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Imagevision Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-19-05 01:12 PM
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Condi & Bush; "If we only knew we would have moved heaven and earth."
The story that is more damming are the 52 pre-911 warnings. Remember 3000 people died because Bush was on vacation and instituting an "anything but Clinton" approach to the administration. You want to get the American people insensed and behind some movement to "impeach" * - This Is The Story.

In the mean time - the 52 warnings have come and gone. The bulk of the American people don't even know that they existed. What - the story was alive for a day and a half.

Bush goes to war with faulty intel (Tenet) and instead of firing him,? Bush awards him with a medal of honor?

The 911 Commission report is on the coffee table of "patriotic Americans" and it is billed as the "final" report. They wanted us to believe it was final. That's why they made it affordable to anyone who wanted to purchase it. Get it out - make people believe and put it behind us.

Why didn't the 52 pre-911 warnings get into the report? Because - well ya think - it might have cast some doubt or blame on Bush?

Oh - we'll release it - but after Nov. 2nd. After we're comfy back in the White House And you know - people will be so sick and tired of all this politicking - we'll make it go away fast.

We'll get them upset about SS. We'll get them upset about 150 social and environmental programs getting cut from the budget. And just in case those don't work? - we'll throw in a reporter/male escort in the White House press corps, then? - it's off to Europe.


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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-19-05 01:14 PM
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1. We are doomed.
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Sydnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-19-05 01:15 PM
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2. Is there an article to go with this post? n/t
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-19-05 01:17 PM
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4. Here is a link to a blog article I wrote about the topic he raises.
Conservative Con: The Claim That the Bush Admin. Couldn't Have Prevented the Attacks of September 11, 2001

http://www.moveleft.com/moveleft_essay_2005_02_13_conservative_con_the_claim_that_the_bush_admin._couldnt_have_preveneted_attacks_of_sept_11_2001.asp


The blog article links to the New York Times and the Center for American Progress.

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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-19-05 01:15 PM
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3. Bush has wanted to privatize Social Security since
he ran for Congress in 1978.

It isn't just to distract from his failure to prevent the attack of Sept. 11, 2001.


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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-19-05 01:24 PM
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5. It's not only him.. The Pubs have wanted to eliminate SS since it started.
They just never had the opportunity to have a shill in the WH, total control of the House and the Senate, AND the Media!
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-19-05 05:05 PM
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12. I bet you if
one of their own invented SS that they wouldn't want to destory it. :eyes: We wouldn't even have this conversation. I think, as Mr. Malloy pointed out on his show not long ago, that the reason BushCo are so bent on this is because a very rich democrat invented it and Bush wants to be seen like him. He's jealous. And he already admitted to borrowing some money before. I think he wants to "private" SS because then he can borrow more money from it for other things.
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fooj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-19-05 01:47 PM
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6. What I hear Imagevision saying is that there is NO ACCOUNTABILITY!
And, perhaps, we are just as much to blame for that! They BEHAVE the way they are ALLOWED to behave. We've let them get away with EVERYTHING! It's actually embarrassing! No other criminal in this country is afforded the luxury of a "free ride"...Just because they occupy the WH-it doesn't mean that they haven't behaved like CRIMINALS!
All of this hand wringing isn't going to remedy our situation. Action and demanding accountability is our only answer. They have played us for fools...and their "fools" we have become. It's maddening.
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Imagevision Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-19-05 02:40 PM
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7. Fooj - They'll take responsibility for anything. Accountability?
I find it criminal the way the Rove machine simply instructs Bush to change to non-issue matters when confronted with ligitimate wrong doings with this admisistration

Name it? -- 9-11 - Ohio voting problems {Machines-Blackwell etc.) - medicare budgeted at $400 billion only to be updated to the current $723 billion and I don't wish to bore anyone with what's already known.

Main point, they're getting away with anything-everything with no input objections/investigations from anyone! This country is in peril, like a bully, eventually when you keep pushing people around? -- eventually someone is going to push back in some shape manner or form.

Keep in mind the WTC's were hit twice, and the second time with a vengeance!
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-19-05 05:06 PM
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13. How can they be
held accountable if nobody on their side believes them and upholds them as hero's? It's all brainwashing.
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GreenPoet64 Donating Member (897 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-19-05 03:21 PM
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8. When I realize this story received a little more than a whisper
in the mainstream press, I wondered what is it going to take to break through the wall of resistance in the ninds of those who supported * in this election. I wonder if cognitive dissonance is strongly a factor that nothing will shake them from their support of this man and his actions.
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marcologico Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-19-05 03:24 PM
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9. Probably, nothing. Chimp could be a transexual martian and they'd still
be "praying" for him.

Fortunately, the press is less gullible, if only slightly, so there's some hope.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-19-05 05:08 PM
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14. Sometimes I watch
Scarborough just to see what he talks about and when this info came out I watched his show to see if he talked about it. He had a five minute segment on it in the beginning and then that was it. He had this whole macho tough guy attitude about it and was blaming the FAA and not once mentioned BushCo. I think it's all hopeless. :cry:
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Gold Metal Flake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-19-05 04:45 PM
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10. I do not understand...
...why the Bushco gutting of our antiterror infrastructure prior 9/11 was not made a point of contention by the Dems during the run-up to the election. They should have POUNDED the pukes with that. Instead, we kept hearing about "security moms" and "I feel safer with Bush" etc. instead. It was a huge missed opportunity, and it allowed the foster and perpetuation of a lie about Bushco and national security pre-9/11.
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global1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-19-05 04:57 PM
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11. Hey Imagevision - This Sounds Exactly Like Something I Would Say.....
Thanks for digging this up. You should have just posted a link to this post.
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me b zola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-19-05 06:00 PM
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15. Where's the outrage?
I wonder this everyday. If only we had as many threads on this topic as there are on JimmyJeff. Although I have to say, we should follow ANY scandal that takes hold and puts their feet to the fire. Hoping for the domino effect.

Do you know if they have published the newly released testimony??

Makes me wonder how damning the redactions are.
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Supersedeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-19-05 07:12 PM
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16. the focus is on Daytona, Jacko, and Iraqi PM's
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-19-05 07:22 PM
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17. The Bush Junta Fascists control.
The Senate, House, and the Whore Media while most of the Dems "go along to get along". The U.S.A. has been an Oligarchy from it's inception and has now turned into a Fascist State. I predict that within two years it will be a Fascist Police State, after the next attack within Amerika.
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