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displacedtexan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-05 12:41 PM
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Dems have got to stop apologizing for Howard Dean!
THERE IS NOTHING --REPEAT--NOTHING-- TO APOLOGIZE FOR!

That guy on MSNBC right now (Ibarra), who's supposed to be defending Dean, keeps apologizing for Dean's statements, and he's letting the repuke women smear and lie about Dean!

I was not a Dean fan during the primary, but, DAMN IT!, Howard Dean is a good, decent man!

I am sick and tired of Dems not fighting back!

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mattclearing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-05 12:43 PM
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1. Amen. n/t
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DemocracyInaction Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-05 12:44 PM
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2. Warning to asses like him: This serves absolutely no purpose
I am very suspect of those who don't shut there mouth and get on with moving us forward or even us standing dead still but rather shove us back into total oblivian. This kind of stuff is going to come back and haunt and it's helping the GOP already start destroying us. These type of people should be cut off by the DNC.
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mattclearing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-05 12:46 PM
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5. Thankfully, now they will be.
Dean's shot at the NY GOP guy yesterday was a warning shot. People who make outrageous assertions about Democrats and the Democratic Party can expect a swift verbal response.
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tsuki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-05 12:52 PM
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11. The M$M smearathon is in retaliation for the GOP call out. Expect it.
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mattclearing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-05 01:13 PM
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15. Dean will keep baiting them. Let them fight Dean.
Dean is vastly more intelligent than any of these people, and I have complete faith in his judgment.
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tsuki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-05 02:37 PM
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17. They cannot fight him. They're out of ammo. They have to smear him.
And they have plenty of smearers, like Monica Crowley, who worked for Nixon, and then Faux News.
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Roxy66 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-05 12:45 PM
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3. Did you really expect anything different?
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lancdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-05 12:46 PM
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4. What statements is he apologizing for?
Stuff he said during the primaries? If so, who gives a fuck? That was an eternity ago. Geez!
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displacedtexan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-05 12:48 PM
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8. No, it was recent remarks.
It wasn't about comments made during the primary.

And they played that damned scream video again!

And Ron Reagan was completely worthless during this exchange!
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Guaranteed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-05 02:42 PM
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20. Dude. They're butting their heads against granite.
We've taken over the party, you stupid media whores! Don't you GET IT? Dean's there, and he's there to stay. And you're going to listen to what he has to say.
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vpigrad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-05 12:47 PM
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6. Apologize for picking Dean, because...
he is too moderate to excite the base of the party. That's what they really should be apologizing for.
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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-05 12:48 PM
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7. Who the heck is this Ibarra anyway? Never heard of him.
Dems needs a group of designated spokes people for a while until the messages are honed and the language is learned.
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-05 12:49 PM
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9. that's what i'm wondering
never heard of him.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-05 12:50 PM
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10. It will take a while
but I susppect he is still a McLauffie boy

Speaking off I don't watch any of the media no more so thanks, let us know when they have somebody on that can hand them their head
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-05 02:50 PM
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21. A Mickey Ibarra was a Clinton appointee for something.
Our Democrats are not up to date, they need to be up to date on latest gossip before they ever go on the air.

And yes, they need to stop apologizing.
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JohnnyCougar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-05 01:01 PM
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12. What's his e-mail address?
Who does he work for?

Every time we catch some Dem on TV being a wimp, we should bombard him with e-mails telling him to stand up for himself. If they're so weak that some Republican moron will scare them, they will be easily encouraged by a barrage of e-mails.

I don't have MSNBC....who is this guy, and what is his e-mail address?
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shance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-05 01:14 PM
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16. Great point JC***
Edited on Thu Feb-17-05 01:14 PM by shance
Lets email the "Democratic" member, who was probably invited him on because he would be a Dean apologist.

Its time they stop attacking quality, honest leaders. And, its our job to remind them every day.

We should email MSNBC as well.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-05 01:09 PM
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13. You are right, and see my post about how AAR does this, too.
Let him do his thing, and we will be ok. Yes, he is a good man.
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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-05 01:09 PM
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14. Was it this Mickey Ibarra guy?
http://www.shsu.edu/~pin_www/T@S/2000/MickeyI.html
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Guaranteed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-05 02:39 PM
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18. Awww, man.
I guess we DO still have work to do. Some truly STILL...don't...get it!
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Guaranteed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-05 02:40 PM
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19. Can Dean fire this guy? Who is he?
LOL

No, seriously, that guy needs to never be on TV again. He's fucking everything up.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-05 02:55 PM
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22. This Ibarra guy should be very knowledgeable....a site.
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info being Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-05 03:33 PM
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23. People like Dean bring out the true colors...
of most Dems. Most of them aren't Progressive at all. So naturally, they apologize.
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