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elshiva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-05 11:34 PM
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Will McCain run for president in 2008?
Just wondering since Cheney keeps saying he won't run in '08. (Should we believe that? How can we believe anything he says?)
Theories running among friends that McCain supported Dubya to secure '08 nomination. Is this true?
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Placebo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-05 11:36 PM
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1. I doubt he will...
He'll be old by then, and he's not loved by large portions of the conservative base.
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elshiva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-05 11:51 PM
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5. OK, good point. Freepers hate him.
But, can we believe that Cheney won't run? Can we have that in writing with his other hand on the Bible? I'm tired of his crap.
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-05 11:37 PM
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2. I think he supported Dubya to secure Rove.
Must be why Rove is currently running around 'rebranding' himself these days.
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independentchristian Donating Member (393 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-05 11:40 PM
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3. He's a Moonie
I won't be supporting him
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elshiva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-05 11:49 PM
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4. I'd never support a Republican for president.
Just would like to know more about who might run for the repubs. I don't like McCain. Really, I'd rather he didn't run.

"I'm just like Luke Skywalker trying to get out of the DeathStar."--John McCain, 2000 campaign. This guy is creepy.
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-05 12:28 AM
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10. What do you mean by that? nt
nt
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-05 12:44 AM
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13. oh please tell me you aren't a Larouche supporter
because thats exactly what they say. McCain may be a shmaeful sellout but he's not a moonie.
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-05 12:03 AM
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6. Cheney is a high-IQ reptile-brained powermonger --
Edited on Fri Feb-18-05 12:13 AM by Old Crusoe
-- who is by parts smart, lucky, rich, shrewd, sinister, and dishonest. He'd be outflanked for the nomination, losing in Iowa to McCain and Hagel, in New Hampshire to McCain, and in South Carolina to Frist.

He knows he'd be slaughtered in the GOP primaries and is content to sit back, smirk his fat ass off, and count his money into deep old age.



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elshiva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-05 12:27 AM
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9. Good point.
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Liberal Gramma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-05 12:26 AM
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7. If he doesn't, then he sold his integrity cheap
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elshiva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-05 12:31 AM
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11. Dang angry with McCain and I can't stand Repubs, but
I still think McCain should have got the Repuke nomination in 2000. The fact that that chose the candidate with the lowest IQ tell us something about Repubs...
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elshiva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-05 12:32 AM
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12. Don't like McCain and hate Repukes, but
I still think McCain should have got the Repuke nomination in 2000. The fact that that chose the candidate with the lowest IQ tell us something about Repubs...
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-05 12:27 AM
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8. Yes. Why else would he have been so whore-like in 2004? nt
nt
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ragin_acadian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-05 01:16 AM
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14. stir it up, get it out, start slingin'
McCain was part of the Keating five in putting pressure on Edwin Gray, chief S&L regulator, to not investigate Charles Keating's Lincoln Saving's and Loan until 1989 when it was discovered that the 28 branches of Lincoln S&L were worth negative 948 million dollars. after the US and California spent nearly 2 billion dollars bailing out the loans for Keating's S&L(and criminal and civil charges filed against Keating), McCain and four others went before the Senate Ethics committee for pressuring Gray to ignore Keating's S&L in exchange for donations to campaign treasuries and political committees.

you might remember Keating as the fallwell-supporting character portrayed by James Cromwell in the people vs. larry flynt.

let's get this information out to as many people as we can, as well as what happened to newt's first two wives before those two pieces of excrement can get to the republican primaries.
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elshiva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-19-05 12:01 AM
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18. Old S&L crapola, but I didn't know McCain was involved.
Oh, I hope to God Newt won't run. He is sooo evil.
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ragin_acadian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-19-05 04:44 PM
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20. well, i think it would set the case that mccain is scummy too
Edited on Sat Feb-19-05 04:44 PM by ragin_acadian
all they need to do about newt is bring up that info that he left his first wife because she had cancer, got an anullment from the catholic church, then remarried and left his second wife because she had M.S. gingrich's defective disposable wives wouldn't exactly sit well with the moral values and fundie voters, maybe we can get them to agree with us that the newt is evil.

you're probably right, the mccain/keating/S&L thing wouldn't make headlines in the news because no one remembers or cares about scandals in the 80's & 90's.

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elshiva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-19-05 10:17 PM
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25. Newt is absolute scum for kicking his wives when
they were down. He is also a sexist homophobe hater. Scary to think this man might run for president.
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ragin_acadian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-05 12:30 AM
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27. that is the nature of republicans:
the world and it's inhabitants are your soccer field when you're on top.

i thought it was damn near justice when ohio secured the shrub, then lost 300,000 jobs the third week of november, they didn't realize that the corporate masters bankrolling bush would kick them in the stomach as soon as they voted their precious corporate tool back in.

i probably shouldn't think like that, but sometimes people have to get pinched before they wake up.
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Califooyah Operative Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-05 01:19 AM
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15. I think so.
I think its up to the straight republican hacks to stop him, frist, bush, etc.
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Jamastiene Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-05 01:30 AM
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16. No
He'd never win in the confederate states and they plan on continuing the Bush dynasty (or should I say die nasty because they just won't fucking go away) with Jeb Bush. It's beginning to look like a horror movie. I hope we don't end up with King George Herbert Walker Adolph Jeb Prescott Bush the IV'th one day.
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LdyGuique Donating Member (610 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-05 01:37 AM
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17. McCain wll run
Cheney won't run -- he has a very bad heart (it's been stated repreatedly that he won't run)

I believe that McCain and Jebbie will be running

(Remember Jeb signed the PNAC statement)
I think Buchanan will try another run -- but probably as an independent

The best way to watch for possible wannabes is the amount of camera newsbite time that they garner over each and every little issue -- building public recognition

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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-19-05 12:03 AM
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19. McCain will be very ill by 2008
He's been going through cancer treatment recently and I bet he won't run for health reasons.
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BlueManDude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-19-05 05:09 PM
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21. Yes and he's already won the Russert-Imus primary
those two hacks have been shilling for him for years. Throw Mike Barnicle in there too.
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KissMeKate Donating Member (741 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-19-05 05:10 PM
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22. if he does I hope we dont get any democratic crossover.
eom
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JHBowden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-19-05 05:11 PM
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23. If he does, he is toast in the primary like Guiliani
The Republicans will take the risk and nominate a hard conservative like Owens or Ehrlich.
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deadparrot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-19-05 05:15 PM
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24. He'll be well into his 70s by that time, right?
Edited on Sat Feb-19-05 05:16 PM by deadparrot
Plus, he's sick. And he's far too moderate for the neoconservative wing of the party.
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Igel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-19-05 10:53 PM
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26. I hope not. I think so. It won't matter. n/t
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Yupster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-05 01:26 AM
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28. I think he will run if
his health will allow it.

I think once you get bitten by the presidential ambition bug, it's hard to give it up.
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Czolgosz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-05 01:38 AM
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29. I really think it's down to Frist and Jeb nm
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