**Senate to vote on Michael Chertoff nomination 4PM Today**

[Freddie Stubbs]

http://www.c-span.org/watch/cspan2_wm.asp?Cat=TV&Code=CS2

[Skidmore]

1. Are we watching them polish the rubberstamp off

all day?

[Freddie Stubbs]

2. You don't think that ANY Democrats will oppose?

:shrug:

[Skidmore]

3. I hope someone does.

[ashmanonar]

4. sure, the same ones who have been.

but will it matter? the repubs most likely have the gusto to push chertoff through. unless they have some major league dissenssion in their ranks.

[Freddie Stubbs]

5. There are enough Democrats in the Senate to filibuster

It only take 41 votes to do so, and there are 44 Democrats and one independent who usually votes with the Democrats.

[ashmanonar]

7. and i think we'll get some repub support on this.

there are enough paleos in the senate to probably hold chertoff off. if we can get them together.

[Freddie Stubbs]

8. What Republicans do you think will oppose this?

:shrug:

[ashmanonar]

9. i'm not real sure.

but i do know that they're out there, and that bush has probably alienated these traditional fiscal conservatives.. maybe find someone who follows congress a little more closely? :shrug:

[Freddie Stubbs]

12. I seriously doubt that any Republican Senator will oppose this

Not one of them opposed Gonzales and Rice. This one seems to be a lot less controversial.

[Freddie Stubbs]

16. The vote was just held

No one voted against conformation.

[ashmanonar]

17. NOONE?

you gotta be fucking kidding me.


ugh. this means war.

[Freddie Stubbs]

18. 98-0. Here is the roll call:

http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=109&session=1&vote=00010

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[napi21]

10. I'm sure he'll be OK'd. I don't know why anyone would want this job

anyway! I also don't think this is a nomination we should fight. Better to fight the stupid budget, and SS reform. We'd have some Pub allies on those 2 issues!!!

It's stupid to try to fight EVERYTHING. Pick your battles.

[r3dhawk]

11. why fight?

Is he even a bad choice? I understand the opposition to gonzo and condi but as far as I know, he seems like an alright guy

[genius]

15. Hope you like breathing underwater.

You don't seem to care if anyone else is tortured.

[fnottr]

13. seeing as torture boy and condiliar were confirmed

I really can't see any fillibuster over Chertoff coming up. Anyway, I haven't really been following this, how is he worse than anyone else * might put up?

I mean, I know he supports *'s policies, that goes without saying, but has he done the equivalent of lying us into a war or advising the use of torture?

[ticapnews]

14. Biden, Kerry and Boxer just voted yes...

Patty Murray as well...I just tuned in, but this might be a unanimous confirmation...
edit to add: Dayton voted aye also.

[realFedUp]

19. how do you separate the turds from the whey

well, all these guys are about the
same caliber...they come with a record
of lying, covering up and breaking
laws. Chertoff was just another,
and all Dems should still not vote for
this behavior and the behavioree
for the highly important positions
they are nominated for.

[B0S0X87]

20. I don't get the uproar over this

Condi: maybe. Alberto: hell yeah. But c'mon people, you gotta pick your battles. Even Boxer, Kennedy and Feingold voted 'aye.'

[LittleClarkie]

21. Did they get the memo Levins was demanding

I hope so. Levins was making the point that they need to be given the info to do their jobs.

And I agree. We need to pick our battles. That may be why everyone wasn't going nuts over this. Not much uproar really. Almost no attention here yesterday.

[fnottr]

22. I think this was smart

I don't know of anything especially odious about Chertoff, and this take a little wind out of their constant cries that we're 'obstructionists'.

[GreenInNC]

23. 98-0

Sure sounds like an opposition party

[Freddie Stubbs]

24. Opposition means more than just saying 'no' to everything

It is necessary to provide alternatives and to pick our battles.

[Mitt Chovick]

25. 98-0 Did Hillary vote?

I remember she was one of the few, if only, to vote against Chertoff as judge -- and that was personal :-)

Not that I don't think that was a good thing

[Freddie Stubbs]

26. Yes. Only Baucus and Specter did not vote

http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=109&session=1&vote=00010