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rumpel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-19-05 10:08 PM
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We gave rove too much credit. Please read!
Edited on Sat Feb-19-05 10:29 PM by rumpel
Could this be the mastermind of the propaganda operation? and Rove just an operative soldier? and Guckert a not so successful student gofer?

Morton C. Blackwell, Leadership Institute

http://www.nndb.com/people/603/000056435/

American Conservative Union Board Member
    College Republicans
    Council for National Policy Executive Director, 1991-2000
    Council for National Policy Board of Governors, 1982-91
    Emergency Committee to Defeat Al Gore Chairman
    Emergency Committee to Stop Hillary Rodham Clinton Chairman
    Free Congress Foundation Board Member
    Moral Majority Cofounder
    Republican National Committee

http://www.americanpresident.org/history/ronaldreagan/staffadvisers/presidentialpolitics/publicliaison/h_index.shtml

Special Assistant to the President for Public Liaison (Reagan)
Morton C. Blackwell (1981-1984)

http://www.mediatransparency.org/recipients/leadership_institute.htm

snip

Perhaps the most indicting statement in the New York Times story comes when the president of the Institute, Morton C. Blackwell (who by the way makes his living as president of a company that manages Republican campaigns), informs the reporter that he teaches "political technology." Given that his students are all Republicans, why is that not illegal for a 501(c)(3)? Is he not teaching Republicans how to win elections?
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rumpel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-19-05 10:24 PM
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1. Here is something quite interesting, although I still have to check on
Edited on Sat Feb-19-05 10:28 PM by rumpel
the authors' organization.

does anyone know them?

http://www.skepticfiles.org/fw/rules.htm

snip

Freedom Writer - January/February 1996

CNP rules and regulations

In order to "allow open, uninhibited remarks" from
the speakers, CNP members must adhere to strict rules
regarding the meetings. A memorandum from executive
director Morton C. Blackwell listed the rules. They
are:

and

http://www.skepticfiles.org/fw/cnp.htm

Freedom Writer - June 1995



Clandestine council meets in Virginia

By Skipp Porteous

Approximately 375 members of the secretive Council for National Policy
(CNP) held closed-door meetings at the Ritz-Carlton Tysons Corner
hotel in McClean, Virginia on May 12 and 13, 1995. Founded in 1981,
the CNP membership is a virtual who's who of the religious and political
right-wing in the United States.

The meetings are so secretive that the press is not allowed, and no
public announcements of the meetings are ever made. Plainclothes security
guards carefully watch who comes and goes at the hotels where the
meetings are held.

snip

At the May meeting, CNP members discussed impeachment strategies regarding
presidential appointments. It was pointed out that any presidential
appointee can be impeached, and that the process is quite easy. Though
not mentioned specifically, it may be that they had President Clinton's
nominee for Surgeon General, Dr. Henry Foster, in mind during this
discussion.

on edit I found a much easier to navigate site:

http://www.buildingequality.us/ifas/fw/9601/index.html
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earthboundmisfit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-19-05 10:57 PM
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2. Remember also that Rev. Sun Myung Moon is of great influence
in Council for National Policy, the "Presidential Prayer Breakfasts", and seems to be inextricably entwined with the ReligioPolitical Right.
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rumpel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-19-05 11:12 PM
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3. Since this is older info, I wonder if Moon is also now on board of CNP, I
do not know when Moon bought the W. Times
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earthboundmisfit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-19-05 11:51 PM
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9. Moon is FOUNDER of the Washington Times - check this site
Hey in looking for more info/connects about this I found a REALLY interesting site:
http://www.iapprovethismessiah.com/
The name sounds PRO-Moonie, but it is NOT. Has up-to-date + historic info, so much stuff it started to make me sick to my stomach!

example from 2/10/05:
"Deputy NSA Elliot Abrams spoke at three pro-Moon rallies in 1998
Elliot Abrams, former Reagan official and ex-convict, took to the road in 1998 to appear at events attacking "deprogrammers," kidnappers hired by parents to retrieve young people from Reverend Moon's movement.
Elliot is one of the true believers...he was very tolerant of some of the very aggressive use of human rights violations in Central America to thwart leftist insurgencies, in El Salvador and Guatemala, in particular.
Finding common cause in supporting the Contra death squads in those days was Reverend Moon, owner of the Washington Times, whose right-hand man cut the $100,000 check that opened Oliver North's 'Freedom Fund'."

OHHH Boy.



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rumpel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-19-05 11:13 PM
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4. I have a feeling very soon we will know where the 280 million PR funds
went to.
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Sparkly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-19-05 11:17 PM
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5. Blackwell trained Rove
http://www.nationalreview.com/tks/052519.html

Blackwell Trained Karl Rove. Morton Blackwell, a former national executive director of the College Republicans, trained a teen-aged Karl Rove as a field organizer, and taught him "people in politics should pay less attention to consultants, television advertising, polls, and 'message,' and more attention to the old-fashioned side of the business: registering voters, organizing volunteers, making face-to-face contact during the last days of a campaign, and getting people to the polls on Election Day."

He's also the one who came up with those purple-heart bandaids.
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rumpel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-19-05 11:25 PM
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6. That is why I think Guckert will connect the dots of the whole operation
Blackwell being entrenched in what they term as movement now for decades has and still is the master of the whole operation.

It appears they had a hand in the matters leading up to the Clinton impeachment.

This time, they may have shot themselves in the foot with Gannon.
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Al-CIAda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-19-05 11:30 PM
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7. Flow chart / graph-
It might be useful to work out a flow chart or timeline for all of 'Gannon's" news stories, events, etc. and compare how the story shuffles through different outlets and the "MSM". How his inflammatory smears are calculated and timed with events to steer debate. This guy is popping up like Forrest Gump in all the notable smears and distortions -and seems to be the genesis of some of the WH propaganda line. He seemingly had a hotline to Oz himself.
Just a compilation of his 'articles' and events would make interesting connections, but throw in his Christmas parties, his Hannity /show appearances, etc. would be facinating. Of course you'd want to include the prostitution career...
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Sparkly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-19-05 11:34 PM
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8. I agree
Edited on Sat Feb-19-05 11:37 PM by Sparkly
It would help a lot.

It'd probably be impossible to find (who knows if James Guckert is even his real name) but I'd love to know if there's ANY name that connects this guy to the 1980s Bush Sr. prostitution scandal.

Edited to add: For example, when was he in the Marines; what state is he from; where was he during this time period; was he ever at the White House during this time or work for any of these people, etc...:
http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a388cd49f5ce8.htm
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rumpel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-05 02:08 AM
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11. what kind of people are running this country...
:puke:
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rumpel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-19-05 11:51 PM
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10. Good idea
Edited on Sat Feb-19-05 11:52 PM by rumpel
I will also dig some more...
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cosmicdot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-05 07:39 PM
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12. from his background, he certainly seems to be a key player
Edited on Tue Feb-22-05 08:36 PM by cosmicdot
and possible major lynchpin ... is he the propaganda mob leader?

Lee Atwater must have been on the same level as Rove is today??? chief executor of the propaganda ...

so, does Morton go back to Watergate days? if so, I wonder how he escaped being 'named/fingered' ... if there's a connection with Rove, there might be a connection to Donald Segretti and Atwater ... his CV says he's a co-founder of the Moral Majority ... that would be circa Agnew (With Paul Weyrich and Richard Viguerie, Blackwell met with Jerry Falwell to found the Moral Majority)? ... http://watch.pair.com/database.html

http://www.namebase.org/cgi-bin/nb06?BLACKWELL_MORTON_C

seems all we did with Watergate was to slow down the corruption ... allowing them to regroup, re-form (not 'reform') and reorganize (i.e., think tanks) ... the system didn't get rid of the Watergate problem ... and, we're suffering from that big time ... it's so bad, destructive and evil that it could be our undoing ...

Council for National Policy is definitely a coming together point organization ... where the neocons and the Jerry Falwells and Ollie North's congregate ... a secretive organization which is, what? a charitable tax exempt organization?

CNP is a 501c3 non-profit organization. For the year ending December 31, 2002, CNP income was $1,240,377. <7> (http://www.guidestar.org).

According to Media Transparency, between 1995 and 2002 the CNP received $125,000 (unadjusted for inflation) from the Richard and Helen DeVos Foundation and the Castle Rock Foundation. In 2000 the Castle Rock Foundation paid a membership fee of $10,000. <8> (http://www.mediatransparency.org/search_results/info_on_any_recipient.php?recipientID=2119)

The CNP also has a related 501c4 organization CNP Action Inc.. CNP Action re-imbursed CNP $16,563 for the use of its facilities with and $39,457 of staff time.

Joseph Coors gave start-up funding, according to Washington Babylon (p. 11).
http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Council_for_National_Policy


the whole thing may be more of a collaborative effort with Blackwell and Rove as co-facilitators ... one on the inside, one on the outside ... the CNP has its get-togethers, and then the engineers, plotters and planners take over ... Rove seems to have earned his place at the strategy-planning table with possible credentials to, not just brainstorm, but to call plays ... and, he's an operative "INSIDE" the White House ... now, we have a Dominionist (e-voting machine connections) Claude A. Allen, failed Fed. court appointee, inside the WH as no-confirmation required new Domestic Policy Adviser ...

Can anything be done to 'reform' how the whole 501(c)(3) thing works? ... it's obviously a huge loophole, and being abused for the whole Fundamentalist Right-wing Neocon Republican Propaganda Machine which includes many cogs: think-tanks, the corporate media, the fake media, the misuse of gov't websites and the Republican policy house.org gov't site as propaganda apparatus (i.e., used to send out their 2005 Freedom calendars

(I complained to several House/Senate members - Rep. Chris Cox owes the country and Democrats an apology for implying that the Democrats, as he put it: "Leading the organized opposition to these ideas 150 years ago, just as today, was the Democratic Party."
http://www.policy.house.gov/2005_calendar/about.cfm
http://www.policy.house.gov/2005_calendar/view.cfm

they left out so much, i.e. the Dixiecrats flocking to the GOP; disenfranchisement in 2000, 2002, 2004; Reagan kicking off his campaign from Philadelphia, Miss. - and so much more :) )

something is, at least, questionable when the likes of the highly partisan Heritage Foundation claims to be a non-partisan, 'educational', tax exempt organization -- when it actually produces a product - right-wing policy guides for WH use --- wonder what legislation could be introduced which might help to flush these things out? ... wonder who would be willing to sponsor such a bill?

Anything to take a leg from out of the Machine

where does the BFEE and the CNP come together? what is the head of the Octopus?

Rev. Moon??? what is it with this person? is he a citizen? where does he reside? does he pay taxes? "Dark Side of Rev. Moon: Buying the Right" by Robert Parry http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/False%20Religions/Moonies/jerry_falwell_and_myung_moon.htm

keep sleuthing!!!
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huh ... Pat Sajak is on the Board of Directors of the Claremont Institute (yet another 'think tank'), as is Howard Ahmanson, Jr., the Orange County Dominionist financing/investment money behind ES&S/Diebold ... http://www.commondreams.org/views04/0225-05.htm
http://www.claremont.org/about/board.html
http://www.claremont.org/about/board.html
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