Bill Maher on Gannon/Gucker Affair. A MUST, MUST, MUST SEE!!!

[Rainscents]

As the NYT, Wash Post and Mainstream Television News" work Feverishly to help WH Suppress Gannon/Gucket Affair. Bill Maher Nails it with the Help of Robin Williams, Lesley Stahl and yes, Joe Bidden (Joe grew a spine. It Appears)... You must see this short film, it's very funny!!!

http://homepage.mac.com/njenson/movies/billmaher021805gannon.html

[sellitman]

1. What a great video!

That is hysterical. I hope we can keep this story afloat until the MNM wakes up.

[yurbud]

2. forward this to local papers and networks.

[Vickers]

3. "He had two jobs...one was sleazy and shameful..."

"...and the other was as a male prostitute."

Bwahahahahahahahahahahahaha!

HOW'S THAT "VALUES" VOTE WORKING OUT FOR YA, FREEPERS?

[K8-EEE]

41. THAT Was A Great Line!

Bill was in great form. You can tell the GOP dude cuz he has the alarming Rey-gun esque orange hair and dyed eyebrows, I'm telling you, GOPers are just biZARRE!

[ktowntennesseedem]

4. Great find!

[mattclearing]

5. Maher makes the man-date joke.

Another celebrity lurker. Sweet.

[EC]

6. It'll be on HBO's Real Time with Bill Mahr

all week....

[DELUSIONAL]

7. There's a good shot of Joe Bidden almost falling out of his

chair because he was laughing so hard at some of Robin Williams' remarks.

This really is must watch video.

For us dial up folks -- this take a bit of time to download but well worth the wait. Plus you can play it repeatedly -- and it doesn't get boring.

[Senior citizen]

8. I'm on dial-up and I agree it was well worth the wait.

I rarely download videos, but this one is terrific.

The late Victor Frankl said that humor was the best way to survive fascism. This video is an excellent survival tool.

[FreedomAngel82]

24. I saw that about

Mr. Biden. LOL. I liked the little ad at the end Mr. Williams made up. LOL. :D

[tsuki]

9. I loved RW impression of Gannon. He rapped on the table, his mouth

close, as if it was a door, calling, Karl, Oh, Karl, Karl, let me in. I almost fell off the chair.

[proud2BlibKansan]

13. "Karl, are you awake, Karl?"

"Let me in, Karl"

ROFLMAO

[njdemocrat106]

10. Thanks for posting!

I wish I was as spontaneous as Robin Williams! Funny stuff!

[Sparkle]

11. The republican on that show wasn't laughing that much.

But do you blame him? It was at the expense of his boss and his party!

[Mr_Spock]

12. Working for God isn't always easy - especially when it's the Devil

in disguise. Don't look for any sympathy here - everything bad that happens to these fools stems from the fact that NOBODY can live up to the pure standards that they set. They continue to suffer from the same miscalculation over and over again - like Bart Simpson getting electrocuted over and over again - never to learn a damned thing...

[independentchristian]

15. Moon runs this administration, not "Christian" doctrine

[Mr_Spock]

18. Even more reason why they are riotously stupid.

Evil always loses in the end.

[Lena inRI]

63. Like your proverbs. . .

because they give us consoling hope. . .wisdom of the ages puts everything in perspective.

Here's one from my Italian relatives (Veneto regional proverb):

"Diavolo fa paniata, ma non cuercio."
Evil makes the pot but not the lid.

:kick:

[FreedomAngel82]

25. Really

I noticed he was pretty quiet. He was kinda snickering though. He was outnumbered. Which is a nice see compared to other networks. Maher is the "fair and balanced" one. :) I love how he does on his show (one democrat, one republican and a celebrity). :bounce:

[calimary]

35. Just figured out who that is with Biden and Robin Williams:

republi-CON Tommy Thompson

[jdj]

64. Tommy Thompson, whose H&HS Bush just chopped up in his

new budget.

I guarantee you the repukes drew straws about who to have on this show and Thompson got the short one.

[CatBoreal]

69. Who was that???

He looked bloody embarassed. And DIDN'T SAY A WORD because he probably knew Binden was right.

[Catbird]

14. It doesn't hurt as much when you can laugh at it.

I tend to be skeptical of anything promoted in ALL CAPS, but the hype is justified in this case.

:D :D :D :D :D

[Ladyhawk]

16. That was great, Rainscents. Thanks for posting. :) n/t

[Rainscents]

19. Your welcome! I thought we could all use laugh at GOP expense!

[understandinglife]

17. Sending this one to everyone I know (nt)

BE THE BU$H OPPOSITION;24/7

[sorechasm]

20. Truth is funnier than fiction. Thanks Rainscents. You weren't kidding. n/t

[Mr_Spock]

21. That IS hilarious

I think I'll watch it repeatedly - like I did with Jon Stuarts appearance on Crossfire

[Zen]

22. MSM - here we come - ready or not

:D

[lateo]

47. OMG that was hilarious!

LOL

[Maraya1969]

83. Do you have a link to Jon Stewart on Crossfire?

I would love to see it.

[FreedomAngel82]

23. Great video!

And it's so true about what Mr. Biden said about the FBI and what Mr. Maher said about Clinton. We all know good and well if this was a democratic government the republicans would be kicking and crying. :grr:
Robin Williams was really funny though. :loveya:

[ProudDad]

56. And it would be all over the front pages

If it had been Clinton's admin.

I've heard that Robin Williams is right on--Gannon is/was Karl Rove's boytoy... That's where the leaks came from...

[PROGRESSIVE1]

26. kick

....

[gristy]

27. Need some help...

I downloaded Quicktime (all 20Meg over dial-up), installed it, and started it up. But when I click on the link now the same thing happens as happened before I did all that: I get asked if I want to download Quicktime. Any ideas, anyone?

[gristy]

30. OK, I rebooted and Quicktime is working for me now.

Not yet clear how I can download it and then view it after downloading, though...

[Damien]

57. i had the same problem -- try this

followed the link, and then scrolled down the page a bit

http://onegoodmove.org/1gm/

scroll down, left side. try that.

[PopSixSquish]

28. Even the Republican (Who was that Anyway?)

was laughing at the end with Robin Williams' little ads for the websites.

Biden made an excellent point about what a security breach this is. There have to be at least a couple of Republicans in Congress who are also wondering WTF?

[webjamn]

74. Tommy Thompson

He was the HHS Secretary for *'s first incompetent four years.

[bajamary]

29. Excellent, thanks

Very funny. Amazingly, Joe Bidden really does speak up.Thanks for this post.

[Maestro]

31. Fantastic!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Hey MSM! Look.

Gannon: Yes, we know. It's Karl. ;) Preferably one with bars where both of you belong along with the rest of Shrubco!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[TheDonkey]

32. Thank You!! The Clip is excellent, I'm recommending this thread!!

[progressoid]

33. Outfuckingstanding!!

[cynthia]

34. hilarious

:kick:

[Bake]

36. I finally saw it, and I thought (with a few exceptions), Maher was GREAT!

He was hitting on all cylinders, except for a short segment of Bush-sucking (about the elections in Iraq).

Particularly his comment on high schoolers and the First Amendment --"If you don't learn the First Amendment, you don't DESERVE Social Security!" Dead on!

And when he did stray, Robin Williams was there to challenge him and bring him back to reality!

Bake

[laheina]

37. Even the Republican was laughing!!

Robin Williams was in rare form!!

[siliconefreak]

38. not that funny

As a gay guy, perhaps I'm very sensitive to jokes about gay sexuality, but I find it discomforting that so many people still get such a kick out of gay sex jokes. Actually, jokes about any kind of sex can get an audience roaring with laughter. I don't get it.

I think it just shows how immature and uncomfortable people are with open discussions about sex. I mean, for cryin' out loud, people still think that jokes about Monica Lewinsky are funny. I'm glad I'm more sophisticated than that.

In my opinion, the news is that an imposter somehow got security clearance and access to the President. All of the "tee hee" and laughter about Gannon's association with the sex industry is as obnoxious and distracting as the jokes about Monica Lewinsky were back in the Clinton years.

[Rainscents]

40. It's NOT about gay... it's about HYPOCRISY!

[siliconefreak]

42. nah...

If you listen with a sensitive ear, there's no question that people think it's "extra" hilarious because the situation is associated not only with gay sex, but with gay sex for profit.

I know that what people find funny is a reflection of the society and culture. It's just that the audience's laughter is a somewhat painful reminder that simply being gay (to many people) is outrageous, scandalous, and/or something that should be hidden.

Believe me, I have a great sense of humor. But I see the same thing when I catch a glimpse of the gay character on Will and Grace, or Carson from Queer Eye For The Straight Guy, who incidentally, has become the media's favorite "queer" - have you noticed? Lots of people still enjoy seeing gay men as either clowns or sexual deviants. In fact, many of them can ONLY see gay men in those ways, because they still can't handle seeing gays as a normal part of society.

C-SPAN had a brief call-in period last week for viewers to comment on the Jeff Gannon story. Many of the callers emphasized the words GAY MALE PROSTITUTE - and these were liberals who understandably used those words to make the Bush White House look bad. Wouldn't it be nice if those words were meaningless in this situation?

[pazarus]

43. well, except for the prostitution

because of its particularly perfect analogy to the more pressing situation at hand. and, its illegal.

The 'gay male' part is just another drop in the hypocrisy ocean that is the right. If it keeps the story 'interesting' enough to keep it in the news, I'll take it.

[Lorien]

50. So if Gannon were a straight female prostitute

no one would be laughing? Hell yes they would! Because a.) prostitution is illegal and, b.) BushCo has set itself up as having brought "dignity to the WH", along with being morally pure and Christian. They have advanced themselves by using homophobia and a mantra which includes "just say no to premarital sex". They hypocrisy and irony here is simply too rich to ignore!

[siliconefreak]

53. Gerbil jokes are tired, in my opinion

Unfortunately, there are many who do believe that gay guys shove gerbils up their asses on a regular basis. Maher's joke about gerbils reinforces that stereotype.

I was also a sex worker for several years, so maybe this news story hits a little too close to home. Luckily, I don't have a TV, so for the most part, I'm only exposed to the Gannon story when I visit DU.

[ItsTheMediaStupid]

61. Get a sense of humor

The only reason Maher mentions gerbils is that Rush has this fetish about them and the right will immediately get the joke... and shudder.

It's the hypocrisy that's so funny - family values gets a prostitute right up the backside and a big, honking male prostitute to boot.

[Maraya1969]

84. I did not like the Monica jokes at all but when Jimmy Swaggart

got caught "doin it" with a prostitute it was a wonderful day in the neighborhood for me. Keith Olberman still uses him as his #1 public apology, (that crying wing nut). It was the absolute hypocrisy of Stewart that made the whole thing so entertaining.

Clinton did lie about his affair but he also never stood on a pulpit denouncing adultery. That is the difference. We all knew he was kind of a slut and we loved him anyway because he never put down sluts! (And all you sluts out there - get over it!)

I understand and appreciate your sensitivity about this situation but.....for the sake of the Democratic Party can you just let us run on this one?

[siliconefreak]

92. lol

For the sake of the Democratic Party? Wow - I had no idea that the survival of the Democratic Party was dependent on the Gannon story.

If it's that important, then yes, please carry on with the laughter. :eyes:

[spooked911]

52. I understand your point. What if we just said Male Prostitute

and left "Gay" out of it?

I do think the gay aspect has more resonance because of Republican hypocrisy on the issue. But overall you are right.

[siliconefreak]

54. oh good :)

Thank you, spooked. I'm clearly much more sensitive about this story than the majority, but it's still nice to hear from someone who thinks my points are valid.

[Left Brain]

55. Of course your points are valid.

If you feel it, and you clearly do, it's valid. Good on ya for speaking your feelings.

I gotta say, though, that when Lesley Stahl looked at Maher and said, straight faced and without a second thought, "There's something behind this story that hasn't come out," I LMAO.

[ProudDad]

58. Your points are more than valid

They highlight the incredible hypocrisy of the entire American social setup.

The U.S. is the most prurient of all "civilized" societies because they're the most sexually repressed. That's why it's fine to demonize and oppress any perceived sexual "deviance" as defined by those who own and control the means of propoganda (read mass media).

The U.S. is the most ignorant and intolerant of all "civilized" societies when it comes to other cultures, countries and the non-dominant race -- white people. They're totally ignorant of the way others lead their lives and cannot ascibe humanity to anyone that doesn't look, act and talk like them.

The U.S. has the strongest, richest aristocracy of any society from any time and hides it well. The huge gap between the very few winners of the capitalist economic game and the vast majority of losers is proof of this but, again, the propoganda arm of this society will not let this new leak.

Unfortunately, we live in the most powerful empire in the history of the world and as a result (maybe the cause) also live in the most hypocritical, ignorant and evil setup ever devised by the few to keep control over the many.

To paraphrase a great man whose murder 40 years ago we acknowledge today, Malcolm X, this situation must be changed "by any means necessary"!

[siliconefreak]

73. thank you

I feel better knowing that there are a few others who understood the points I was trying to make.

Remember when people told Polish jokes all the time? If someone tells a Polish joke in 2005, they're either given a strange look or thought of as pitiful.

I would hope that we can get to a point where gay jokes are treated the same way.

[Maraya1969]

94. OK I'm feeling sufficiently guilty now

I take back the "Do it for the Democrats thing"


I am a bi-sexual woman and I don't really get upset when people make jokes about gays. Robin Williams had one of the best definitions for the girls: "Women in comfortable shoes".


I have experienced mean behavior in the past because of my sexuality and yes, it does hurt. So I am sorry if I was insensitive toward you. I certainly did not mean to be. :hug:

[Alizaryn]

39. That was GREAT, thanks for the link!

[ProgressiveConn]

44. I've got

Saudis 261.8bb
Canada 180.0bb
Iraq 112.5bb
U.A.E. 97.8bb
Kuwait 96.5bb
Iran 89.7bb
Venezue 77.8bb
Russia 60.0bb
Libya 29,5bb
Nigeria 24.0bb

Think they are a year or two later than yours but dunno if they are the newest.

[ClintonTyree]

45. Williams....."better latent than never".............

how doea he think of stuff that fast. His mind is REALLY working overtime, all the time.

[kerry-is-my-prez]

86. I think he's bipolar.

A lot of writers and comedians are.

[Love Bug]

89. Or at least has ADD

IMO, Robin Williams is the poster boy for adult ADD.

[UL_Approved]

46. This was the relief I needed

After all of the heartburn from the Bush admin, this was the release and the perspective that pulls it all together.

Robin Williams, you haven't been this pointed since Good Morning Viet Nam!.

And Lesley Stahl, my dear, you are the essence of that old phrase:

Payback is a bitch.

A story that has EVERY SINGLE EMOTIONAL TRIGGER that was used by the RW to discredit an opponent is present in this story. Intelligence failure, homosexuality, sex scandal, prostitution.

Could this get any more sleazy?

[ItsTheMediaStupid]

49. Leslie Stahl was great

If you ignore every other facet of the story, how does this fake get through the security check?

I'm glad she said it because she's clearly in a position to know what getting that press pass is like.

[ProudDad]

59. Daily passes

It's my understanding that the bush admin bypassed the normal security vetting by issueing "gannon" a daily pass at the door...every day.

http://mediamatters.org/

http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2005/02/10/gannon_affair/

" Gannon reportedly did not have what's known as a "hard pass" for the White House press room, which allows journalists to enter daily without getting prior approval each time. Instead Gannon picked up a daily pass by contacting the White House press office each morning and asking for clearance. Mark Smith, vice president of the White House Correspondents Association, says it's up to White House officials to decide whom they want to wave in each day. "They don't consult us." If they had, Smith says, he would have been "very uncomfortable" granting Gannon the same access as professional journalists.

And the association never would have backed a reporter using an alias. Says Pinkerton: "If was walking around the White House with a pass that had a different name on it than his real name, that's pretty remarkable." Smith, who covers the White House for Associated Press radio, says he "could have sworn" that he saw credentials around Gannon's neck with the name "Jeff Gannon" on them.

"Somebody was waving him into the White House every day," notes David Brock, president and CEO of Media Matters for America, an online liberal advocacy group that led the way in raising questions about Gannon and Talon News. "

[Misunderestimator]

87. Please don't include "homosexuality" in that litany of bad things...

I've been biting my tongue on this for a week, since I know we can't just ignore the fact that the prostitute was prostituting himself to men, so "gay" comes into the scandal... but to put it on par with the other words in this sentence "Intelligence failure, homosexuality, sex scandal, prostitution" is a problem when you follow it up with "Could this get any more sleazy?" No different than a fundamentalist mixing it into a list a deviances (rape, child molestation, etc.), as they always do. I know that wasn't your intention, but this constant undercurrent of bias is starting to affect me.

And not addressed to you but in general, the gerbil thing was WAY over the top, and though I can appreciate the humor, it only serves to solidify some people's perception of gay men being deviant sexually... Never in my life have I met or even heard of a man doing that (aside from the stupid rumors about Richard Gere).

[UL_Approved]

90. Please don't misunderstand me

There is nothing wrong with being homosexual.

But the same people who are career gay-bashers are also the biggest closet queens on the planet.

For what its worth, the sleaze is the fact that the guy is supposed to be this clean-cut RW supporter, but he is a gay prostitute.

Just like in NAZI Germany, Hitler's inner circle (and possibly Hitler himself) were notorious anti-homosexual propagandists, but were known homosexuals themselves.

This is the same kind of sleaze that befalls ALL sex scandals. The guy was involved in prostitution, which is a felony. He also worked for a made-up news front. Lying, cheating, prostitution. No late-night cable TV movie could come close to having all of these elements fit together.

But in the end, I think that the homosexual issue is being pushed hard because of the hypocrisy. Look at these fools on the RW power binge. They HATE homosexuals, but they ARE homosexuals. These people are so very dangerous, and the contradictions and strong words of prejudice that they spout are where we can expose them.

[Misunderestimator]

91. I didn't misunderstand you, that's why I said that I know you didn't mean

anything by it... I was just pointing out how a gay person might perceive "homosexuality" being included in a list... Falwell uses that trick as does Limbaugh and Santorum.

Absolutely, it is ironic that one of the very things vilified by the right wing may be part of the scandal that brings them down amid their own hypocrisy. We are not disagreeing.

So you see what I mean however, about including it in a list of things, that just by association "homosexuality" itself becomes scandalous? In this post you didn't do it (saying "Lying, cheating, prostitution") so I assume you understand me.

[Blue Belle]

48. I knew Bill would have something on this...

He is totally worth paying the extra $20 a month for HBO. The DU, Air America, and Bill Mahr are the only things that keep me sane. :-)

[lala_rawraw]

51. ManDate

:):)

[beam me up scottie]

60. "Karl, oh Karl..." ROFLMFAO!!!

Thank you so much!
Man I needed that laugh.

[Padraig18]

62. ROFLMAOPIMP!

Dear GOD that's funny!

:silly:

[Jokinomx]

65. Thank you SO much....

My Brother had called me this weekend and told me about the show. He thought it was the greatest Bill Maher to date. I don't have HBO so I haven't had a chance to see it.

:toast:

[beam me up scottie]

66. I'm going to see if I can download it in bit torrent.

I killed my tv and that's how I get my John Stewart fix.

[Shredr]

67. Brilliant.

Leslie Stahl was pretty on fire too.

[beam me up scottie]

70. Iknow. If I had to guess,

I would say Leslie needed that laugh as bad as I did.

[UCLA Dem]

68. so awesome. i want to see more.

[WoodrowFan]

71. that was GREAT!

thank you for the link!

[julialnyc]

72. Leslie Stahl would be a good person to write to

to do something for 60 Minutes

[Misunderestimator]

75. GREAT VIDEO.... Really a must see...

MAHER: "I don't wanna start rumors here, but isn't it sort of obvious that he had a boyfriend in the White House?"

[Starone]

76. Fantastic!

Hope we see more discussion just like this one!

[slutticus]

77. LOL!

:thumbsup:

[Maestro]

78. Up, up and away!

:kick: To good not let die.

[LibertyorDeath]

79. Thanks for posting this LMAO...

If you haven't seen it yet do yourself a favor & watch it.

:kick::kick::kick:

[cire4]

80. KICK...Brilliant......We need one more vote for this baby!

[Al-CIAda]

81. kick

[sarcasmo]

82. That was the greatest piece yet on this whole story.

Biden laid out the true reason their is no hearing. The Republican in charge of the Judiciary committee will not call one.

[JNelson6563]

85. Loved it!

Thanks for posting. :toast:

Julie

[DrZeeLit]

88. GREAT! New respect for Stahl and Biden.

Even though Maher and Williams were hysterical, both Biden and Stahl brought salient points, not having anything to do with sexual orientation or even party.

I hope this clip is playing EVERYWHERE!!!

[Borgnine]

93. That was hilarious.

I wish I got HBO. The Daily Show can only do so much.

[pnorman]

95. The original website is one I'd never seen before,

but it looks well worth browsing through: http://onegoodmove.org/1gm/

pnorman

[KalicoKitty]

96. Thanks!

That was GREAT!


:bounce: