SCOTT RITTER SAYS U.S. PLANS JUNE ATTACK ON IRAN, ‘COOKED’ JAN. 30 IRAQI E

[NVMojo]

Hopefully this group doesn't get infiltrated for eating brownies ...

SCOTT RITTER SAYS U.S. PLANS JUNE ATTACK ON IRAN, ‘COOKED’ JAN. 30 IRAQI ELECTION RESULTS

United for Peace of Pierce County (WA)
February 19, 2005


Scott Ritter, appearing with journalist Dahr Jamail yesterday in Washington State, dropped two shocking bombshells in a talk delivered to a packed house in Olympia’s Capitol Theater. The ex-Marine turned UNSCOM weapons inspector said that George W. Bush has "signed off" on plans to bomb Iran in June 2005, and claimed the U.S. manipulated the results of the recent Jan. 30 elections in Iraq.


Olympians like to call the Capitol Theater "historic," but it's doubtful whether the eighty-year-old edifice has ever been the scene of more portentous revelations.


The principal theme of Scott Ritter's talk was Americans’ duty to protect the U.S. Constitution by taking action to bring an end to the illegal war in Iraq. But in passing, the former UNSCOM weapons inspector stunned his listeners with two pronouncements. Ritter said plans for a June attack on Iran have been submitted to President George W. Bush, and that the president has approved them. He also asserted that knowledgeable sources say U.S. officials "cooked" the results of the Jan. 30 elections in Iraq.

more....

http://www.libertyforum.org/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=iraq_war&Number=293393206

[tinanator]

1. cookies not brownies!

mmmmm brownies. if only...

[NVMojo]

2. brownies must have been a wishful thought on my part!!

[mattclearing]

3. Shocked, I'm just shocked.

:eyes:

[stevedeshazer]

4. Ritter was right before

I don't doubt him now.

[FreedomAngel82]

37. So he has

two in a row? Nice. And I'm not surprised at all. This whole "election" was fixed since 1999. :eyes:

[Pachamama]

5. Well, why not? They cooked the Nov. 2nd Election here, why not there?

And why should Iran be any big surprise? Bush Co. had similar rhetoric coming out of their mouths before they attacked Iraq....

[PATRICK]

6. This adds up with

the Israeli foot-dragging to begin moving settlers out of Palestine at almost exactly the same time. Deal? Keeping options open for reneging because of "crisis"?

So the various sectors of disinformation will keep the American people pretending to pretend they don't know this naked aggression is inevitable, planned, going through its stages like any NASA rocket.

The same media that admitted bungling their lead up to Iraq with WMD will do the very same pretense and drumbeat again.

Or there is another 911 underway to seal the deal which is fine with both the terror twins- Al Qaeda and Bushco.

[KoKo]

7. Ritter has an "Excellent Track Record." If he says Iran then I believe him

but, I was thinking Syria. It wouldn't surprise me if it was both and we bring Israel into in all.

Hey! WTF...let's give the Chimp a REAL HARD ON! Implode the Middle East so Chimp can tell his fundies ..."Well...I TRIED????" Chimp Smirk...but hey...it just didn't work out the way we thought it would but "good luck to ya!" You'll get your "Armageddon...but it might be without the 'Second Coming' you were promised..." Sorry, tough luck!

"Laura and Me...we got a life to lead, ya know? We gave you the best we could...we dismantled FDR and the Dems Socialist Philosophy...ya want more? Tell it to GOD! and BTW...F**k OFF!..I did my time for you.."

[NVMojo]

8. we must not forget the Armagedon angle here ...

[blondeatlast]

30. Every time I hear "Iran" and/or "Syria," my mind jumps to that.

I'm gonna make sure my son and husband know I love them tonight.

[havocmom]

14. Doesn't UNOCAL want both Iran & Syria for the pipeline route?

Iraq is the staging ground for both would be my guess. What oil and gas companies want, they seem to get from the junta.

[NVMojo]

41. old proposed map here ...

http://www.worldpress.org/specials/pp/pipelines.htm

[independentchristian]

9. Shocked about what?

I'm just glad it's not March, like they originally intended. <sarcasm>

Either way, Bush is supposed to have the final report from the people working on the "draft" submitted to his desk by March 31st, right?

ANNUAL PERFORMANCE REPORT

An annual report providing the results of the implementation of these performance measures will be submitted by March 31, 2005. This report will address attained versus planned levels of performance, explain unattained target levels, and identify where and how strategies, performance goals, and performance indicators should be changed to ensure that the SSS reaches its strategic and annual goals and objectives.

http://www.sss.gov/perfplan_fy2004.html

I'd say that these thugs are right on schedule.

[EC]

10. And what about Congress this time?

They going to fall for his crap again, or is he going to "disguise" it as Israel doing the bombing, since he gave Sharon his permission to "protect" themselves....

[knight_of_the_star]

15. I'm willing to bet the Dems will fight it

Or at least will be able to be pressured into it, maybe we could get some of the more moderate Mepublicans to vote their conscience instead of their party.

[FreedomAngel82]

38. I hope they do

This could be a huge thing. :scared: And this time I think more democrats know the Bush plan and all that.

[lady lib]

11. Does anyone else find this depressing as hell?

More deaths, more of our tax money paying for death, and more election fraud. SHIT!

[NVMojo]

12. it is very depressing and I don't know why our hands are still to tied ...

Stupid American Nation???

[Indiana_Dem]

13. Depressed I already have been.....

now I'm shaking and scared, too!!!!!

:scared:

[MelissaB]

27. Me!

:cry: Sometines I wonder if this can be stopped. Is there any hope?

[blondeatlast]

29. If only that were all; are you familiar with the Dominionists?

Think of the "Left Behind" books and you're on the right track.

[lady lib]

31. No. I'll look it up. n/t

[blondeatlast]

32. Brace yourself--it's scary stuff. nt

[knight_of_the_star]

16. Let's start mobilizing the opposition to this

And get as many congressmen and senators on record in terms of their opinion of Iran.

[JHBowden]

17. Is Ritter being fed disinfo?

It is always possible the WH is spreading rumors to put pressure on the Iranians, given our weak strategic position.

Of course, given what I've seen over the last four years, one can't rule out anything.

[Ellen Forradalom]

52. I was wondering what his sources are

Not that I doubt his integrity, but where is he getting his information?

[madrchsod]

18. time for rangle`s "draft everyone bill"

to be introduced into the house. no exemptions- everyone r 18 to 24 goes-dirt poor to the filthy rich. everyone pays the price.

[s1rkull]

49. Not exactly

It would have the standard exemptions designed for children of the well-off and politically-connected.

[marcologico]

19. Why am I not surprised. Let's just hope it doesn't require a" terrorist "

attack somewhere first.

p.s. it won't be in Texas or Wyoming, that's for sure.

[NVMojo]

20. ...or Reno, Nevada, where Rove's family lives...

[bahrbearian]

22. Terrorist posing as Prostitutes

or journalist?

[NVMojo]

26. HAHA! That is funny!! No, I think his sis is a housewife and his bro ...

raking in lots of government contracts with his company, Granite.

[xultar]

50. LIHOP...I truly believe it will happen then the war with Iran. n/t

[Califooyah Operative]

21. united for peace link (if you don't want to go to libertyforum

http://www.ufppc.org/content/view/2295/

[NVMojo]

25. thanks for finding that link!!!!

[welshTerrier2]

23. i spent an hour or more talking to Ritter

about 2 years ago, before the Iraq invasion, i attended a lecture by Scott Ritter and had a chance to spend an hour or more talking with him, debating with him and asking him all sorts of questions ...

Scott is deadly serious about democracy ... the message he gets across loudly and clearly is that most of us are fucking up our democracy ... most Americans think democracy just happens ... by failing to learn the issues and participate in the process, we are putting our democracy in great jeopardy ...

he is not the kind of person who would fabricate a news story for his own personal gain ... while we can't know for sure whether Ritter was given good information or disinformation, I'm confident that when Ritter says it he believes it's true ...

[seventythree]

35. and look what they did to try to discredit him

with that luring teen age girls via the internet crap. Guckert better be careful -

[lady lib]

24. A good article from The Independent online edition

"Shirin Ebadi: Attacking Iran would bring disaster, not freedom"
It is hard not to see America's focus on human rights in Iran as a cloak for its larger strategic interests
19 February 2005


Condoleezza Rice has given assurances that a military attack by the United States on Iran "is simply not on the agenda at this point".

But notwithstanding Rice's disavowal, recent statements by the Bush administration, starting with President Bush's State of the Union address and Vice President Dick Cheney's comments about a possible Israeli military attack on Iran, are reminiscent of the rhetoric in the months leading up to the invasion of Iraq in 2003.

And Rice herself made clear that "the Iranian regime's human rights behaviour and its behaviour toward its own population is something to be loathed."

<snip>

Not only would a foreign invasion of Iran vitiate popular support for human rights activism, but by destroying civilian lives, institutions and infrastructure, war would also usher in chaos and instability. Respect for human rights is likely to be among the first casualties.

<snip>

http://comment.independent.co.uk/commentators/story.jsp?story=612475

[Papa]

44. "not on the agenda at this POINT"

Sounds just like Bush saying "I have no war plans on my desk" before the Iraq war.

They are lying thru their teeth.

[Goldmund]

28. On a related note...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=1612171&mesg_id=1612171

[NVMojo]

33. this is frightening ....

[Auntie Bush]

34. But, but, but....What about Syria?

[Disturbed]

36. A Four Front War on Terror?

Maybe the Bush Junta is suicidal? End of Days Scenerio?

[NVMojo]

39. Hunter S. Thompson suicides?? Here's one of his last spins on Bush ..

Your neighbour’s grandchildren will be fighting this stupid greed-crazed Bush-family war against the whole Islamic world for the rest of their lives if John Kerry isn’t elected to be the new president on Tuesday. - Hunter S. Thompson

[Placebo]

40. Would not surprise me.

Anyone who thinks this administration will start practicing restraint now after all they've done so far...

le sigh...:(

[reprehensor]

42. So there goes the neighborhood.

Again.

[crikkett]

43. coming out with this is the only way to keep it from happening

Hooray for the Loud *and* obnoxious Scott Ridder. We just can't afford another invasion.

I had misgivings about participating in the March 19th protest of war in Iraq but now I see it's time to make some signs, write some letters, for whatever good it will do.

:tinfoilhat:

[KayLaw]

45. Military draft June 2005

June rang a bell so I searched Google Groups and came up with almost 3,800 hits for June 2005 military draft.

[Muddy Waters Guitar]

46. Be prepared for an ice cold DRAFT

"The ex-Marine turned UNSCOM weapons inspector said that George W. Bush has "signed off" on plans to bomb Iran in June 2005, and claimed the U.S. manipulated the results of the recent Jan. 30 elections in Iraq."

Which means that you and yours will be getting notices from your friendly Selective Service officials pretty darn soon. Don't think it can happen? "Political suicide" for draft supporters? My guess is that the neocons are secretly hoping for another massive terrorist attack within US borders over the next several months (hitting mostly Blue States of course), made all the more likely by the brutality in Iraq. When and if this occurs, the propaganda engines will go into overdrive, and opponents of a draft will be shouted down for being unpatriotic-- then herded out to internment camps. As Orwell and Aldous Huxley both recognized, people forsake their capacity for critical thought and rational analysis when fear takes over.

Those of us who don't want our kids to be cannon fodder in the neocons' plans for global domination need to look at the possibility of emigration, seriously. (And don't worry about "bleeding out Blue State voters"-- remember, you can generally vote in US elections as an expat if you've been out less than 10 years.) Look beyond Canada-- they're clamping down on us and aren't letting too many Americans in. In the UK or Australia you'll probably be swept up in the draft just the same. My money's on warm Mediterranean EU countries, and Germany (which has lots of friendly inducements for qualified Americans who have some familiarity with German-- easy to pick up). France, Spain, Italy, Austria and Germany would be overjoyed to have a few thousand qualified American professionals contributing to their economy. I hope it doesn't come to something like this, but if the draft starts getting floated and/or war with Iran becomes realized as Ritter suggests, much better to use your skills and training productively rather than being shot at for the neocons' oil wars in the Middle East. Just 5 years ago-- I never, ever imagined it would be coming to something like this.

[bajamary]

47. Dear God

Dear God,

Are you reading this thread? I'm hoping you are taking a brake from your many activities and reading DU. The world is a complicated place these days, so you must take some brakes and DUers have some excellent ideas for you. I bet you created the blogsphere in your sleep. Or was that Al Gore?

Sorry, I digress.

What should we do about Team W and their insane quest to control the oil in the Mideast over the dead and maimed bodies of hundreds of thousands of your people? They only want control and power. Gee, one of them actually thinks you, get this, "talk to him" and tell him "no American will get killed in the war". Amazing.

But just in case I don't hear from you soon, very soon, I'm going to write and write and then write again my Congressional rep and my Senators from the great state of Illinois to demand that they seriously investigate these allegations.

And I'll remind them of my earlier communication that pleaded with them to investigate Team W's illegal and fraudulent use of the Congressional mandate funds from the war in Afghanistan, to the secret planning of the horrible war invasion of Iraq.

I'd love to hear from you God as I've tried to reach you more times than I care to remember. Maybe this time I'll be surprised and you can do something about W. Otherwise, it's really up to we humans to be active and demand a full investigation of Team W.

Looking forward to hearing from you soon.

Best,
Mary

[Amaryllis]

48. These neocons are INSANE!

[s1rkull]

51. Cooked Iraqi elections?

I'm asking because I haven't been able to find reliable answers: Is the ticket that won the Iraqi elections the preferred choice of the American government? I know that Allawi's ticket only ranked in the teens, and I assumed that they were the favored ticket of our government? Maybe not though; I've just not been able to find out for sure.

[Disturbed]

53. June 2005 military draft

How long does it take to get even 5K troops ready for active duty in a combat zone? Aprox. how many would be needed for war with Iran and Syria?