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sally343434 Donating Member (628 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 08:46 AM
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NPR's Cokie Roberts gives "advice" to democrats
NPR calls Cokie Roberts their "political analyst." In fact, though, she is just another "media whore" who has well-known ties to the republican party. This isn't news to most of DU, of course. NPR has long been part of the RW media echo chamber, only with more of a patrician tone. They, like the rest of the state media, use partisan republicans to critique everything in society, including the democratic party.

Anyway, here are a few of Cokie's "observations:"

- Howard Dean is a poor choice as chairman of the democratic party.

- The last thing democrats need is someone who, it is claimed, can "rally the base."

- This is because Bush "won 97% of the fastest growing counties in the country"

- Cokie says when she looks at an electoral map, all she sees is "red" (referring to counties Bush "won.")

- Democrats need to abandon their "litmus test on abortion." It puts democrats "outside the mainstream."

- Democrats can only succeed by "reaching out to republicans."

There was more, but you get the idea.
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rpannier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 08:48 AM
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1. I think Roberts also said Bill Clinton was a poor choice in 92
Look how brilliant she was then.
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ladjf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 08:49 AM
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2. The fact that Cokie is lambasting Dean fortifies my idea that
his election was a great move. The time to worry would be if she were supporting him.
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 08:59 AM
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7. Exactly nothing attracts like the DC establishment lambasting someone
Fits right into the grassroots movement plan.
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 08:49 AM
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3. She's a dope.
Yup, rallying the base is a bad thing. OK. Don't want to get those Dems all excited.
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trogdor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 01:19 PM
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53. Besides...
...isn't the entire point of Dean being chairman that he intends to squash forever the idea that running a national campaign in, um, 18 states is a good way to do business? If the good doctor fails to do this, he will make himself out to be an even bigger liar than Dick Cheney, if such a thing were possible.

Cokie is full of shit.
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 08:50 AM
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4. We know why Howard Kurtz is such a massive whore,
what do we have on Cokie?

I thought Steve used to be involved with the Clintons somehow?

Ah, well, not that it matters.
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 08:58 AM
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5. Okay I missed that what do we have on Kurtz
the Why part

I know he ran stumbling down the CNN hallways to poo poo the Gannon/Guckert story but is there something else?
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 09:14 AM
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17. His wife's a big Repub operative that was an advisor to Arnie.
She's still on the payroll as far as I know.

Best source of info is "The Republican Noise Machine." I need to get ready for work, but I'll try to find more when I get back this afternoon.

Sorry I can't offer more now, maybe others have links?
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 07:30 PM
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69. Here you go.
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AP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 09:41 AM
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21. Speaking fees at weekend corporate events would be my guess.
I vaguely remember reading a story about her and her husband getting a five figure speaking fee for a weekend corporate event for some company like American Express.

I suspect it wasn't a one-time thing.

Now, why would they give her such huge speaking fees? Would she be so valuable to them if she took a different tack when she was on the radio and TV?
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Padraig18 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 08:58 AM
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6. Actually, her father was Hale Boggs.
She has far more ties to the Democrats than to the Republicans.
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TomClash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 09:05 AM
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11. and her brother is Tommy Boggs
and he has ties to everyone
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SharonAnn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 10:57 PM
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77. SHe's a Louisiana Democrat, pretty much DINO
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TomClash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-15-05 06:00 AM
Response to Reply #77
97. Carville is a Louisiana Dem but he's no Dino
She became a DINO in DC
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 12:23 PM
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45. she is a right wing bitch
during the campaign she would always attack Kerry and she said Edwards was exploiting his little kids for political gain by bringing them with him on the campaign trail.
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Jeff in Cincinnati Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 12:54 PM
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49. I'm glad her father is dead...
he would be moritified to see what a right-wing shill his daughter has become.
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salin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 07:30 PM
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70. Hale Boggs was a powerful democrat in Congress,
who died in a tragic air crash, and was replaced by his wife Representative Lindy Boggs who served as a strong democrat for a number of terms. Cokie has strong democratic roots, which makes her "chattering head, always flattering the repubs" mo really very interesting.

The only explanation I can profer is that which is ascribed to many DC talking heads - that as their popularity grew (via cable tv) - and their bank accounts grew disproportionately, that they became further detached from real America and further aligned to the business side interests espoused by the GOP... linked to the widespread popularity and press time they were given during the Clinton, Starr-driven media circus that they dropped journalism for cheap-shot sensationalism... and pandering. That explanation - which is used to explain much of the DC press corps, is about the only one that makes sense to me.
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Eloriel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 10:17 PM
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71. Hale Boggs is, IMO, one of the members on the
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 11:21 PM
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83. All the more reason to
conclude that cokie is a ghoul.
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T Town Jake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-15-05 05:52 AM
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96. There you go making sense and providing FACTS again...
...Padraig. That nasty habit of honesty you happen to have is a sure prescription for continued trouble - and one I applaud. :thumbsup:
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Dr.Phool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 09:03 AM
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8. I think Cokie Roberts
Is a poor choice for political commentator.
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ladjf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 09:05 AM
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10. Her voice sounds like she's about to fall asleep right there during
the interview. I believe that it is her attempt to sound "cool".
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 11:23 PM
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84. We should all call up npr
and say we don't like her "political analysis" and we'd like to hear another point of view..say ..someone without their head up bush's ass.
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TomClash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 09:05 AM
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9. Here are my observations
1. No one organizes better than Dean and who else with any ability wanted the job?

2. Fail to rally the base - the people who actually do the work - and watch them walk away.

3. Why did Bush win 97% of the fastest growing counties? It would be interesting to know that. These are mostly well to do places - why would they vote for Dems?

4. Look at an electoral map by population rather than land mass and half of it is blue.

5. Last time I looked, the mainstream supports choice and dislikes abortion - isn't that "safe, rare and legal." We mimicked them on the War and lost big anyway.
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AP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 09:47 AM
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24. Re: #3 -- the fastest growing counties are small, suburban and in....
...red states.

NYC, I suspect, has grown more in population than the top 30 counties on that last list in total. However, since it's already big, it's growth rate is small.

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Wright Patman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 09:06 AM
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12. When Cokie Roberts realized
that U.S. Rep. Hale Boggs (her father) was "Wellstoned" in Alaska three decades before we first used that term, she no doubt became very incontinent and was willing to suck up to whatever power establishment of the moment was in charge in D.C.

http://www.govsux.com/dsac.htm
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sendero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 09:06 AM
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13. That 97% fastest growing counties..
Edited on Mon Feb-14-05 09:07 AM by sendero
... thing particularly cracks me up. If there was EVER a more irrelevant statistic cited to make a point, I've never heard it.

It is beyond stupid that a "journalist" would parrot that meaningless number as though it has some meaning. Now even NPR is depending on the dumbass-ness of the average American.
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Lydia Leftcoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 12:54 PM
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50. The fastest growing counties--how to lie with statistics
If a county goes from a population of 10,000 to a population of 20,000 because a bunch of white flight developers put up McMansions and big box stores in a former rural town, that's "100% growth."

A high growth rate is easy to attain when you start from a small base.

What she means is that white flight exurbanites vote Republican. Not exactly LBN.
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Jeff in Cincinnati Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 12:56 PM
Response to Reply #13
51. Ranks right up there with "Game Winning RBI's"
What in the hell does that measure?
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CTyankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 09:07 AM
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14. Cokie can stuff it
as far as I am concerned. She P.O.'d me when she started moralizing about what Big Bad Bill Clinton did to "her town" with the Monica business, as if Washington hadn't been "done to" by countless politicians over the years! I thought I'd throw up.

Her mom, BTW, is a class act. I saw her give a graceful address at my stepson's graduation from Tulane 3 years ago. Too bad Cokie didn't learn more from her mom, Lindy Boggs.
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AFSCME girl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 09:07 AM
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15. Hi sally343434,
I was listening to this report on my way in to work this AM and almost ran off the road! As far as I'm concerned, Ms. Roberts can keep her "advice".....

:grr:

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Democrat 4 Ever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 09:20 AM
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20. Advise I "might" seek from Cokie -
The name of her plastic surgeon - know whom to avoid.

How to forget any and all journalistic integrity taught at "journalism" school - way to stifle any need for ethics in reporting must make life much easier for her.

The name of her voice coach so that I can put anyone to sleep at my will.

The name of her yoga instructor - she is very supple in bending into any position of any corporation that will sign her paycheck.

But seek advise from her on the Democratic Party, nah...she just isn't qualified, have the moral high ground or the freedom to speak truth to power to express any opinion to anyone about anything. She's sold her soul to the corporate board years ago...her father must be spinning in his grave.

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AFSCME girl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 09:43 AM
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22. I love it! n/t
:hi:
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 11:04 AM
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41. I have some advice for the rest of us: a thank-you postcard to the DNC
Another DUer posted this address -

Democratic National Committee
430 S. Capitol St. SE
Washington, DC 20003

Tell them they made the correct decision. Doesn't even involve having to send any money (although you could certainly do that at another time, if you're able) AND it's a postcard, so the message is out there for anybody to see who handles that postcard in any way.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 11:29 PM
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85. Thanks for this again, calimary!
I'm going to do this tomorrow..I've already donated my $20.06..but the postcard will be a nice touch.

I have just the postcard, too..it has the world on it with flags of all the nations as a border.

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Nicholas D Wolfwood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 09:11 AM
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16. Why in the hell would you take your enemy's advice?
I fucking hate it when Republicans and Republican asskissers try to give us advice. As if I'm going to listen to them on how I can best take their jobs?!?
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 01:53 PM
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56. This is a REALLY good thing to keep in mind, folks.
You waste your time and get yourselves all upset for nothing. This woman's two cents aren't even worth that much. Neither is such a submission from ANYBODY else on her side. Give it as much of your attention as it's worth, ie: NOTHING.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 11:32 PM
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86. I know..they're just oozing it in how
arrogantly disrespectful they are..to be a fascist you have to rude and no class.
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Raksha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-15-05 04:17 AM
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94. I'm glad someone else noticed--they do it ALL the time too!
Give us "advice," that is. Do they really believe we're that dumb?
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mattclearing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 09:17 AM
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18. What a colossal waste of time.
Stop listening/watching/reading crap. We have work to do.

Nobody cares what Cokie Roberts says...she is a single reporter on the least rated news network in the nation.

Bloggers shape more opinions than she does.
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jpgray Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 09:17 AM
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19. Votes for Bush are actually not votes for his policies
That's the false assumption Cokie makes. Most Bush voters were actually woefully misinformed about his stances. Give us a fair shake, and we'll beat them--I think Dean is a step in the right direction to that fair shake. We assumed the media could air out the problems with Bush's policies as long as we spoke about them. They didn't. We need someone they will quote, and if he's labeled "crazy" or "angry" as he's doing it, that's okay by me.
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ginnyinWI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 10:32 AM
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34. he barely articulated any policies during the campaign
People voted for Bush because he was able to make them identify with him. Once they did that, they would also accept his "vision" for America. Whatever he did after that didn't matter, because he was "their man". :mad:
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flpoljunkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 11:00 AM
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38. Bush stole "But at least you know where I stand" from Dean to great effect
Dean himself said, "If you like what I am saying, vote for me.  If you don't like it, don't vote for me.  But at least you know where I stand."  How refreshing in a candidate!  Such a good line that Bush stole it.

from a post on Daily Kos by Plan9 on Thu Dec 2nd, 2004 at 21:01:08 PST

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2004/12/2/1903/04781

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McCamy Taylor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 09:44 AM
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23. Cokie probably hasnt talked to a real person in years, when you
spend all your time with execs and business types and young Republicans you get a very skewed picture of America. I think this is a problem with a lot of journalists. It is why we need more New Deal/Great Society Liberal style journalists who understand the heart and soul of America. Is funny, immigrants who come to this country often seem to do a better job of figuring out how people here think than the ones born here.

:dem:
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JaneQPublic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 10:22 AM
Response to Reply #23
30. True. She's been ensconced in the DC Chattering Class for too long.
Edited on Mon Feb-14-05 10:23 AM by JaneQPublic
She's not one of those reporters who follow the candidates through the corner cafes in all the "fly-over" states. So she has no idea what the electorate thinks.

Hell, she probably doesn't even know what a gallon milk costs, and probably doesn't have a single friend who makes less than a quarter-mil a year.
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Toucano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 09:54 AM
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25. NPR has completed it's metamorphesis into FoxNews this morning.
Mara lead into Cokie's "commentary" with a great question:

"Why are so many Democrats worried about Howard Dean being elected chair?"

No effort was made to quantify the "so many" number. No source for the "worried" was provided. Set, spike.

She may as well have asked, "Does Howard Dean service truckers for pocket change? You decide." - a la "Daily Show".

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Supersedeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 10:42 AM
Response to Reply #25
35. NPR does a nice job of 'framing' the issue for propogandist like Kookie
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SharonAnn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 11:11 PM
Response to Reply #25
81. Answer "I don't respond to anonymous quotes!" Works for Dean!
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 11:45 PM
Response to Reply #25
88. It's More like ..."Why are so MANY
DAmn republicans worried that Dean is the New DNC Chair"!

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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 10:02 AM
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26. Cokie Roberts is nothing more than a two bit media whore
She would love nothing more than a one party political system in this country as would all the neo-cons (as long as it was their party)
If you don't like the way the two party system works sometimes you will hate the one party system all the time.
Cokie Roberts is a poor excuse for a reporter.
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Al-CIAda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 10:05 AM
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27. Cokie is Kookie. I saw her on Bill Maher recently and she was a
disaster! Totally CLUELESS on most issues and got several "WTF?" looks from Bill. She obviously will not be invited back. Space cadet.
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hatrack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 10:12 AM
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28. Boy, she is one tired old ho
I've seen JHS current-events classes that could do a better job than she does.

Hey, NPR! It's called "analysis". Try and find someone who can do it!!!
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cynatnite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 10:13 AM
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29. Some years ago, she faked her reporting location
I only remember she had a fake back drop done and got in a ton of trouble with the network. ABC I think. Anyone else remember this?

Since then I don't give her the time of day.
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 10:24 AM
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31. Did she morph or was I one of the dumb followers? A long time ago,
Edited on Mon Feb-14-05 10:25 AM by higher class
before '92, I remember her being sensible when I heard her on NPR.

Now, she and Mara are the number 1 and 2 reasons I despise their news and news commentary on NPR. (Scott Simon and Daniel Shorr are exceptions on commentary.)

The trouble with NPR is that aside from their wanting to be FOX newsie, most of the other talent is superb!

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CatholicEdHead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 06:20 PM
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64. Yes
Fox News has her, Mara, and Juan Williams as "NPR Liberals", when they are no such thing. They know their viewers will see NPR and automatically assume they are left wing nuts who are agreeing with Fox's adgenda.
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ginnyinWI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 10:28 AM
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32. Thanks for the "advice", Cokie--!
Looks like we're on the right track, then! :toast:
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noamnety Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 10:46 AM
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36. "Advice" = codeword for excuse to echo RNC talking points. nt
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KansDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 10:31 AM
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33. What? Nothing about the Dems and their need to use the "charm offensive?"
Cokie is truly amazing. How she can fellate Bush and say so much at the same time is truly amazing!

I wonder is her mouth is insured?
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 10:53 AM
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37. What are her well-know ties to the Republican party?
The only party that I was aware of her having ties to was the Democratic one. Both her mother and father were Democratic members of Congress.
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-15-05 09:53 AM
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100. Can anyone answer this question?
:shrug:
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Arkana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 11:02 AM
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39. This just in: Cokie Roberts is a media whore!
End of story.
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HootieMcBoob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 11:02 AM
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40. Cokie Roberts can kiss my lilly white ass n/t
:puke:
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GalleryGod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 11:59 AM
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42. She & Whore Husband Steve- Denigrated BOTH Clintons and then
Spent 8 years slashing them....:puke:
Your Corproration can buy these 2 whores, as a tandem, for a mere $75,000 a weekend:wtf: Cokie is a first class ass-wipe:hurts:
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mrgorth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 12:15 PM
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43. Did she say all this from Rummy's bathtub?
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CWebster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 12:19 PM
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44. Do the opposite of everything she advises
That's the charm.
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 12:26 PM
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46. she is like Candy Crowley
always making ugly faces and mean spirited comments when talking about Democrats.

i hate the fucking bitch. Crowley and Roberts are worse than Ann Coulter since Coulter is open about her political leanings. but Roberts and Crowley try to pass themselves off as objective analysts.
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Redleg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 12:42 PM
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47. FUCK YOU, COKIE. We don't need your advice- who the fuck do you
Edited on Mon Feb-14-05 12:43 PM by Redleg
think you are? This line of bullshit from Cokie and others is getting to the be the MSM script.
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Jeff in Cincinnati Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 12:50 PM
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48. Hey, Come On! This is great advice!
Take what Cokehead says and do the exact opposite. You can't go far wrong.
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GoldenOldie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 03:14 PM
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58. Anybody listening to the DC "Consultant's/Analyst's"
The one thing that the Good Doctor said in his speech, was that the Party was going to be built from the voters on-up not from the DC Consultant's on-down.

The Inside the Beltway crowd has been living high-on-the-hog for to long at expense of our Nation and all of its citizens. They have no honor or integrity be it Cokie Roberts, Tucker Carlson, Katie Couric, etc., etc., etc., etc. As expected they have come out in full force to attack Dr. Dean.

The Good Doctor is IN and he understands hypocondriacs;/hyocrits.
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FlyByNight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 01:09 PM
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52. Cokie ("Cokie"!?): yet another silly, vapid whore
Meanwhile, Bush's victory - electoral irregularities notwithstanding - was the slimmest margin since Wilson (I think). It was hardly the resounding 'mandate' the compromised media whores tried to make the election out to be. Her 'wisdom' is simply more tired, warmed-over, Beltway-speak that possesses barely any relevance.

:argh:

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DrGonzoLives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 01:45 PM
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54. Yeah, that was all a load of horseshit
Republicans win by rallying their partisan base, but the Democrats, well, it won't work for them, they have to become more like Republicans.

Cokie needs to just shut the fuck up.
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sarahlee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 01:50 PM
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55. Cokie Roberts
sounds like a Republican. I don't listen to what they think we should do.

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meow2u3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 02:42 PM
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57. Kookie's advice to Dems translated into English
Kookie to Dems: just roll over and let Repukes walk all over you. Just realize it's our world, but you just live in it.
:grr:
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googly Donating Member (801 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 03:24 PM
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59. Cokie is a rich lady who loves her taxcuts...explains everything n/t
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Riding this Donkey Donating Member (658 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 03:24 PM
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60. Cokie can *F* off
With her kind of advice I'll need Coke, oxy, etc. LOL
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Tinoire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 04:40 PM
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61. Wow. And now I know all I need to know about her.
I barely even knew who she was before, but now... ;) DU rocks!
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Adelante Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 05:06 PM
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62. Oh, Cokie
We got the chairman we needed.

Although, there is something to this part, whether we like it or not.

Democrats can only succeed by "reaching out to republicans."


The two parties each had 37% of the vote in '04, and split the independent vote. Independents aren't going to vote by party, but by candidate. The only way around it looks to be to chip away moderate Republicans so that the Republican party's share decreases and the Democratic party's share increases.

http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2004/pages/results/president/

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JoAnnSimon Donating Member (37 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 05:07 PM
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63. Cokie
Cokie has a verifiable history of almost ALWAYS being wrong on her political projections. One of the reasons why she and her DC pundits so often get it wrong, is that they so seldom get out of the 'Beltway' to take the pulse of the national as a whole.

And as far as her relying on the 2004 election results to make predictions, she'd better take a look at Bush's current approval ratings (45% Feb.6-9th), and take a close look at the Exit Polls (discredited by the Repubs and the press) which clearly showed Kerry the winner.

We have a horrible disconnect from reality in this country right now. We're encouraged to draw conflicting views from the same piece of evidence: i.e., when the Exit Polls differed from the final vote tally in Ukraine, our Government supported the Exit Poll numbers over the final tally, and was gung ho behind a new election; YET when the Exit Polls in this country differed from the final vote tally, suddenly our Exit Polls were all wrong, and we were told to blindly accept the final tally (which could have been tampered with)--no need for re-vote...no need for revote.

Of course, in this country the Exit Polls showed Kerry the winner; in the Ukraine the Exit Polls showed the candidate the U.S. Government opposed as the winner.

Think it through. The hypocrisy of our current administration and our mainstream media is blatant, and you'd see it if only you look beyond the buzz words and the spin.
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LinuxInsurgent Donating Member (475 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 06:22 PM
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65. Cokie, let me give you advice
take your media whore ass out of my face...we democrats are gonna fight now!
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PROGRESSIVE1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 06:23 PM
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66. and when Democrats get back into power....
we will SHUT NPR DOWN and sell them off to Air America radio!!!
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Debs Donating Member (723 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 06:35 PM
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67. I have advise for Cokie
Bite Me
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Lindacooks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 07:04 PM
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68. Jeez, I hate her.
and a better name for her is 'Cokehead'.
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marcologico Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 10:22 PM
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72. Frankly I'm surprised they tore themselves away from their 3-hanky yellow
ribbon stories long enough to talk about it. Anyway I missed it.
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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 10:22 PM
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73. I thought we were not supposed to care what celebrities think. n/t
n/t
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Mountainman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 10:33 PM
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74. I heard her this morning and started laughing. It's not the number of
counties but the number of voters in the counties that counts.

I am sure glad that some of the DUers who would cave on choice and gay marriage have a speaker like Kookie Roberts to repeat their talking points.
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RealDems Donating Member (230 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 10:52 PM
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75. My Goodness, I had supported Dean's campaign for DNC...
but if Cokie is against it, I should rethink my support.
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Callboy Donating Member (167 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 10:55 PM
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76. Reminds me of Alan Greenbucks wife
Andrea "Once a week Imus Interview" Mitchell. She is quite the Bush cheerleader. Fair and balanced reporting. How is Al doing anyway.
Whats his rip on this Social Security Dismantling Movement?
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 10:59 PM
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78. Cokie on Crackie!
:silly: :thumbsdown:
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elshiva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 11:05 PM
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79. Congratulations Kookie!
You get the elshiva medal for ass piracy! Awarded for going after Democrats for no frikkin' reason accept to be a media whore. Kookie certainly loved the Clinton years when she could talk about...oh you know what already!
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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 11:06 PM
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80. Cokie needs to stick to writing books about Colonial Sewing and...
...shut her damn piehole. She's been hangin' with George "Mr. Baseball Analogy" Will too long.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 11:18 PM
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82. Why doesn't npr get a
fucking neutral "political analysis"? cokie is like having a faux reporter doing political analyisis for the Dems..

If I gave money to npr..I would stop immediately and tell them why.

This shit has got to go!@ :grr: :mad:
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AuntiBush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 11:37 PM
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87. Did you say "Kookie" Roberts?
:puke: to Kookie!
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 11:48 PM
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89. what a f***ing WHORE she is
I'd really like to know what her slice of the bush propganda pie dollars is
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Spiffarino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 11:59 PM
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90. No donations to NPR in 2004
I began growing sick of NPR right before Bush was selected in 2000, but I thought it was just a phase. Nope. They went face-down in the Republican feedbag and haven't come up for air in four years.

My wife and I were regular contrubutors to public radio from 1985. In 2004 that ended. I'm not throwing my money down that rathole, preferring instead to give to our local low-power ultraliberal radio station.

If the Republicans wanted NPR to fail, they succeeded not by underfunding, but by co-opting it.
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Gyre Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-15-05 12:35 AM
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91. No donations to NPR in 2005!
Sounds like a damn good idea. They've been corrupted by their own success. Now they just coast on their mythical reputation as a progressive news outlet. They are far from that these days. Want progressive? Listen to Democracy Now! Give them your money! Rip up your NPR solicitations when they come. Let the repubes fund them since that's the slant anyways.

Gyre
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-15-05 12:43 AM
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92. Never take advice of anyone named "Cokie", "Cokehead", "Crackwhore"
Edited on Tue Feb-15-05 12:44 AM by robbedvoter
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Andromeda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-15-05 03:12 AM
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93. Since Kooky Roberts is notoriously wrong ...
most of the time I don't pay much attention to anything she says.

She can just keep her advice to herself because there aren't many people who value her opinion anymore.
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marcologico Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-15-05 05:11 AM
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95. Cokie always sounds like they scraped her out of an all-night bingo parlor
so I wouldn't worry about her changing anybody's mind.
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The Flaming Red Head Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-15-05 06:34 AM
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98. Lindy and Hale could never produce this
she must be the milkman's daughter or they switched her at birth.
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BNW Donating Member (27 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-15-05 06:40 AM
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99. and Kerry won 97% of the largest counties
and why is it a bad thing to rally the base? oh yeah, because Democrats should just decide to be Republicans.
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