- and fretted about Dean's assault on party headquarters. "There was a ton of positive energy at the house," a guest said later, "except for the fear and loathing of Dean."

Yet we might examine in more detail what it is about Dean that these Area-Code-202-Democrats fear and loathe Are they worried that Dean will cause them to lose elections? If so, there's no need to worry -- because Democrats are already losing just fine, without any help from Dean. Today, the donkey party is at its lowest ebb since the 1920s.

So while Dean may or may not be the cure for the Democrats' woes, it has already been proven that more of the same -- "hordes of insiders" partying in stately Georgetown homes, nominating their neighbors, such as Al Gore and John Kerry -- is not the answer.

Indeed, much of the impetus for Dean's ascension is the widespread feeling that the Demstablishment's institutions, even more than its ideology, are what need shaking up.


Another snip:
Republicans are on a roll right now, but a few thousand votes scattered around differently in a few states in the last two national elections would have made them two-time losers, not two-time winners. A stronger Democratic party might have delivered those needed extra ballots. And a Democratic party in which the energetic-outsider Deaniacs of '04 become savvy-insider Demo-niacs in '08 might prove formidable indeed.

Obviously the Republicans are stronger than the Democrats right now, and so the GOP has plenty of reason to look forward to '06 and '08. But at the same time, it's dangerous to dismiss Dean. Because, to update Oscar Wilde, those who say "Bring 'em on" have been known to regret such bravado.

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ewagner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-05 04:26 PM
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1. Your tenacity is appreciated
I like the article and thank you for posting it.

I like (and may adopt) this term : Area-Code-202-Democratsand in light of the posting about the lobbying firm of Quinn and Gillespie earlier today, I think Dean's selection as DNC chair is even more important.
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Katidid Donating Member (310 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-05 04:29 PM
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2. Me too ...
Thanks for the article.
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Tigress DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-05 04:34 PM
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3. Like to see the repubs shaking in their boots....
Edited on Sat Feb-12-05 04:36 PM by Tigress DEM
Hopefully they are too full of themselves to take the threat seriously.

I think again this calls for unity. Whoever we choose, we don't abuse.

If we have something to say to DEMS we think need to shape up, we must not do it in any way that gives the repubs a chance to use our own disaggreements against us.

We need to think of our goals and remember that our candidates are human beings. We need to be even MORE about the Golden Rule these days and encourage, support, rally our candidates publically, but take them aside quietly and talk about where they need to improve.

Any manager doesn't dress down an employee in front of the rest of the staff, but takes that person aside in private and works it out.

Our candidates work for us. We must become better managers than we have been. Constantly giving up whatever positive we can to ENCOURAGE this kind of behavior and quietly making corrections so that the corrections are constructive rather than destructive in nature.

If we find DEMS who are completely out of line, we should ask the to step out of line, for instance St Paul Mayor Randy Kelly who claims to be a DEM but took RNC money and promoted *.

But the object is to get the numbers and sometimes you have to work with what you have and anyone who can be maintained in the midst of this play needs to be kept or we spend time building momentum again.


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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-05 04:34 PM
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4.  Interesting - but going to techcentralstation.is above and beyond!
Those folks are GOP and Corporate PR repeaters-

and the site owner/leader sued one of us that called him a lobbysist and not a scientist - and he lost!

So it is official - you can not get good science info from the site. LOL :-)

Indeed the head of the site was the FOX CABLE NEWS science gut for a while and I had a fun time pointing out to Roger Ailes that this guy had an undergrad degree in "general science" and a few grad courses in Stat for non-math plus a 90 day law course.

And Roger sent me his usual FU email - but the guy was off their site in a few months. Not a loss for him since I found out that Roger only pays $100 for the items he picks up and publishes on the site - seems you have to pay something so as to show that you are not just a GOP reprint facility! LOL :-)


:-)
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moggie12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-05 04:40 PM
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5. LOL - didn't know "TechCentral Station" was a RW propaganda factory
Apparently, they didn't get the memo telling them to spike Pinkerton's article!! Don't you think it's weird that Pickerton's article was removed from RealClearPolitics? Someone must have complained .... otherwise, why would they have taken it off?? The articles stay on there for a while -- it's a rolling compendium of articles sorted by date of issuance.
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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-05 04:53 PM
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10. They do work out of Rove and Roger Ailes office - so it's likely
the result of a decision fairly high up.

I love the way mainstream media pretends Hillary's vast right wing conspiracy does not exist - as they praise the speed at which RNC op-po research is provided to the media!

ABCNote is funny - I like the folks there but they are good for a laugh now and then.

As Hillary says, the error in her comment was that it was not vast - just the same millionaire and billionaires over and over - and that it is not a conspiracy since they are obvious to all except to our media that appears to be paid by the GOP to pretend.
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moggie12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-05 06:38 PM
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12. Removing articles that don't fit the talking points ....
shows how conspiratorial they really are.

Vast or not, they sure are effective!!

Bring back the old days, when we had a real media. Where is Bob Woodward now? Writing brown-nosing books about Bush!!! Aaarrgghh...
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Guaranteed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-05 04:40 PM
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6. Good article, but it's still heavily underestimating him.
The best thing that the Bush administration has going for them is that no one is willing to oppose them.

No more.

One of the darkest times of Bush's last term was when Dean was at his peak. He was killing them.

Let's see him do it again.

The one thing that WE have to worry about is the media actually ignoring Dean. That's the worst possible thing that could happen. Somehow, I don't think it will, though.
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moggie12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-05 04:50 PM
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8. That's what I liked about the article - and why I think it got spiked
Pinkerton was saying exactly that -- that Dean could be effective at energizing the grassroots. More importantly, Pinkerton was pointing out that the "Area Code 202 Democrats" have been, in effect, running the Democratic Party into the ground with their inbred ways.

So, in a convoluted way, Pinkerton was saying, "hey, watch out guys, if Dean and grassroot Dems take control of the Party, they could beat us!!". That's a scary thought for the GOP and why I'm thinking the article got spiked. The GOP doesn't want that getting out!!!
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KlatooBNikto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-05 04:43 PM
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7. What they are afraid of is that a Real Democrat unafraid of the
Republicans is finally taking charge.The wimps are no more! Go, Dr.Dean! You have our support and our best wishes!
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Patiod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-05 04:52 PM
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9. They're not afraid, and that's okay - let them misunderestimate
Keeps the checkbooks in the pants pockets (and handbags), keeps Rove out on the golf course.

Let them think Dean is some left-wing screaming whacko. Let them think that in '06 and '08 we will have to pay people to hit the streets, while they have the churches turning out volunteers by the thousands. Let them think they can outfundraise us without any problem by hitting up The Pioneers. That's a good thing.

Let them think Hillary will be our candidate, and that they can whoop her with one hand tied behind their back.

I used to date a corporate lawyer from hard-core-cracker backwoods Florida, who had a slow southern accent you could cut with a knife. Won plenty of cases, because by the time the opponents realized he wasn't a clueless yokel, they were left scrambling to play catch up. Worked for him, could work for us.
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moggie12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-05 04:56 PM
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11. Exactly, and that's why they spiked it!! They're afraid of Dean!!
I bet they're pissed at Pinkerton -- instead of following the "GOP talking points" (that Dean is a left wing, unstable nut who will lead the Democrats off the cliff), he said the truth: That Dean will throw out the "Area Code 202 Democratic insiders", reenergize the Democratic base, and start winning elections.

Pinkerton won't be getting any more invitations to WH dinners!
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