Are We Ready To Demand The Impeachment For **?

[me b zola]

We know that it is long overdue, but the word must be disseminated beyond our blogeshere. Letters to our Senate & House, both Dem & Repub, state our case. Yard signs, all of us, inform our neighbors of the case for impeachment.

I am going to construct a flier that I am going to leave everywhere I can. I would appreciate any help or suggestions so as to best make my case.

Anybody else ready to demand accountability?

[BlueEyedSon]

1. Let's start small... with Condi.

[Stand and Fight]

3. Nope...

That would be a massive error -- you go after the big fish at one time; that is, Bush and Cheney. It would serve to put the other sorry SOBs on notice that their lies and chicanery will not be tolerated... At least, in my opinion...

[moggie12]

2. No, I'm not ready to work for his impeachment

I've decided to devote my time to helping Dean, the DNC, and Dem leaders like Reid, Boxer, and Pelosi. While a laudable goal, impeachment isn't going to happen. I think the more effective strategy is to disseminate info, like you're planning to do, but to leave impeachment out of it: More people will listen to you that way. Just my opinion, since you asked.

[politicaholic]

5. I'm with you Moggie, impeachment is not the right course of action.

An attempt at impeachment may even hurt the Dem party.

[FreedomAngel82]

16. There's nothing more that would please me

then to see Bush and company booted out for all their war crimes and ignoring 9/11 and of course all the election theft. They've done so wrong but to work on it now wouldn't be good. Right now I think we need to concentrate on getting people elected in 2005 and up. Then once we get more democrats in the House we can start working it. While there are so many republicans there it wouldn't be good. They could use that against us when so many people out there are for Bush and company. So until our leaders start talking about impeachment I don't think we should either. Just my opinion of course.

[politicaholic]

24. "We need to no longer just be 'against Bush'..." -Howard Dean-

We are not going to build the party on hate. We need to make people understand where we come from instead of souless power moves. Eventually this whole decentcy push and moral values frenzy will come back to bite the republican party and the American Taliban minority. The war and the push for corporate re-monopolization that Woodrow Wilson fought so hard against will stop any good intention by the republican party dead in its tracks. Greed and Religion eventually cancel each other out.

"All those who fight against progress will drown in the river of time."
-Me 2/14/05-

[Stand and Fight]

6. I disagree with you...

The effort itself would start to wake up more Americans to the fact that something is terrifically wrong in their country. The problem that we have now is that so few realize the sheer scope of the lies they have been told by this administration. Removal from office may not happen, but if enough of an outcry is made the people in Congress could be made to stand up and take notice and then more of the American people will take notice. Just consider what happened to Clinton -- once Americans knew the story, they still were not for actually removing the president from office; however, he was impeached. However, it is my strong opinion that if Bush and his crew went through impeachment proceedings and the American people saw them for what they really are, they would be removed from office. I do adamantly feel that the American people, while grossed mis-/un- informed are honest and that they would demand Bush and company answer for their crimes... There has NEVER been a more worthy candidate for impeachment and removal from office in the history of the republic than George Walker Bush. Anyone who would say otherwise is obviously NOT been following the news these past four years.

[moggie12]

13. There's definitely something to be said for the "wake up" aspect of it

But, I really don't think there are ground for impeachment (not to mention the votes in the House). See this overview of the impeachment process:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/special/clinton/stories/watergatedoc.htm

SNIP
"The Constitution deals with the subject of impeachment and conviction at six places. The scope of the power is set out in Article II, Section 4:

The President, Vice President and all civil Officers of the United States, shall be removed from Office on Impeachment for, and Conviction of, Treason, Bribery, or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors."


The closest charge would be the manufacturing/misstatement of the existence of WMD's but there's not enough there to make a case.

[me b zola]

23. I believe that there is much more that is provable

The first and most recent glaring example would be the nomination of a person to be SOS that he KNEW had committed perjury. This sets the stage for the cumulative actions, and lack of actions, that tell a story of egregious abuse of power and the executive office.

[Imalittleteapot]

4. I'm ready but it will never happen as long as

the Republicans hold the majority in the House, unless Republican citizens blast their Republican reps with the demand. Dream on.

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[me b zola]

9. Indeed it is far from likely

But with possible independent prosecutors looming, maybe a sign that a large part of the nation is demanding accountability may cause enough Congress to grow a pair.

I believe that their are several Repub Congressmen that are secretly disgusted with shrub and would welcome an opportunity to bring him down if they thought it would be successful.



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[mattclearing]

7. He knowingly misrepresented the case for war to Congress.

Completely impeachable. As is the chronically bad budgeting.

I think a people's impeachment movement can only be a good thing. There is no excuse for the behavior exhibited by this Administration.

[me b zola]

11. Yep. And how he pushed condaSleezy on us

when he knew she had committed perjury.

To me, part of my campaign involves criminal charges being brought against her. Quite a substantial brick in the wall of the ousting of shrub.

[meow2u3]

10. We need to demand CHENEY'S impeachment first

We wouldn't want the man behind the curtain become president, and selecting a veep which would make Bush look like a choir boy by comparison, now would we?

[me b zola]

12. My greatest hope/ desire

is that the public demands for impeachment will bring a multitude of investigations that send the whole damn bunch away!!!

True enough what you say about Cheney, but with the whole PNACH gang in there, it's bad no matter how we slice it. I want to expose, discredit, & dispose of all of them...

[FreedomAngel82]

19. Couldn't the people doing the impeachment

get the whole administration? Including Karl Rove? They're all in on it and have worked together. I also think anybody who was working with Bush company on their agenda(s) should also be kicked out of office.

[calimary]

20. Maybe not. it's bush who's the most popular of the two. cheney has

a far lower popularity quotient. And if bush were to go and we'd have cheney officially in charge, the giant sucking sound you'd hear across the land is the sound of reality hitting America's collective forehead. Plus it'd deal a delicious black eye to all things republi-CON for many years. bush is the front man for a reason. cheney doesn't want the spotlight. He likes to operate in the shadows and behind and under stuff, where people can't see what he's up to.

[Darkhawk32]

14. In we win back the Congress in '06, then we can draw up the papers....

until then, build up the case and plunge forward.

[me b zola]

21. Exactly. Build the case..

Both legally & with the public.

[borg5575]

15. They control the Congress and the MSM.

It's just not gonna happen. You might hope that we can make big gains in the 2006 off year elections and then try it, but even that would be a long shot. The numbers just don't add up. It would be virtually a mathematical impossibility for the Democrats to gain a 2/3 majority in the Senate since only 1/3 of the seats would be up for election and as we know it would take a 2/3 vote to convict him.

So even though he surely deserves to be impeached and convicted it's not going to happen. And even if it did we'd get Cheney who would be just as bad or God forbid worse.

[goodhue]

17. Impeachment requires Congressional action

We don't have the votes

[calimary]

18. Whaddya mean "are we ready?" I've been ready since late January,

2001.

Hey, at this point, I'll take anything. But this has always been one of the dreams nearest and dearest to my heart. Well, actually, two. One is impeachment and two is removal from office. The republi-CONS, to their everlasting regret, didn't quite manage the second part.

But those who've posted here about focusing on building support for Howard Dean and forcing the Pelosis and Reids of the world to get with the program - that IS a worth goal, too.

[burythehatchet]

22. If I know my Bush administration

they will say, "well he was fraudulently elected, so he was never president, so he can't be impeached"

[me b zola]

25. lol. But you forgot..

"...so THERE! Now move along."

[emcguffie]

26. YES n/t