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coloradodem2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-21-05 02:48 AM Original message |
Something is really pissing me off: what I am seeing in Christianity. |
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HamiltonHabs32 (465 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-21-05 02:54 AM Response to Original message |
1. hear hear |
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A HERETIC I AM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-21-05 03:29 AM Response to Reply #1 |
5. A = Without Theos = God |
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Erika (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-21-05 02:54 AM Response to Original message |
2. Take a deep breath |
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coloradodem2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-21-05 02:57 AM Response to Reply #2 |
3. Well, people need to be made to realize this. |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-21-05 03:05 AM Response to Original message |
4. Visit a local UCC or find a Quaker meeting if you'd like some rational |
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autorank (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-21-05 03:49 AM Response to Reply #4 |
6. Coloradodem2005, mzmolly is SOOOOOO RIGHT ON WITH THIS! DO IT. |
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Ellen Forradalom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-05 11:24 AM Response to Reply #6 |
88. Quakers rock |
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xchrom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-21-05 05:29 AM Response to Original message |
7. the faith has a cancer in it. |
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radfringe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-21-05 05:42 AM Response to Original message |
8. what is even more scary |
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mwb970 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-21-05 05:50 AM Response to Reply #8 |
9. It's our fundies vs. their fundies. |
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radfringe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-21-05 06:57 AM Response to Reply #9 |
10. from the Dean-Perlman debate |
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FreedomAngel82 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-21-05 01:39 PM Response to Reply #8 |
38. So true |
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DARE to HOPE (552 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-21-05 02:27 PM Response to Reply #38 |
51. Yes. El-Hebrew, Al-Arabic... |
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Lydia Leftcoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-21-05 02:38 PM Response to Reply #38 |
52. Yes, "Allah" is simply the Arabic word for "God" |
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Skidmore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-21-05 08:24 AM Response to Original message |
11. Dobson, Falwell, Robertson and those like them do not |
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lonestarnot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-21-05 09:51 AM Response to Reply #11 |
15. cults for cash! n/t |
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SharonAnn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-21-05 03:18 PM Response to Reply #15 |
61. Oooh, I like that! May I borrow it? "Cults for Cash!" sounds good. |
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lonestarnot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-22-05 07:31 PM Response to Reply #61 |
78. Go for it! |
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ginnyinWI (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-21-05 01:37 PM Response to Reply #11 |
37. It's Fear v.s. Hope |
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DARE to HOPE (552 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-21-05 04:42 PM Response to Reply #37 |
69. Well said. |
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ginnyinWI (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-21-05 05:30 PM Response to Reply #69 |
75. it's all good, Dare to Hope! |
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DARE to HOPE (552 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-22-05 12:33 PM Response to Reply #75 |
77. Picture a young clergyman with long hair and a beard, and "love"... |
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elshiva (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-05 02:19 PM Response to Reply #37 |
90. Thank you for plugging the Episcopalians, ginny! |
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FreedomAngel82 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-21-05 01:40 PM Response to Reply #11 |
39. Don't |
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Vinnie From Indy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-21-05 08:26 AM Response to Original message |
12. For Some Odd Reason, The religious right in this country |
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tinanator (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-21-05 09:47 AM Response to Original message |
13. dont throw the baby Jesus out with the bathwater |
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Vinnie From Indy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-21-05 11:48 AM Response to Reply #13 |
23. Religious ideology has also KILLED more people than any other single idea! |
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ginnyinWI (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-21-05 01:40 PM Response to Reply #13 |
40. true |
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FreedomAngel82 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-21-05 01:41 PM Response to Reply #13 |
41. In the Bible it teaches |
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charles_nys (48 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-05 09:01 AM Response to Reply #41 |
86. self deleted |
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noel711 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-21-05 09:50 AM Response to Original message |
14. I hear ya... |
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ClassWarrior (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-21-05 09:52 AM Response to Original message |
16. No colorado, these people AREN'T forcing their will on everyone else... |
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DemBones DemBones (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-21-05 10:26 AM Response to Reply #16 |
19. Excellent point! The misguided |
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MountainLaurel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-05 03:25 PM Response to Reply #19 |
91. Maybe |
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FreedomAngel82 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-21-05 01:45 PM Response to Reply #16 |
44. All the people in my church |
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DARE to HOPE (552 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-21-05 04:15 PM Response to Reply #44 |
63. ..."or if Bush screws up?" |
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ClassWarrior (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-21-05 04:49 PM Response to Reply #44 |
72. Yes, but the truth will NOT set us free. |
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CANDO (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-21-05 10:07 AM Response to Original message |
17. I suggest this book; "What's Wrong With The Christian Right" .... |
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Touchdown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-21-05 01:32 PM Response to Reply #17 |
35. Another book to recommend. |
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FreedomAngel82 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-21-05 01:48 PM Response to Reply #35 |
45. Also don't forget |
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DARE to HOPE (552 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-21-05 04:18 PM Response to Reply #45 |
64. The Reverend Jim Wallis. |
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DemBones DemBones (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-21-05 10:22 AM Response to Original message |
18. Are you aware that |
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Vinnie From Indy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-21-05 12:00 PM Response to Reply #18 |
24. Let's look at the scoreboard shall we? |
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No Exit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-21-05 10:36 AM Response to Original message |
20. You are being court-martialed from God's army |
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BlackVelvet04 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-21-05 11:17 AM Response to Original message |
21. I understand |
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Touchdown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-21-05 01:41 PM Response to Reply #21 |
42. Neither Ventura nor Maher are "on the left". |
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FreedomAngel82 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-21-05 01:54 PM Response to Reply #42 |
47. That's one reason why |
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Touchdown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-21-05 03:03 PM Response to Reply #47 |
57. That's right. They even wear the same purple band-aids. |
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BlackVelvet04 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-21-05 04:25 PM Response to Reply #42 |
65. I disagree |
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Eawyn (19 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-21-05 04:44 PM Response to Reply #21 |
70. Bill Maher's quote sounds an awful lot like some from our founding fathers |
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Felix Mala (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-21-05 11:22 AM Response to Original message |
22. As they get further and further from anything resembling Christ's |
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DARE to HOPE (552 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-21-05 12:36 PM Response to Original message |
25. The Church is larger and more rooted than this heretical movement... |
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me b zola (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-21-05 02:25 PM Response to Reply #25 |
50. That was a beautiful post. Thank you. |
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DoYouEverWonder (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-21-05 12:41 PM Response to Original message |
26. Print out 4 of these |
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DARE to HOPE (552 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-21-05 01:09 PM Response to Reply #26 |
30. Hey, I love that poster! Thanks! |
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DoYouEverWonder (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-21-05 01:16 PM Response to Reply #30 |
31. Here's a link |
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independentchristian (393 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-21-05 12:47 PM Response to Original message |
27. Incorrect post |
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Vinnie From Indy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-21-05 12:50 PM Response to Reply #27 |
28. Good Post! |
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EVDebs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-21-05 12:52 PM Response to Original message |
29. Founding Fathers were mostly Freemasons. Research the basics |
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ArkDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-21-05 01:19 PM Response to Original message |
32. What was that old Nat King Cole song? |
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Democrat Dragon (699 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-21-05 01:22 PM Response to Original message |
33. Like the saying goes: |
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pstans (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-21-05 01:29 PM Response to Original message |
34. I totally agree |
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FreedomAngel82 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-21-05 01:34 PM Response to Original message |
36. I know how you feel |
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DARE to HOPE (552 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-21-05 01:44 PM Response to Reply #36 |
43. A quiet question might be for you to bring up the war... |
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coloradodem2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-21-05 02:02 PM Response to Reply #43 |
48. The problem is... |
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DARE to HOPE (552 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-21-05 02:49 PM Response to Reply #48 |
55. Yes, (chuckling) I can see what you mean... |
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coloradodem2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-21-05 03:09 PM Response to Reply #55 |
59. What. |
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DARE to HOPE (552 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-21-05 04:33 PM Response to Reply #59 |
66. Your confused friend was probably pretty shocked... |
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coloradodem2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-21-05 04:46 PM Response to Reply #66 |
71. He knows I am disaffected. |
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DemGa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-21-05 01:49 PM Response to Original message |
46. That's why I consider myself a gnostic thinker |
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XemaSab (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-21-05 02:19 PM Response to Original message |
49. There ARE liberal churches |
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newportdadde (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-21-05 02:40 PM Response to Original message |
53. It has been my experience in life.. |
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coloradodem2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-21-05 02:48 PM Response to Reply #53 |
54. It is also my experience that... |
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Vinnie From Indy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-21-05 03:13 PM Response to Reply #53 |
60. I'll give that a rousing "Amen". I share that experience of people |
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NAO (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-21-05 03:02 PM Response to Original message |
56. The Bloodguilty Churches - Bush/GOP Platform is anti-Christian, anti-Bible |
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NAO (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-21-05 03:07 PM Response to Original message |
58. Jesus Condems the Social Conservatives AND the Economic Conservatives |
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SharonAnn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-21-05 03:27 PM Response to Reply #58 |
62. Thank you for the excellent summary. These are the passages I |
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mwb970 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-21-05 04:37 PM Response to Reply #62 |
68. They do take the "Christ" out of "Christianity", don't they? n/t |
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chalky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-05 02:58 AM Response to Reply #58 |
83. Matthew 23, baby. |
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Eawyn (19 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-21-05 04:37 PM Response to Original message |
67. One of my friends is a liberal, democrat, southern Baptist |
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DARE to HOPE (552 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-21-05 04:56 PM Response to Reply #67 |
73. Hope he laughed in his face... |
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Eawyn (19 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-21-05 05:01 PM Response to Reply #73 |
74. he was really offended by that...he really hates the Republican party!! :- |
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bobbieinok (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-21-05 05:45 PM Response to Reply #67 |
76. a black female pentecostal democrat in 2000 (an acquaintance) |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-05 12:16 AM Response to Reply #76 |
79. LOL |
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kitkat65 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-05 12:50 AM Response to Original message |
80. I honestly don't see how the right wingers vision of Christianity within |
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jojo54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-05 12:57 AM Response to Original message |
81. Personally I don't see how religion & politics go together |
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Erika (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-05 01:17 AM Response to Original message |
82. My Lutheran friend/co-worker |
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Sugarbleus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-05 02:58 AM Response to Original message |
84. I feel your pain Colorado.... |
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mainer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-05 07:43 AM Response to Original message |
85. be sure to differentiate between evangelicals and fundamentalists! |
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charles_nys (48 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-05 09:05 AM Response to Original message |
87. This site is a MUST read ... |
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chalky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-05 01:32 PM Response to Reply #87 |
89. There's a phrase for this kind of behavior--it's called "gang membership" |
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