BEWARE of polling group "Datar & Associates"

[Mabus]

Last week in Lawrence, Kansas a group calling itself "Datar & Associates" did polling on issues like gay marriage. Datar is actually Data Targeting, Inc. out of Gainesville, Florida. Come to find out Data Targeting, Inc. is in bed with state realtor associations to make sure Development-Friendly (including members of the RRR) candidates get elected on LOCAL LEVELS! The upcoming elections are for city commissioners and school board members.

from: http://www.realtor.org/eomag.nsf/pages/techvendorsp04 about 15 paragraphs down:

Last year Data Targeting and Orlando (a realty business), formed a another for-profit subsidiary called Orracle, a joint venture with Data Targeting Inc. of Gainesville, Fla., to create a political management system that can be used with equal success by professional organizations, trade associations, committees, political parties, and candidates.

Orracle is a sophisticated data mining product that helps forecast how individual voters feel about certain hot-button issues and how they are likely to vote. In its three years on the market, it has generated outstanding results at the polls and begun to pay back the association's nearly $200,000 start-up investment, says Jennings. Numbered among its current clients are the Kansas and Nebraska associations as well as the Lexington-Bluegrass, Raleigh and Pinellas Sun-coast associations."from:

http://www.realtor.org/eomag.nsf/pages/techvendorsp04

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Any information on this group or groups being posted here would be appreciated. The owner of Data Targeting is Pat Bainter. According to OpenSecrets.org he is a Bush donor. A really scary ad on the Nebraska Realtors page said,

Who knows elections better than the state of Florida? Pat Bainter, President of Data Targeting, Inc. in Gainesville, Florida will provide political affairs training as he describes the Top Five Mistakes Campaigns Make. Bainter has a tremendous track record of success in Florida politics and has worked nationally on ballot issues and federal campaigns. source: http://www.nebraskarealtors.com/News7.htm

The bottom line: These guys are in bed with the local developers and they are trying to capitalize on wedge issues (state, national and local) to tailor their Manchurian candidates' messages. Then they takeover, using GOP tactics, in blue areas.

A recent defense of one of this "stealth" candidates on a local forum used some interesting words (bear in mind this city went 60% K/E). They are trying to find a way to appeal to the anti-Bush people.


Local: Bracciano's the Real Deal Thursday, 2/10/05, at 4:02 p.m.

I'm a former Kansan (trapped in Florida), but am still interested in how things are going, so I check back occasionally.

Heard/saw a few (negative) things about Tom Bracciano's run for the city commission and wanted to offer my two cents.

I've known Tom for almost ten years, and he's the real deal. When he says he'll listen, he means it, when he says he's interested in improving the community, he means that too.

I can't vote in Kansas (now that I've voted in Florida I'm forever changed), but if I could, I'd vote Bracciano. I'd encourage anyone whose really interested in seeing significant grass-roots progress to give him your consideration, if not your vote. He's just plain good people and I know he'll do a great job...

source: http://www.larryville.com/forum/index.cgi?frames=n;read=10085

[Ian David]

1. Maybe we can screw with DATAR Associates?

Tell them we want more pollution, more animal testing, and anything else that's un-popular.

We could give them fake demographic information. Like that we're Black communists from Alaska with nine children, no cars, our profession is blacksmith, we have no television, our hobby is skydiving, we vacation in Guam, our religion is Wiccan,

Or just enter things at random.

And do it over and over again.

[La Femme]

2. Data Targeting

from our trusty yellow pages..... Data Targeting [phone]

[Mabus]

3. Well to add insult to injury

They "outsource" their data analysis to Brainhunter, a Canadian company.

So, here's the scenario, this Florida company conducts developer-friendly (via local and state realtor associations) polling to help local and state stealth GOP RRR candidates' craft their messages by sending all the data to Canada to be analyzed to find the hot button issues and the language (this guy's the "real deal" and "grassroots support) to appeal to the vast majority who don't know enough to look for funding sources.

Thanks for your help. I've gathered candidate financial statements for the past three election cycles and I'm entering it into a database. So far, I'm finding that there are an awful lot of outside developer interests that are pouring money into our local city and county elections to try to stop our smart growth agenda.

[nodictators]

4. Don't respond to any poll.

All of these outfits gather your info and put into their databases. Then, they sell it to others. Next, the others match it up with other info on you.

Finally, through data mining, they draw specious, often false, conclusions about you.

And Then You Lose!