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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-05 08:06 PM
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How many other freepers
are White House insiders and GOP operatives?

So far we know that Gannon, Buckhead and Eberle all used the site to spread the WH Propaganda. There must have been others? Anybody know of any others?

The Free Republic was one of the WH Propaganda Machine's main venues to launch their rumors and smear campaigns. How much contact did the WH have with members of this site? Was there any financial support from the GOP?

Who else is a freeper? Does Rove have his own account or does he leave that sort of thing to one of his staffers? Or maybe Karen Hughes? I wonder what her screen name would be? She'd be a perfect freeper.


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mattclearing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-05 08:12 PM
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1. Add Corsi. n/t
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-05 08:20 PM
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2. Corsi, I forgot about him?
Do you know if there are any threads where they are talking to each other?

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mattclearing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-05 08:31 PM
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3. No idea. I don't read Free Republic except when people link it from here.
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Erika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-05 08:32 PM
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4. Sad the WH uses the naive freepers
But maybe they'll intellectually mature when they realize how badly they've been used.

But I doubt it, Hannity kicked them in the teeth and they are still kissing his butt.
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tinanator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-05 08:55 PM
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7. not naive, INSANE
stupid too. Watch that naive word, use it towards a poster and they will holler personal attack! and have your post deleted.
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No Exit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-05 08:53 PM
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5. Don't forget freeper "NCPAC", whose name is Joseph Steffens.
He's the one who was an aide to republican Maryland governor Ehrlich. "NCPAC", while at work, spread innuendo about a probable future democratic opponent of Ehrlich--Baltimore mayor O'Malley.

NCPAC spread the false rumor that O'Malley had been unfaithful to his wife. O'Malley cried foul, and the story has recently made the news.

Ehrlich "fired" Steffens (NCPAC).

Freepers persistently claim that Rush Limbaugh has a freeper account.
Clearly, Hannity has been on there, b/c he talks about the place with knowledge of what goes on there.

I strongly believe there are others who either began their freeper registrations while already being paid political operatives, or who were offered money from the GOP.
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clovis29 Donating Member (279 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-05 10:17 PM
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16. what about that MD dude?
I heard about it, but I don't know what to make of it.
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No Exit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-05 11:06 PM
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21. That's who I was talking about.
His freeper name was "NCPAC", his real name is Joseph Steffens. He worked for MD Gov. Ehrlich, who claims he has now "fired" Steffens b/c Steffens was posting gossip about the democrat, O'Malley, on freerepublic.

Freeper caught in the act of politically-paid defamation!
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-05 08:53 PM
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6. Here's another one - Robert A. Hahn
Edited on Sun Feb-20-05 08:54 PM by DoYouEverWonder
Apparently he runs the Free Republic Network. This looks like a perfect subgroup for Rove's operatives to network.



FR Network news...
Free Republic Network Board | 10/29/2002 | FR Network

Posted on 10/29/2002 10:18:08 AM PST by FR Network

Earlier this month, the Free Republic Network held its annual Board meeting. In addition to electing new officers, we have decided to rework our Board and operational structure a bit. The new FRN Board of Directors consists of nine members: Interesting Times (Chairman), Skeet (Executive Director), Diotima, Bob J, MinuteGal, DoughtyOne, Nick Danger, Seeking the Truth and Abner.

We are also forming a new FRN Executive Team to help plan and organize events, design and implement services for FR Chapters, and to work with FRN Strategic partners such as the ACU and the Leadership Institute. Upcoming FRN-hosted events include CPAC 2003 in Washington DC, a Freeps Ahoy cruise to be announced shortly, and our yearly conference next fall. We're also looking for volunteer writers and fundraisers. Naturally, all members of the Executive Team will learn the secret FRN handshake and be given their own decoder ring. If you'd like to help us support conservative activism, drop us a line at frn@freeper.org.

The Free Republic Network organizes, trains and supports conservative activists, and connects other conservative organizations with grassroots groups across the country that share their goals. There are currently 49 local and issue-based Chapters affiliated with the FRN

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/778084/posts

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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-05 09:02 PM
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9. Robert A. Hahn also designed the Swift Boat Vets for Truth web site
Hahn has also appeared on Hannity's show.

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No Exit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-05 09:07 PM
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11. Aha! I THOUGHT there was a very deep, deep, deep involvement
of freerepublic with that Swift Boat sham campaign!

So this guy Hahn is probably the link?

Don't forget, a very large number of freepers are military or retired military.

Probably they're mostly the retired type, b/c I doubt that the people currently being forced to fight this fraudulent war are very inclined to look favorably on Bush!

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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-05 09:13 PM
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13. This gets even deeper
Scott Swett, who is listed as the webmaster of the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth website, swiftvets.com, also appeared on FOX News Channel host Sean Hannity's August 5 radio show to discuss the group. Swett posts frequently to FreeRepublic.com, using the pseudonym "Interesting Times," and is also a director of the Free Republic Network. The wintersoldier.com website to which Swett has contributed articles is a project of the Free Republic Network.

http://216.239.57.104/search?q=cache:RuNs9EFm1RAJ:swiftvets.eriposte.com/behindsbv.htm+%22+Robert+A.+Hahn%22+free+republic&hl=en&client=firefox-a

Plus Corsi is the middle of all this, handing out the money to keep these operations going.

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No Exit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-05 11:02 PM
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20. Wow, thanks for the info. I'm starting a list of "real names".
Heh heh.

How could Americans in general be so stupid that they couldn't see the whole Swift Boat thing was a GOP-run smear campaign? Especially after it became known that John O'Neill was handpicked by Chuck Colson, on behalf of Nixon, as a "soldier guy" who could refute that upstart soldier guy, John Kerry?

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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-05 08:07 AM
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22. That is part of what I am working on too
I'm trying to track down who the operatives are and what are their FR screen names.

Of interest is this group the Free Republic Network, which I had never heard of before I started this little project. I think the FRN is where the operatives gather to promote the WH agenda and message.

Funny thing is that despite Gannon, Buckhead and the fellow in MD, must of the general public has never heard of Free Republic and/or freepers. I think it's way past time for people to understand what is really going on underneath all of these manufactured 'scandals' in the last four years.


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No Exit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-05 09:30 AM
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24. Funny how powerful petty gossip can be.
In an Atlantic Online article entitled "Karl Rove In A Corner", I read that Karl sought to undermine a judicial candidate named Mark Kennedy. This was when Karl was consulted to help turn the appeals courts of Alabama to republican dominance. Kennedy was a juvenile court judge, and he was running for either the state supreme court, or for the state appeals court.

Kennedy had some campaign ads on TV that showed him helping children--a natural angle for someone whose experience was in the juvenile courts.

The repuke slime machine decided to play the footage of Kennedy with children as some sort of implication that he was... a CHILD MOLESTER!

The Atlantic article went on to say how this slime was revved up: it said that Rove's people "started a whispering campaign at the state university." This tells us that the College Republicans were involved. The whispering presumably was something to the effect of "hey, it's ironic to see him in that ad holding hands with those little children... know what I mean? He really LIKES children... know what I mean?"

Kennedy was not a child molester in any way, shape, or form. But (like many who are not jaded veterans of dirty politics) he couldn't take the personal attacks, and IIRC, he withdrew his candidacy; the repuke candidate won.

It is easy to see how a chatty site like Freerepublic could be used in exactly the same way. The sliming of Democratic Baltimore mayor O'Malley (done on Freerepublic by poster "NCPAC", a/k/a Joseph Steffens, aide to repuke Gov. Ehrlich) is a prime example.
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No Exit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-05 08:57 PM
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8. Oh, and another thing.
Recently the Grand High Exalted Mystic Freeper (Jim Robinson, the site's owner) went on a rampage and banned the accounts of numerous persons who are against Bush's illegal alien amnesty plan.

One of these persons, I believe his last name is Gheen, wrote about their outrage at being run off from freerepublic, and in his writings he said to Robinson, "You have banned, among others, persons who hold office in the republican party." (Not an exact quote--I'm paraphrasing what I read.)

So if that's true, there were other actual employees of the GOP posting there.
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No Exit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-05 09:04 PM
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10. I also believe that freerepublic was deeply involved
with the "Swift Boat Veterans".

About 2 weeks b/f the November election, I saw an odd post on Libertypost.org. (Libertypost is a sort of spin-off from freerepublic; unlike freerepublic, people are allowed to criticize Bush there, though libertypost's owner is a raving Bush robot.)

The odd post was a copy of a post on freerepublic. I wish I could remember which freeper posted it, I'm thinking he was called something like "Navy Vet"; can't remember exactly.

He had announced that there was going to be a Swift Boat rally somewhere in D.C. It sounded like a hastily-arranged last-chance-to-smear-Kerry thing.

So the thread under his announcement grew, as they commented, and many of them swore to help and attend the rally. But then, all of a sudden, the freeper posted this: "I have been ordered to stand down." He then said the rally was cancelled.

WHO "ordered him to stand down" (those were his exact words)???
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-05 09:10 PM
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Back in August
Edited on Sun Feb-20-05 09:29 PM by DoYouEverWonder
after the Gainesville Rally fell apart they cancelled other events. That was the one where the Bush Campaign and the Swift Boat Vets were caught collaborating to organize the rally. When the story hit the MSM, their lawyers told them to cancel the Gainesville Rally. I guess since the heat was on them for staging these rallies that they decided to cancel the one in DC too.

edited comments
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No Exit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-05 10:59 PM
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19. Really? I hadn't heard about that one. Oh, and BENJAMIN GINSBERG!
Remember? He was a lawyer for the WH, and, COINCIDENTALLY, he was also a lawyer for the Swift Boat Vets.

Just a COINCIDENCE, of course.

He ended his representation of the Swift Boat Smear Campaign, I think, when his connections to the WH and to the Swift Boaters raised some eyebrows.
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Sparkle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-05 09:10 PM
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12. That blowhard Hannity was a freeper, I believe.
Except recently he called them names. Don't know what's up with that.
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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-05 09:15 PM
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14. Just sucking the tit of the GOP Neocon Media Echo Chamber for cash...
Edited on Sun Feb-20-05 09:17 PM by zulchzulu
...that's the only assumption I could give for this madness...

People will say it was a great living working as a Pentagon shill as a media "infotainment" representative years from now. It's the karmic ending that gets 'em.

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AntiCoup2K4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-05 10:08 PM
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15. Doesn't Ann the Man post over there?
Seem to remember reading somewhere that s/he was a registered Freep.
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bmovies Donating Member (113 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-05 10:45 PM
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18. SOMEPLACE theres got to be photos
of freepers meeting with white house officials or intermediaries
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-05 08:15 AM
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23. Here's DC Freeper Angelwood's
photo album.

http://community.webshots.com/album/139408344FzaZEV

That's where this now famous pic of Gannon comes from:




There's all sort of interesting stuff in here. You might find some pics of officals posing with freepers in there.
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-05 09:48 AM
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25. This freak... look at the body language of both people looking past
one another.
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