Tell me again why we aren't contemptuous of the 9/11 Commission Democrats?

[farmbo]

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story2&u=/ap/20050210/ap_on_re_us/sept_11_faa

Lee Hamilton, Bob Kerrey, Richard Ben-Vinisti, Jamie Gorelick, and Tim Roemer were fully aware of the information contained in the recently released FAA report detailing over 50 warnings to Bush Administration officials about a possible al Qaida attack, using airplanes as weapons.

Yet they said nothing.

Nothing while Bush and Rove crafted their entire audacious campaign on their Administration's purportedly superior ability to protect America.

Nothing while Barbara Boxer and others twisted in the wind suggesting that Condi Rice had been less than frank with the 9/11 Commission and Senate Confirmation committees.

Nothing while the survivors of 9/11 were tormented as "conspiracy theorists" because they suggested the government know more than it was releasing.

Nothing while George Bush eked out a 2% election victory by running ads of him hugging the daughter of a 9/11 victim.

Alas, in each instance, these "Democrats" were less interested in the truth than in retaining their reputations as congenial beltway insiders, still able to pull down the occasional lobbying contract since they would not be attacked by the RoveMachine as bomb-throwers.

[BlueEyedSon]

1. Yeah they were sell-outs. That's why they were "permitted" to serve

on the Commission.

[KittyWampus]

3. Really Deep Analysis There.

:eyes:

[BlueEyedSon]

5. Bushco runs the show. At first they didn't want the commission.

Then, when they couldn't avoid it, you can be sure they architected it so that the commish would not reveal anything damaging.

Do you doubt it was a whitewash?

Don't confuse brevity with lack of depth.

:)

[KissMeKate]

11. if you disagree, why dont you share an opinion ?

because I think some things, like appointing sellouts who will toe the line and keep quiet on the 9/11 commission, ARE in fact, simple.

[John_H]

22. Actually cryingshame,the dembashers are right on this one.

They were all picked--yes, even Richard Benviniste--because they would play ball when push came to shove. And they did.

What the dembashers don't realize though is that, they did prevent a complete whitewash job.

[KittyWampus]

2. It Was Classified. They Would Have Been Crucified. By The Way,

how did we find out the name of that memo "Bin laden determined to strike" from Condi?

[farmbo]

6. Oh yeah...it's not possible to "leak" information in Washington

eom

[KissMeKate]

12. classified leaks happen all the time.

if they wanted the public to know, they could have worked with the press.

[farmbo]

25. The only persons protected by that bogus "classification" were BC2004.

We needed a hero and we got a bunch of Beltway dufooses.

[Al-CIAda]

4. A funny thing happened on the way to 'The Truth'

A funny thing happened on the way to 'The Truth'

By Karl W. B. Schwarz
Online Journal Guest Writer

September 24, 2004—I am a conservative Republican who has come to the conclusion over the past 12 months that I would not vote for Bush Cheney 2004 under bribe, duress or at gunpoint. I have come to that conclusion for many reasons that are well documented and in some instances is information that is known only to myself and several executives that I work with.

I have written a book about my experiences with the Republican National Committee (RNC) and Bush Cheney, and bring forth facts that I found stunning and disgusting to the point that I am convinced that both the Democratic National Committee (DNC) and RNC, and our political system, are in need a serious house cleaning.....

...eight of the 10 9-11 Commission members (that I know of) are directly benefiting from 9-11 or companies they represent or sit on the board of directors of that pipeline, that big Caspian Oil deal being "open for business" soon, thanks to the US controlled pipeline, so I think we can all rest assured that The Truth Commission on 9-11 has yet to convene. The ones with serious conflicts are Kean, Fielding, Lehman, Thompson, Hamilton, Gorelick, Ben Veniste, and Roemer and just for kicks, a former Lee Hamilton staffer, Christopher Kojm, was in the back office with Zelikow....

http://www.onlinejournal.com/Special_Reports/092404Schwarz/092404schwarz.html

Recent Audio Interview-(Realplayer)

http://mp3.rbnlive.com/Stadt/0410/20041012_Tue_Stadtmiller.ram

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9/11 Commission: The official coverup guide

The Kean Commission came to New York the second week of May for a two-day set of hearings at The New School University. As hundreds of Sept. 11th family members, reporters and curious New Yorkers lined up for airport-style security checks, they received copies of a new 24-page booklet published by NY 9/11 Truth, with help from 911Truth.org.
"Scamming America: The Official 9/11 Cover-up" is named after a quote by former Sen. Max Cleland, who resigned from the commission last November with the words, "Bush is scamming America."
Cleland attacked his own commission after the other members cut a deal to accept highly limited access to CIA reports to the White House that may indicate advance knowledge of the attacks on the part of the Bush administration. "This is a scam," Cleland said. "It's disgusting. America is being cheated."
"As each day goes by," Cleland said, "we learn that this government knew a whole lot more about these terrorists before September 11 than it has ever admitted.... Let's chase this rabbit into the ground. They had a plan to go to war and when 9/11 happened that's what they did; they went to war."
The new booklet features articles about the Kean Commission's breathtaking conflicts of interest and complete failure to ask any of the questions about September 11 that really matter.

Download a PDF of the booklet
http://www.911truth.org/media/9-11_coverup_booklet.pdf


http://www.911truth.org/article.php?story=20040525104145424

[cestpaspossible]

20. Bullshit. Please read the linked articles for yourself

Please read the linked articles in the comment I am responding to for yourself, and examine for yourself, the so-called 'evidence' that Gorelick, Roemer, or Ben-Veniste had some 'conflict of interest' or reason to cover up the truth.

[Al-CIAda]

23. Call 'bullshit' all you want. The simple fact is, they are at the LEAST

complicit.

[cestpaspossible]

24. All I ask is that people make up their own minds,

based on the facts, instead of relying on your overblown, hyperbolic, essentially false rhetoric.

[Al-CIAda]

29. Everything is fine, go back to sleep.

[cestpaspossible]

30. Looking at the facts is not sleeping.

I encourage everyone to look at the facts for themselves and determine for themselves whether your charges are credible.


Why pretend that I am advocating people 'go back to sleep'?


Doesn't this blatant misrepresentation of what I said tend to make all of your representations and characterizations suspect?

[CWebster]

7. And they wanted Roemer to run the show?

Just how would that put us in an advantagous position? Because it might meet with the Right's approval and they wouldn't attack him like they do Dean?

"Dean's victory reflected an intense battle within the Democratic Party. It was not between Left and Right, but between those ensconced in the insular culture of the Washington beltway, and those of us who live in the rest of the country. A battle, if you will, between the insiders and the outsiders. The nature of this battle is epitomized by the comments of consummate Democratic insider, James Carville, who described the DNC competition as "pathetic," and observed, "I wish someone would have taken charge and three or four people would have gotten together in a smoke-filled roomŠThis is supposed to be a rigged deal. You think Republicans would do it this way?" Carville and other "Friends Of Bill" Democratic insiders wanted to maintain the status quo. But their approach hadn't worked in the last two Presidential elections and, therefore, rank-and-file Democrats wanted a change of direction, they wanted the power to shift to the "Democratic wing of the Democratic Party" - to echo Dean's words.

Dean is the consummate outsider. He waged a vigorous campaign for the position, speaking personally to most of the 447 voting members of the DNC. His election reflects the dissatisfaction of Democrats who reside outside the beltway; these heartland Democrats, who actually contributed most of the money that filled the Party's coffers, are angry because the Party didn't take a stronger stance against the war in Iraq and didn't take advantage of the energy and commitment of the rank-and-file and put together a successful campaign in 2004. Republicans made a lot of out of the Dean "roar" that was shown over and over after he lost the Iowa primary; now that he's DNC chair they'll resurrect this clip in an attempt to marginalize him, paint him as out-of-touch with ordinary Democrats. This strategy is unlikely to succeed, because of the reality that most rank-and-file Democrats are angry, ready to erupt with their own roar. They want their Party to present a vigorous opposition to the Bush Administration."


http://www.commondreams.org/views05/0214-31.htm

[Al-CIAda]

8. Those who supported Roemer are HIGHLY suspect IMO -eom

[opihimoimoi]

13. Yup, Dean is the Man.... the answer... the solution....

[mattclearing]

9. I'm not sure what to make of them.

It's obvious that they ignored important questions.

I'm not sure if it was deliberate or not, but I think we should continue pushing for further investigation just based on principle.

[Al-CIAda]

10. If you 'aren't sure' if the avoidance of pertinent questions was

purposeful, the word 'ignored' would not have been used.

To ignore, by definition, is DELIBERATE.


The story keeps changing. There is a conscious effort to actively DISCONNECT the dots -not connect them.

----
NORAD exercises?

[Stand and Fight]

14. Do any of you recall Bob Kerrey on CNN just after the election?

He said something to the effect that the commission knew that the Bush administration had been negligent and was to blame for 9/11, but he -- get this! -- promised to keep quiet about this fact until after the election... I wanted to have the cocksucker tried for treason when I watched him say that! (I'll look for a link...)

Edit to add link:
http://edition.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0411/08/pzn.01.html

Here's an excerpt from the Novemeber 8, 2004 Paula Zahn show:

ZAHN: But what we continue to hear from this administration is that the threat was much too diffuse. There was no way you could zero in on the fact that al Qaeda was going to use jets as bombs and ram them into buildings.

KERREY: That is a straw man.

The president says, if I had only known that 19 Islamic men would come into the United States of America and on the morning of 11 September hijack four American aircraft, fly two into the World Trade Center, one into the Pentagon, and one into an unknown Pennsylvania that crashed in Shanksville, I would have moved heaven and earth. That's what he said.

Mr. President, you don't need to know that. This is an Islamic jihadist movement that has been organized since the early 1990s, declared war on the United States twice, in '96 and '98. You knew they were in the United States. You were warned by the CIA. You knew in July they were inside the United States. You were told again by briefing officers in August that it was a dire threat.

And what did you do? Nothing, so far as we could see on the 9/11 Commission. Now, that's in the report. And we took an oath not to talk about it during the campaign, I think correctly so, to increase the capacity of that commission's report to be heard by the people's Congress.

But the report, I think, it's difficult for a challenger. If I had been the challenger, it's difficult to make that case when you are running against an incumbent. He can stand back and say, oh, you're just grousing.

ZAHN: Oh, we couldn't connect the dots is what we heard.

[NYCGirl]

15. Yes, they had to make a deal with the Administration not to release

the second part of the report until after the election in order to have the commission at all.

[Stand and Fight]

16. Not exactly what I'm talking about NYC, but I recall that too...

These guys are just fucking sick!

[NYCGirl]

17. What I'm saying is that the people on the commission shouldn't be

held accountable — the administration should be. The people working on the commission basically had their hands tied.

[Stand and Fight]

18. I don't agree with that...

They did not have to keep silent... If you read what I posted, you will see that there was NOTHING keeping them from saying something to the effect, "Be sure to read chapter 8 in the Commission Report, because you'll be shocked to find out... etc, etc..." There was nothing holding him back from saying that. Give me a break -- they should both be held accountable.

[NYCGirl]

19. You mean the report that was in all the bookstores available for anyone to

read? Or the second part of the report that was classified by the administration?

[Al-CIAda]

21. They KNOW the truth. They are FAILING us and preventing JUSTICE.

This is horrific. The entire government is CORRUPT.

We have NO representation and in fact are TARGETS for elimination by our OWN government.

[Stand and Fight]

26. The report that was available for everyone to read.

I read it... It is definitely there, but the problem is that not only do most Americans NOT read, they don't comprehend what they read -- that includes our hack-job no-good media whores.

[Cocoa]

27. I can't stand them, but...

but I trust Kristin Breitweiser and the other families, and she seems ok with them, at least publicly.

Also, some revelations did come from their investigation, despite their failure to hold anyone accountable for anything.

[farmbo]

31. I'd love to hear Kristin's take on this latest revelation...

Nothing on Google yet

[Sleepless In NY]

farmbo... Kristen's reaction

When Max Clelland quit alot of people were advocating for Kristen to take Max's place. Instead Tom Daschle appointed Bob Kerrey. A bad move for all of us. The following is Kristen's comments,taken from the article: "Bush team tried to suppress pre-9/11 report into al-Qa'ida"

"The latest pages note that of the FAA's 105 daily intelligence summaries between 1 April 2001 and 10 September 2001, 52 of them mentioned Osama bin Laden, al-Qa'ida, or both. The report also concludes that officials did not expand the use of in-flight air marshals or tighten airport screening for weapons."

"Kristin Bretweiser, whose husband was killed in the World Trade Centre, said yesterday the newly released details undermined testimony from Condoleezza Rice, the former national security adviser, who told the commission that information about al-Qa'ida's threats seen by the administration was "historical in nature".

"She told The Independent: "There were 52 threats that were mentioned. These were present threats - they were not historical. There were steps that could have been taken. Marshals could have been put on planes that spring. Condoleezza Rice's testimony is undermined."

http://www.911citizenswatch.org/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=461

Alot of very interesting articles on this site.

[farmbo]

33. God Speed Kristin...It ain't over yet!

eom

[G_j]

28. the commission was a cheering squad for the PATRIOT Act

& we can partially thank them for the legislation heading to the Senate which would allow Homeland Security to suspend all laws/Constitution. :thumbsdown:

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