Why Doesn't Lieberman Just Move To The Republican Party

[Jon8503]

On ABC News, saying the demonstrators in Brussels have to deal with the US.

Bush was reelected by the American People.

The majority of Americans support his policies.

Guess he is taking over Zell Miller's democractic spot of working for the republicans. You suppose he will speak at the next republican conventions as Miller did.

[AFSCME girl]

1. I wish he would go already...

I can't even look at him or listen to him anymore! :puke:

[Jon8503]

2. Agree, never did like to listen to his mushy winey voicce & did not like

looking at him either.

[AFSCME girl]

4. I never could understand how someone

could switch or modify their ideologies, either. I guess cuz am such a "died in the wool" Liberal...if all of a sudden I became a Republican :scared: I would have to totally change who I am.

[piece sine]

27. WHAT?!

as if we need yet-ANOTHER Repub vote in the Senate!!!

[Jamastiene]

3. I wish Al Gore had never picked him

as his running mate. I didn't like Lieberman then and I don't like him now. He's a right wing Bushie cheerleader.

[Jon8503]

5. Thats right, probably using Bush's & Trent Lotts pom poms. N/T.

[Jawja]

6. And why isn't he leading

the charge in Congress to get at the bottom of the naked prostitute in the White House Press Corps posing as a "journalist?"

I distinctly remember his diatribes against Clinton over Monica.

Where is your outrage, NOW, Holy Joe??

[HughBeaumont]

7. Same here.

He was a complete DRAG on that candidacy; after hearing about his BS with Pat Robertson on the 700 Club proposing that government needs to crack down tighter on the arts, his severe DLC leanings and his calls for "bridge building" with a party that never has and never will care about the little guy, Joementum can take a flying leap into the mushroom cloud we'll most likely see as a result of this administration.

[Jacobin]

8. He can do more damage as an infiltrater

He can go on FAUX news and be the 'good democrat", he can undermine policies from within. he can push the PNAC agenda as a dem and make it a bipartisan movement.

Moles are much more effective and destructive to their enemies from within the enemy

[jen4clark]

17. My thoughts exactly ! n/t

[Jeff in Cincinnati]

9. ...because he's a Democrat

Honestly, he's not my favorite Democrat, but when you look at his ratings from various liberal an conservative organizations, he's consistently left of center. Not as far as most other Democrats and certainly not as far as I would like him to be -- but he's a damned sight better that every other Republican, and that includes such "favorites" as John McCain, Olympia Snow, and Lincoln Chaffee.

[Padraig18]

10. Because he has a solid progressive record.

Other then his hawkish stands on foreign policy and defense, Joe Lieberman has one of the most progressive voting records in the US Senate. I could Google it, but just from memory, he has a lifetime 78 rating from the ADA, which is higher than Dennis Kucinich's lifetime rating.

[charlie]

12. Again, no

Kucinich has a lifetime rating of 90. Joe's is 76.

[Padraig18]

13. Prove it. n/t

[charlie]

21. Visit the lifetime pages at ADA

Kucinich Lifetime 90%
http://www.adaction.org/ho00037.htm

Lieberman Lifetime 76%
http://www.adaction.org/lifetimesenconnecticut.html

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Yeah, they haven't been updated for years, 1999 in Kucinich's case, 2000 for Lieberman. We'll have do it with the records from ADA:

2003 Lieberman 70%
http://www.adaction.org/2003senatevr.htm

2003 Kucinich 90%
http://www.adaction.org/2003housevr.htm

2002 Lieberman 85%
http://www.adaction.org/SenateVR2002.htm

2002 Kucinich 80%
http://www.adaction.org/HouseVR2002.htm

2001 Lieberman 95%
http://www.adaction.org/Senate2001fullVR.pdf

2001 Kucinich 85%
http://www.adaction.org/Hse2001vr.pdf

2000 Lieberman 75%
http://adaction.org/senatevr2000.html

2000 Kucinich 80%
http://adaction.org/housevr2000.html

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Lieberman lifetime: 78%
Kucinich lifetime: 86%
(Rounding up from higher than .5 in both cases)

Lieberman doesn't have a higher lifetime average than Kucinich.

[Padraig18]

24. OK, but 76% hardly makes Lieberman a Republican.

That's actually the point.

[charlie]

25. I said nothing about that

Kucinich is the wrong guy to measure against in ADA ratings if you want to show how Joe bests some Democrats in "progressive" assessments. That's the point.

[Padraig18]

26. I know you didn't.

My comment was directed at this thead and others like it that appear on a ridiculously predictable basis here at DU.

[still_one]

11. because he is there to help destory the democratic party

I really think that part of the strategy of the republicans, was to infiltrate the democratic party with republicans

[Padraig18]

14. How quickly we forget.

Am I the only person at DU who remember JL's savage attack on the Repubs for impeaching Bill Clinton? Am I the only one who remembers his mini-filibuster in Favor of Title IX funding? There MANY are more examples like that, rest assured.

:wtf:

[still_one]

28. I remember

but those are two different issues. One was the stupidity of a sitting president to screw around with an intern, and another is ideology.

I am referring to ideology

[Tinoire]

29. Savage attacks? Lol

You're more possibly the only one fooled by those pearls.

On edit- Make that Machiavellic CRUMB pearls.

[Padraig18]

30. I apologize for him being to the right of Lenin and Mao.

I'm so sorry he can't live up to your image of a perfect liberal.

:eyes:

[BrainRants]

15. ...or go back to playing Willie on Alf! n/t

[Q]

16. Many Democrats don't seem to understand Joe's role in the party...

...and it's to their own detriment.

Joe's job...as a member and past president of the DLC...is to help move the party to the right while getting rid of the liberal/progressive 'baggage' of the Labor Left and the New Deal.

They're against any kind of activism...in this country or elsewhere. This is because they're sponsored by the same defense/energy corporations as the GOPers. Losing support of these cash hogs would lessen their influence in the Dem party and their ability to keep progressive candidates out and their chosen corporate-friendly candidates in.

[Jon8503]

18. I would rather have Olympia Snow or Lincoln Chaffee than

Liberman

[FightinNewDem]

31. Bliss is Ignorance

Let's compare the numbers, shall we?

ACLU (2003-04):

Lieberman: 83%
Snowe: 56%
Chaffee: 67%


Human Rights Campaign (2003-04):

Lieberman: 88%
Snowe: 50%
Chaffee: 88%


Human Rights Campaign (2001-02):

Lieberman: 100%
Snowe: 60%
Chaffee: 100%


Leadership Conference on Civil Rights (2003):

Lieberman: 95%
Snowe: 28%
Chaffee: 28%


NAACP (2001-02):

Lieberman: 94%
Snowe: 36%
Chaffee: 48%

Campaign for Working Families (Gary Bauer):

Lieberman: 7%
Snowe: 65%
Chaffee: 57%

National Education Association (2003)

Lieberman: 86%
Snowe: 55%
Chaffee: 55%


Sierra Club (2003):

Lieberman: 100%
Snowe: 60%
Chaffee: 80%


United Auto Workers (2004):

Lieberman: 92%
Snowe: 45%
Chaffee: 36%


AFL-CIO (2003):

Lieberman: 100%
Snowe: 31%
Chaffee: 31%

[bread_and_roses]

19. Well said, Q

What good are the constantly reiterated environmental, etc. records of these Democrats - Joe and Hillary among them - when they support the very Corporist Imperialism destroying the planet? Since when is war and poverty "good for children and other living things"? When they vote to undermine civil liberties and legal recourse for corporate accountablility - our feeble tools against the accumulated wealth and power of the Oligarchy? What good is a "D" after your name when you are voting for torturers and war-mongers?

[sojourner]

20. The "kiss" told me all I needed to know

When Dubya kissed Joe, I recalled when he kissed McCain. Kiss to let us all know who they've given their allegiance to.

Joe'll whore for Bush just like McCain. In fact, I wonder about those kisses and if they aren't exactly that: symbolic messages of ownership.

[lonestarnot]

22. Agreed! This candy-ass brown nose can take his nose ring anywhere

but where he's elected to it seems!

[robbedvoter]

23. He can do more damage as a "democrat for Bush". Old tactic.

I wonder if Dean will figure out a way of booting people from the party.