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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 01:17 PM
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Why Dean needs to expose GOP control of mainstream media as a PRIORITY
Dean has said that Dems lost because of the national security issue....but, WHY....really why?

The media always downplayed Kerry and every other Democrats' role on terror issues while trumpeting Bush with only glowing terms as if he alone understand the terror issue. The media LIES about Bush on a daily basis to protect his image.

How many Americans know that Bush, Cheney and Rice REFUSED to read the Hart-Rudman Report on Global Terror that was handed to them on Jan30, 2001?

How many Americans know that Bush was handed the conclusive evidence that it was definitely Bin Laden behind the bombing of the USSCole and it was HE who failed to respond, not Clinton?

How many Americans know that Bush wouldn't allow the Saudis to be implicated for their support of Bin Laden in the final 9-11 report, and had those pages redacted?

How many Americans know that Bin Laden WANTED to overthrow Saddam's secular government for YEARS and replace it with an Islamic theocracy?

How many Americans know that Bin Laden wanted US military bases CLOSED in Saudi Arabia and that Bush quietly closed those bases last year?

How many Americans know that John Kerry was tracking down terror
financiers and closing terrorist supporting banks as far back as 1991?

How many Americans know George Bush was making deals with these same terrorist banks and pocketing millions from those deals?

How many Americans know that the GOP ignored Kerry's warnings on the spreading of terrorism in his 1996 book, The New War?

The answer to all these questions is DAMN FEW....thanks to the corporate media who works to protect Bush by preventing the American public from learning any pertinent truths about him or those who oppose him.

Dean has to EXPOSE the GOP control over most of the media and their shaping of the news to keep the dictatortot propped up. That and the BBV issue are the only concerns that need to be dealt with IMMEDIATELY. All else is a waste of time and energy.
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cthrumatrix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 01:20 PM
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1. if you may recall.... he said this on Hardball b4 the Iowa caucas...he was
labeled soon after... I remember very cleary Dean saying he wanted to "break-up" the concentrated media powers.

That put a "huge label" on him ..... you know the rest.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 03:10 PM
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12. Kerry said something similar in June2003 and soon after his candidacy was
Edited on Mon Feb-14-05 03:41 PM by blm
declared dead by all the mediawhores for months, drying up his donations.

But, as far as I know, NOONE has touched GOP control of the mainstream media.
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 03:29 PM
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15. He talked about media concentration, not GOP control of media
Those are two different things.
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 06:54 PM
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18. Kerry Also Made Mention Of Same
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htuttle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 01:20 PM
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2. I don't think 'WHY' should be the operative question here
I think the real question, is "HOW"?

HOW does someone, even the head of the DNC, expose the media's complicity in propping up the Bush administration? Can you do it using that same media? For some reason, that doesn't sound too easy.

That's why I think the 'HOW' is more of an issue than the 'WHY'.

And no, I have no easy answers myself. If I knew where the big OFF switch was, I'd have flipped it years ago.
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Melodybe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 01:39 PM
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4. Talk about who owns what, it is as simple as that
Murdoch and the Saudis own news corp. The Saudi's own AOL/Time/Warner and own a large stake in Disney. GE owns NBC and makes billions more off of the weapons that they sell to our government every year.

It is sad when I can tell you exactly what ________ reporter is going to say about Bush just by knowing what publication they work for.

Time magazine, Newsweek, USA Today, the New York Post, expose the corporate owners and the biggest part of your problem is dealt with.

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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 01:44 PM
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5. Well, they can't edit his words when he's LIVE on camera, can they?
It will also take ALL of us to support him FORCEFULLY when he does take on the media. Even if it means picketing their damn studios every day till the next election.
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htuttle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 01:57 PM
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7. No, they can't, but can easily cut to something else
..and we all saw that happen enough to Kerry, et al, during the campaign. As long as they control the director's video editing board, they control the message.

Maybe it would work to simply keep hammering home the same messages about the media, but I think the corporate media could easily ignore a statement from the head of the DNC (just as easily as they ignored a presidential candidate's statements).

I think they need to open another 'channel' to the American people, but I don't know how or what that would entail (not necessarily a TV channel, another communcations 'channel').

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cestpaspossible Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 02:00 PM
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8. "We seem to have lost the video feed from Governor Dean"
expect to hear that a lot.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 02:38 PM
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9. Full page ads in every significant media market listing CORPORATE OWNERS
and their significant stockholders like the Saudi royals and other Bush backers.
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htuttle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 02:42 PM
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10. That's a good idea
There *are* other channels, such as paid advertisements as you suggest, that can get the message out. I don't mean we should ignore the corporate media, merely not rely on it entirely. At least not expect them to cover us 'for free', since they won't.

Anyone ever think about doing Ross Perot-style 1/2-hour informercials again? It was a novelty back then, but it got his message (and his charts and graphs!) on the screen.

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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 02:52 PM
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11. I was SO hoping Dems would follow that model.
.
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John_H Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 03:28 PM
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14. The question is WHEN? Pls see post 13.
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coloradodem2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 01:35 PM
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3. Hopefully he will do this.
The fact that he said if he were elected President, he would overturn the Telecommunications Act indicates that he will push for this.
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cestpaspossible Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 01:55 PM
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6. Dean
does understand the importance of the issue (Although I don't think he ever actually specifically said he would 'overturn the Telecomm act'). The problem is, the myth of the liberal media has been actively spread by the right for 40 years, it won't be debunked in the public mind overnight.
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John_H Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 03:27 PM
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13. It starts with HIM!!!!!!!!
1)He's got to keep doing what only two high-profile dems (Dean and Clark) know how to do, apparently: Call the whores on their bias, real time and on the air. This is key. I've never seen a whore do anthing but back down when they are charged with bias on the air.

2)He's got to get rid of the whore cow-towing, judo chess playing media people currently employed by the DNC and hire people who will play smart and tough with the whores.

3)The DNC should impose strict discipline with it's surrogates. They should be made aware that their appearences will be mnonitored and evaluated. If they want to act oh so clever and say what they want, fine. But they're not going to do it with the help of DNC bookers.

4)The number of anti-MSM think tanks and web sites has to be quadrupled. These sites and thinktanks should be funded in exactly the same way the rethugs' anti-media adjuct organizations are funded, if you know what I mean.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 06:17 PM
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16. I think that's the FIRST strategy Dean needs to deal with for the Dems.
Edited on Mon Feb-14-05 06:18 PM by blm
Get all the talking head Democrats on the same line of attack against mediawhores.

I thought Begala and Carville would do it for the last two years, but when mediawhoresonline went down they lost their motivation to call the media out for even their most egregious crimes against journalism.
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wiggs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 06:33 PM
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17. It should be a priority. It is key. But
...it took the GOP a couple of decades to get to the point where their message is framed as they want it framed. It is not going to change soon.

Media control is the only way the worst administration in history could have been re-elected, the only way weekly policy outrages go unchecked, the only way election fraud is continuing. This is the cornerstone of their overall strategy to manipulate public opinion. It is everything. The administration does not get what it wants (corporatism, imperialism, fascism, rape of environment, privatization, re-election, social darwinism, fundamentalism, concentration of wealth, exploitation of the rest of the world, manipulation of science, destruction of enemies and detractors, etc etc etc)

Control of the media very nearly equals invulnerability.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 08:25 PM
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21. That's it in a nutshell: Control of media very nearly = invulnerability.
That is why it is the fight we have to take to them. NOW.
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 06:58 PM
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19. Take Cue From Wes Clark. He Laughs Right At The Mediawhores
Edited on Mon Feb-14-05 07:00 PM by cryingshame
they ask him a bullshit question and he laughs directly at them in his disarming, lovable way... and then proceeds to say what HE wants to say.

Suppose all Democrats just started laughing at & quipping about the biased questions and then ignored them and just used the air time for their own comments?

"Well, Judy, since you seem intent on asking me such a slanted, irrelevant question I'll just respond by saying .........."

Can that approach work?

Dean's refusal to answer 'blind quotes' was brilliant.
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DemocracyInaction Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 08:01 PM
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20. May I suggest the Howard also hammer the points you just made
If they were hidden by this media then Howard has to keep coughing them up on tv appearances, interviews, etc. Let the people hear. AND, also let him point to the media and ask "why didn't you report that"??
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Hell in a Handbasket Donating Member (242 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 08:35 PM
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22. he started taking on Fox news halfway thru the primaries, right?
i seem to remember him taking a few jabs at them.
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