Dean/Perle Debate Recap (describes event + shoe throwing)

[ailsagirl]

Well, that was definitely an experience.

Did you hear about the flying shoe?

Maybe I should back up. Tonight there was a debate between Howard Dean and Richard Perle in Portland, OR. You all know who Dean is. Perle is one of the architects of PNAC, the group that planned the invasion of Iraq long before 9/11. He's a neocon's neocon, one who will unapologetically defend their aims without bothering to disguise it in froofy talk like Bush does.

The debate started with each person giving a fifteen-minute opening statement. Perle's was highly disciplined but relatively simplistic. 9/11 changed everything, we didn't take terrorists seriously beforehand, they saw us as weak, they attacked us, and it was up to us to preemptively attack the states that harbored them to protect ourselves.

Somewhere in there he made reference to the military loss of life, and how he's recently become aware that Oregon has suffered disproportionately in that regard. He then proceeded to express how he felt for us in return.

I imagine that Perle is a pretty smart guy. Maybe he isn't, but in this case I have to believe that he knew that the audience would see that comment as crass. I think Perle's got a bit of a nasty streak in him.

You'd expect it would make someone want to go ballistic.

http://www.museworld.com/archives/001697.html

[Patchuli]

1. That's funny as hell!

And I'm happy to hear that the repubs weren't buying it all either. There is hope?

I love that guy getting two shots at Perle with his shoe! I wish he
hadn't missed!!! heheheeee

[elshiva]

2. LOL! Perle IS a Bush whore!

Look's like Dean got him good.

[madfloridian]

3. Can you imagine how hard it must have been to handle Perle....

and not speak in terms of policy, not make statements that would make the Dems cringe. Imagine how hard to keep your own beliefs but to remember you are speaking for the party as its chair? Sounds like Dean did a pretty good job.

[ailsagirl]

4. I think, by all accounts, that Dean definitely came out ahead

I'm glad no one (repug persuasion) threw a shoe at HIM-- and, yes, too bad Bruce the Shoe-Thrower missed!!

You can't make this stuff up.

:dunce:

[cosmicdot]

5. Howard Dean to Richard Perle on 02/17/05

"Defense is a lot broader than swaggering around saying you're going to kick Saddam's butt."
http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20050218/ap_on_re_us/dean_perle_debate_6


Patriot

vs.


Traitor *

* http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&rls=GGLD,GGLD:2004-33,GGLD:en&q=perle+sabotage

[elshiva]

6. Perle is a total blowhard Bushbot.

[ailsagirl]

7. He LOOKS like he's part of that crowd...

corruption personified-- all flabby and pale and ugly, as if he rarely sees the light of day. As if he crawled out from under some rock...

:puke:

(I'd never seen him before tonight when the debate was televised on C-SPAN)

[madfloridian]

8. HD to RP: "You just did something I won't let you get away with anymore."

I will have to watch the tape for the exact words, but very similar to this:

"You just restated a question,tried to change the subject, and as chairman I am not going to let you frame the agenda anymore..."

I will get the exact words..would make another great sig line. Dean is good for those.

:hi: to cosmicdot.