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curse10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-04 10:39 PM
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Kerry's Globe Problem: Some of it may not be his fault
http://slate.msn.com/id/2094235/

I'm not that surprised- the Globe is always giving Kerry shit, but this has some interesting quotes.

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The advertising, the speeches in Iowa refashioned John Kerry in a—as a much more authentic person. And now the question is, as he goes back to New Hampshire, a neighboring state of Massachusetts, do the people of New Hampshire, who have been often affected by the coverage from across the border, are they going to see John Kerry less as a patrician kind of elitist liberal and more as the Vietnam war hero who's a working-class tribune?"

—CNN commentator Jeff Greenfield on John Kerry's Iowa caucus victory, Jan. 19.

It's counterintuitive that John Kerry should expect more hostile press in Massachusetts, where repeatedly he has won re-election, than in the corn fields of Iowa. The Boston Globe, which sets the tone for political coverage in Massachusetts and much of New England, should logically cheer on its hometown boy as he reaches for the big brass ring. Ideologically, the Globe and Kerry occupy roughly the same left-of-center niche, and through three Senate elections the Globe has never failed to endorse him. And as decades of adoring Kennedy coverage have demonstrated, the Globe doesn't blush at playing the "homer" (journalese for a reporter who roots openly for local sports teams, institutions, and civic leaders).

But screwy as it may sound, Greenfield's analysis is correct. Kerry really does get unfavorable coverage in the Globe. The paper has exposed relentlessly, and mocked frequently, Kerry's least attractive character traits. Granting that the news pages almost always follow scrupulously the profession's strict guidelines for objective reporting—and that opinions and attitudes inside a newsroom are never entirely uniform—it is nonetheless the case that, broadly speaking, the Boston Globe has it in for John Kerry.

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XanaDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-04 10:43 PM
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1. Hi curse10!
Great article!

:hi:
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curse10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-04 10:44 PM
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4. Hey LC!
I've made a personal vow to only post positive articles about Kerry and ignore all the poo being reported here in GD! This is the first post! :-)
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XanaDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-04 10:46 PM
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8. Good idea.
I'll look for your posts.


Any news from NH yet on our guy? :)
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curse10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-04 10:48 PM
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12. Well, I'm heading there on Saturday
and I might ditch school to be there Tuesday. I'm keeping my fingers crossed and my spirits high!
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Zomby Woof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-04 10:51 PM
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18. SKULL & BONES!!!!!!
Bilderbergers! Masons!! Trilateral Commission! :tinfoilhat:
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XanaDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-04 10:58 PM
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30. Okay you left out
Protocols of the Elders of Zion!

The sky is falling!
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Zomby Woof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-04 11:59 PM
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35. dammit!
I also forgot the Shriners! :D
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Wonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-04 12:07 AM
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37. John Kerry is a Shriner? Not according to google...
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-04 12:18 AM
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Wonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-04 11:35 PM
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34. on edit - Note to self: RTFA before posting. nt
Edited on Wed Jan-21-04 11:37 PM by Wonk
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hellhathnofury Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-04 10:43 PM
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2. Maybe they just can't stand him pretending to be something he's not.
A Democrat with a spine.

Mamma know's best.
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curse10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-04 10:44 PM
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5. Nice attack!
Good job!
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hellhathnofury Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-04 10:45 PM
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7. Thank ye kindly!
It's infightin' season.
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curse10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-04 10:47 PM
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9. Yeah, I try not to do that
I try to have some class and not spend my night looking for Dean threads to take down. I could do it, rather easily, but I'm trying to stay positive. I know, it's silly, but I like my candidate, I don't just hate everyone else's.
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hellhathnofury Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-04 10:49 PM
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14. Oh, cry me a river.
This isn't exactly a positive thread, your attacking the Globe for being less than flattering of Kerry, your guy. Fair ball! And I did read the article.

I like my candidate very much.
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curse10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-04 10:50 PM
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17. Fair ball, my ass
:eyes:

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hellhathnofury Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-04 10:52 PM
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20. Peace on earth. Good huntin!
;-)
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trumad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-04 10:53 PM
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22. The Globe deserves to be attacked head on for anything about Kerry
Click on the Howler links and if you think the Globe is fair then you're blind!
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-04 12:42 AM
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44. Is the Globe running for President?
Your point doesn't hold water....if you've read any of the ridiculous articles attacking Kerry in the Globe, you'd understand

I agree curse10...much better to keep it positive. I see no value, as the Party to stop Bush, in tearing down any of the candidates...that's what the RNC is in business for.

I really don't understand the Globe. I read it religiously in the 70's. It was the best damn paper in the country. Definitely a liberal/progressive publication.

The fact that the NYT owns the paper has a lot to do with the attack op/eds that emanate from Morrisey Blvd, IMHO.
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hellhathnofury Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-04 12:44 AM
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45. "in tearing down any of the candidates"
HAHA...that's funny, ask the voters of Iowa what they saw.
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-04 01:21 AM
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47. I think Iowans saw
the next President of the United States win their caucus....

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XanaDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-04 10:50 PM
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15. I know, I hear ya...
I love when some say, "post something positive about *your* candidate", and then, even when you do, it still does not matter.

Well, at least Kerry's record is open.
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XanaDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-04 10:48 PM
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10. That's funny.
Considering he has used his spine to battle Rethugs from Nixon, Reagan, on down...

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hellhathnofury Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-04 10:50 PM
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16. I haven't seen it in awhile, maybe you should send a search party.
I'm electing the man for what he is now, not what he was 10 or 20 years ago.
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XanaDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-04 10:54 PM
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27. Good for you. Some want to see a person's
record from long ago to see how they have voted, stood, etc.

Diff'rent strokes. Go with what you prefer.
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BeatleBoot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-04 10:53 PM
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24. Spineless
Bronze Star, Silver Star, Combat V and three Purple Hearts.

Spineless? Not in my book.

Going after the Bushies in the BCCI Scandal and Iran/Contra isn't spineless either.

Sorry you feel that way. It doesn't square with reality.
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hellhathnofury Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-04 10:55 PM
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28. See #16!
:hi:
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BeatleBoot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-04 11:02 PM
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31. See #3
:7
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XanaDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-04 10:57 PM
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29. Maybe some have to SEE the anger
to believe it. Me, I prefer actions to words.
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BeatleBoot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-04 10:43 PM
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3. A Working Class Hero
is something to be.

Go watch him speak at a local VFW hall. He's a class act.
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trumad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-04 10:44 PM
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6. The Globe is a whore
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curse10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-04 10:49 PM
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13. thanks for the links trumad
good stuff
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-04 10:48 PM
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11. In the 80s, BFEE shill Michael Ginsburg worked at the Globe.
I am sure it was to taint the newsroom because of the BCCI and IranContra investigations by Kerry. Ginsburg works at the White House now last I heard.
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XanaDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-04 10:51 PM
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19. Yeah, I'll bet Oliver North thinks Kerry has spine and balls
:hi:
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Zomby Woof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-04 10:52 PM
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21. 38%-18%
I like to repeat that often. :-)
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curse10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-04 10:53 PM
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23. LoL
I've been a good girl. I've not gloated once. :-)
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Zomby Woof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-04 10:54 PM
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26. I am one of those classless assholes!
I love being vindicated, and this has been a particularly good week for it! :D

38-18... ahhhhhhh!
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-04 11:06 PM
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33. But you're my kind of classless asshole!
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-04 11:05 PM
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32. I'm neither good nor a girl...
IOWA
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-04 12:06 AM
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-04 12:21 AM
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41. No No No...
That was meant in a convivial way. ZW and I are cool (unless the subject is the great Lester Bangs)
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Zomby Woof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-04 12:25 AM
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42. LOL
I forgot about the Lester Bangs thing, but then I hate ALL critics, lol.

Looks like my conviviality is causing all kinds of strife. :D
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-04 12:18 AM
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40. HAHAHA! Careful Zomby...
what if I was a bitter little baby and alerted on your "SUCK ON IT!"
It's happened before...
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-04 01:02 AM
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46. Jesus Christ! That wasn't an attack on me
No reason for it to be alerted on (and deleted)
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trumad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-04 10:54 PM
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25. In this crazy landscape of politics
I wouldn't repeat that too often.
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Kathy in Cambridge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-04 12:26 AM
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43. The Globe has a serious vendetta against Kerry
Joan Venocchi is particularly bad.

Kerry ran unopposed last time for his seat. He is very popular in Mass. It's pretty bad when the Boston Herald-the right wing rag-is more balanced in its Kerry coverage than the Globe.

And the Globe-with the exception of a few writers-is hardly left of center.
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