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Dr Ron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-05 09:28 PM
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Condi to Become VP?
Many right wing blogs are getting excited about this scenario:

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=42938
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The Sheik Donating Member (349 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-05 09:29 PM
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1. NOPE!
She's black. Say goodbye to the White Supremecist vote.
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Skip Intro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-05 09:32 PM
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3. You're absolutely right about that
Edited on Sun Feb-20-05 09:33 PM by Skip Intro
the racist right won't be able to overcome their bigotry, and lost in conflict with themselves, they won't vote.

I hope they do run condi.

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despairing optimist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-05 12:36 AM
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32. Nah. The MSM will begin a propaganda campaign to convince us she's white
And all the polls will show her "white" numbers going up regularly.
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-05 09:43 PM
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6. she's black?!?!?!?!?!?
oh yea, that's right, that's why we don't think she'll be very diplomatic diplomat.
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tinanator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-05 10:46 PM
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17. remember Colin Powell's "will he, won't he?" tour in 95?
that ended with 12 Republicans lining up at a press conference saying they wouldnt wouldnt support him. Next day he broke the sad news he wouldnt run. Window dressing.
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Tomee450 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-05 12:12 AM
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25. Exactly
I remember that group. I believe Gary Bauer was one of its members. They said that if Powell did run his record would be carefully examined. Condi Rice will never be part of the Republican presidential ticket. Race still matters in this country.
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tinanator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-05 12:32 AM
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30. Id kill for that video
that is the hardest story Ive ever tried to track down. I spose a stack of Newsweek/Times from the library might get me there.
Any tips?
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Ready4Change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-05 09:46 PM
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7. Bush is a lame duck.
He's not concerned with re-election. And Condi has demonstrated an ability to stick to the administration line no matter how degrading to her reputation it might be. A female Colin Powell, as it were.

By making her VP the GOP can get kudos for both the first woman and first black VP, without any risk that she might interfere with policy.

It's a shame. There was a time I would have been psyched to see this as a possibility. But I've just seen her blatantly lie and skirm to avoid telling the truth that I can no longer trust a thing she has to say.
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Hippo_Tron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-05 01:16 AM
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34. But if she is VP it is likely she will run for POTUS in 2008
And there in lies the problem.
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detroitguy Donating Member (245 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-05 09:30 PM
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2. I have been expecting that...
...for a while now. I'd actually be surprised if it did not heppen.
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asthmaticeog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-05 09:33 PM
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4. What was that Chris Rock joke?
Something like there'll never be a black VP, because then some brother would off the Prez so he could "elect" the first black president?
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Vektor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-05 10:48 PM
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20. What is that pic on the left -
I have seen it before, with that weird creature (not Bush, the OTHER weird creature!) it looks familiar - but I cannot place it.

(???)
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asthmaticeog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-05 12:06 AM
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24. "The Shining"
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Vektor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-05 08:55 PM
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35. Of course!
Ok - I haven't seen that movie in years.
Thanks!
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Igel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-05 09:38 PM
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5. If the first black person to be prez or VP was also the first
woman, *and* she was a conservative ...

I think my wife just might have to call an ambulance after I passed out from laughing. I don't think I could stand the irony. Or the posturing. Or the responses.
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DemGirl7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-05 09:51 PM
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8. If it is true...
Edited on Sun Feb-20-05 09:52 PM by DemGirl7
Bush will be happy, he loves Condi, the bad part of this is I personally don't like her, because she is a bushbot, and a Liar. But I personally think this pure BS.
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Erika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-05 10:01 PM
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9. Who cares about her color, she's a liar.
Who is responsible for our kid's dying without cause.
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ClayZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-05 12:22 AM
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28. Sweet, wasn't she named after "sweetness" something?
Edited on Mon Feb-21-05 12:23 AM by ClayZ

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qwghlmian Donating Member (768 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-05 10:20 PM
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10. If Rice runs as a VP candidate
in 2008, what percentage of black vote do you think Republicans will get?

I would expect at least 30% or so, if not 50%. That would beat the miniscule "white supremacist" non-voting hands down.

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googly Donating Member (801 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-05 10:28 PM
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11. You got that right, brother....CONdi could draw as high as 35% of
black votes, and that would be fatal to the democrat nominee.
And there certainly will be a loss of the redneck vote, my guess
is aprox half the number of additional black votes she gets.
So you do the arithmetic.
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Starbucks Anarchist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-05 10:32 PM
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13. I doubt she would get a boost from black voters
She's been in W's hip pocket since he started, yet black voters still voted for Kerry 9-1. Elevating her to VP wouldn't help.
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qwghlmian Donating Member (768 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-05 10:41 PM
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16. Having an elected black VP would be historic -
that's a lot different from having a black SOS or a black NSA. When you vote, you don't vote for an SOS. But faced with a vote for a black VP, I can guarantee much much higher black vote for Republicans than 10%.
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Tomee450 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-05 12:20 AM
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27. I don't think so.
A lot of black people do not care for Ms. Rice. Clarence Thomas has shown the folly of supporting someone simply because he is of the same race. To paraphrase Al Sharpton, just because someone is your skin folk doesn't mean he's your kin folk......(or something like that).
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ProgressiveConn Donating Member (820 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-05 11:45 PM
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37. Who says we are not going to run a black man or woman in 08?
Obama as VP?

The real question is if Bush appoints her VP after a Cheney step down and they run her for Pres. Then what will we do?
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mattclearing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-05 10:28 PM
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12. Please run her. That would be fantastic.
I would love to see her debate any of the Democratic possibilities. Good luck, Condi.
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qwghlmian Donating Member (768 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-05 10:34 PM
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14. You would do well not to underestimate
Rice. She got her bachelor's degree at 19 cum laude and Phi Beta Kappa, her master's at 20, then went on to a doctorate. She was a professor of political science at Stanford. She is no dummy.
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mattclearing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-05 10:47 PM
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18. She's also no politician.
And Boxer showed that she cannot handle criticism under pressure. She will be destroyed.

Bring her on!
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tinanator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-05 10:47 PM
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19. never learned that lying was wrong though?
maybe Im the idiot?
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thebigidea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-05 12:13 AM
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26. yeah, and she plays piano too. she's still a robot zombie asshole
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Tomee450 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-05 12:23 AM
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29. But Rice
has a tendency to get nervous and her voice shakes. I don't know if she would do that well with a good debater.
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qwghlmian Donating Member (768 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-05 12:32 AM
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31. As a VP candidate, she would not
really have to debate much, if at all.

People who responded here who think that having a black VP (and a woman to boot) on the ticket will not give Republicans at least 30%, and probably a lot more, of the black vote, don't really know what they're talking about. Yes, black leaders will be against Rice, but probably a lot less vehemently than they would have been against any other Republican, and the black voting "street" (or at least a very significant portion of it) will see the color of her skin first.
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carpe diem Donating Member (769 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-05 01:12 AM
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33. GWB can't even talk and he's working on ....
his 2nd term...if u have an R behind your name, the normal rules on't apply...she can get pasted in every debate and the MSM will declare her winner anyway...and who exactly will be putting pressure on her...Boxer will not be the moderator...
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CatholicEdHead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-05 10:34 PM
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15. I hear her pushed for President all the time
on other right wing boards. It's the epic Condi vs Hillary matchup.
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mattclearing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-05 10:49 PM
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21. What a lame thought process.
This isn't the WWE or Trans-fricking-formers. Catfight for president!

I hate to say it, but the Republican Party will consume itself if they attempt to nominate a black woman.

Their base will eat itself alive.
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candy331 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-05 10:55 PM
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22. OK Democrats beat them to the draw on this one!
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-05 11:52 PM
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23. The Repubs want Hilliary to run for Pres.
The Dems want Condi.

A bit strange, eh?
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charles_nys Donating Member (48 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-05 09:06 PM
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36. Let's not forget ......
when you have the repukes rigging the voting machines anything is possible!
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John_H Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-05 03:26 PM
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38. Sweet! Then we run Clark or Edwards and win by 100 EVs
There goes NC, AR, NV, WV, FL, and KY.
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