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caligirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-05 12:21 PM
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Credible Evidence Emerges That Jeff Gannon Coordinated With the G.O.P. to


Bring Down Former Senate Minority Leader Tom Daschle (D-SD) in 2004 Election

Post-Election, Daschle Campaign Aide Says Thune and Gannon "Worked Hand in Hand"; Gannon's Work in South Dakota Shows Substantial Ties to Current Thune Campaign Staffer Jason Van Beek

By ADVOCATE STAFF

The National Republican Senatorial Committee Chairman singled out South Dakota Senator-elect John Thune (R) for special praise, noting that he ousted the first leader of either party running for reelection in over 50 years. He had previously said that beating Daschle would be like picking up three seats.
















http://nashuaadvocate.blogspot.com/2005/02/credible-evidence-emerges-that-jeff.html
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-05 12:23 PM
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1. Conason covers this as well. But CNN is all over "the tapes"
So, it must be true.
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ClintonTyree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-05 12:35 PM
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8. These tapes are nothing..............
yet the press is all over it like stink on shit.

In Gannongate, they have a REAL scandal but refuse to cover it in a fashion befitting it's gravity.

The bought and paid for MSM will NEVER have my eyes again. Except of course KO, who's chewing on this like a piece of red meat.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-05 12:42 PM
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11. That's enough proof for me
About the tapes. I bet it'll end up being nothing. But yet will they get in trouble like Rather? Of course not. :eyes: I bet you Rove planted them and this person.
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radiofreesrini Donating Member (72 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 04:06 AM
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48. it's gotta be "something-gate"....
Edited on Wed Feb-23-05 04:07 AM by radiofreesrini
as if abu ghraib wasn't enough... here's steaming, stinking proof that america has been hijacked by some depraved, lying fucks.

for some reason americans were unmoved to outrage by the sight of kids and women being blown up by our initial bombardment and subsequent consolidation of iraq.

perhaps when drudge, rice, rove, rumsfeld, the bushes including one of the twins, mclellan, limbaugh and coulter show their true colors, america will snap out of its hypnosis?

-rfs
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9119495 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-05 01:09 PM
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16. I'm with you. I'm much better off for not watching all that
shit I used to watch. I watch KO and the Daily Show, read DU and a few other outside sources. I'm happier and I know just as much. I'm going to send some E-mails soon to Mathews, Blitzer, et. al. to see if they miss me.

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nascarblue Donating Member (693 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-05 09:13 PM
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32. There's still Democracy Now! and Free Speech TV
http://www.democracynow.org and

http://www.freespeech.org/fsitv/fscm2/genx.php?name=home

Sometimes you just have to WATCH something. That's why I try to make a daily visit to these two sites. I don't have Direct TV or a dish. I have cable.
So it's still out there, but unless you have Dish Satellite, you're shit out of luck. Thank god we still have the internet.
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johnnyrocket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-05 11:11 PM
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39. CNN is TRYING very hard to make the tapes a 'story'...
...and doing a pathetic job at that. They pull out quotes about gays, pot smoking, bla bla bla...it's all baloney...total diversion from the real scandals.
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Ouabache Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-05 02:58 AM
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42. Does CNN pull out any quotes about the Christian Right?
I am guessing they are skipping those quotes where Bush says the Christian Right is a little nuts about Gays. He talked to Wead about his conversations with DOBSON. Any CNN headlines that say " Bush tapes reveal Bush thinks Dobson and Focus on the Family are nuts.'"

The headlines about the tapes are all so innocuous. No headline saying anything about Bush being a hypocrite.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-05 09:59 AM
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45. It's all a bunch of fluff
Someone is trying to send out a message to stay away from the Guckert story. This story could possibly put a big hole in that administration. Definietly keep on it. I don't know why but I think if somehow it's found out who invited him to those parties it could possibly be found out who is apart of this and go from there. I think that's a huge part of this weird puzzle.
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radiofreesrini Donating Member (72 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 04:16 AM
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49. CNN is the Ministry of Truth
last week i was in the airport watching some pathetic special they threw together on "the threat of 'eco-terrorism'".

turns out some angry environmental kid sent a mean letter to some lumberjacks or something. so they did a fucking special on it.

ooo. big threat, thanks for the heads-up, cnn....

<b>WHAT ABOUT WHITE SUPREMACISTS?!? </b>

betcha dollars to doughnuts you won't see no twenty-minute expose on the (biological? nuclear?!) weapons they've stashed over the last four years! those motherfuckers have been shielded by ashcroft and the media and are armed to the teeth!

ROT IN HELL CNN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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evilqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 04:17 AM
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50. the tapes are a diversion from the gannon story
anyone else think so?
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 05:00 AM
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51. Yup.
And as long as Gannongate continues to break, more is to come from Rove and company.
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cthrumatrix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-05 12:24 PM
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2. Gannon could strip naked and hump W's photo and the press would
turn their heads.

Wake up.... corporate media has been told NOT to investigate.
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RobertSeattle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-05 12:27 PM
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3. Slight correction - aren't they forgetting Speaker of House Foley in 1994?
The GOP specifically targetted WA Rep and speaker of the House Foley in 1994.

So the GOP has a track record of this.
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kainah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-05 11:39 PM
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40. they're saying leader in the Senate
but, otherwise, you're right. They have a record of it.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-05 12:28 PM
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4. you know-it is up to the msm to diss the tapes!1 it is their job:-)
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Vinnie From Indy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-05 12:28 PM
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5. I wonder if Daschle would do ANYTHING different if he could go back
and have another chance.
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-05 12:29 PM
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6. If only we lived in a Free Country, this might be investigated
But we live in Amerika, and Gannon G. Guckert is a member of THE PARTY.

Watch carefully now, as the scandal disappears down the Memory Hole, uninvestigated and unremembered.

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Tomee450 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-05 01:04 PM
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14. Exactly
I will be very surprised if this scandal goes anywhere.
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brainshrub Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-05 04:01 PM
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22. Gannon/Guckert/Bulldog will have his own radio show & book deal
within 9 months.
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tx_dem41 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-05 12:31 PM
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7. This is definitely a good angle to promote this whole Guckert issue.
Edited on Mon Feb-21-05 12:32 PM by tx_dem41
Its frustrating that it isn't being written about widely at all in the MSM.
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Al-CIAda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-05 12:40 PM
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9. This is why LEADERSHIP needs to get involved.
If they don't make a stink, apparently they're fine with losing.
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tx_dem41 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-05 12:41 PM
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10. Well, this angle definitely personalizes it with present and past...
.leadership. Maybe that will work.
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truthpusher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-05 01:01 PM
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12. This was posted last night by nashuaadvocate...
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Vinnie From Indy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-05 08:42 AM
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43. kick n/t
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candy331 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-05 01:03 PM
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13. Kerry needs to be the one to speak on this, after all millions voted
to give him the top office in the land so he could repay them back by taking on a real issue.Kerry can vault to the top with this. Does he have the guts to do so.
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peacebird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-05 01:07 PM
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15. no - Kerry will remain silent.
he SHOULD speak out, but he has been part of the organization too long. He will not rock the boat.
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ebayfool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-05 09:27 PM
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33. No point in even trying - yeah, Kerry - uh huh - let's just wail on him ..
Edited on Mon Feb-21-05 09:37 PM by djmaddox1
some more! WTF does bitching @ Kerry have to do w/the ho crap in the WH?

edited cuz I'm so frigging tired of hearing the 'poor us, Kerry won't beat up the bad man bullshit'! You're beating up on the wrong guy here ... the enemy is thata way - remember? The piece of scum in the white house? Or are we supposed to get off the subject of the immoral POS in the WH, & back to thumping on Kerry? Just to make sure that no one is looking at the current train wreck? Misdirection & sleight of hand - don't look here ... look there ... look at Kerry?
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TayTay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-05 10:07 PM
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35. Why Kerry?
What does the internal machinations of the White Press office have to do with John Kerry? I can see asking for Judiciary to call for an investigation, but Kerry is not on Judiciary. It doesn't have anything to do with any of his other committee assignments or any expertise that he has. Why does he bear any responsibility for this at all? There are other Democrats who occasionally show up for work on Capitol Hill. Why Kerry on this particular matter?
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Bethany Rockafella Donating Member (916 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-05 01:33 PM
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17. Gannon is probably hearing this phrase in his mind:
What goes around, comes around.

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Callboy Donating Member (167 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-05 01:39 PM
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18. The Truth May Make Him Pee
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LosinIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-05 12:37 AM
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41. and you can watch him, for a fee
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tinanator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-05 09:02 PM
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31. more like
twice as much for a reach around
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qanda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-05 01:40 PM
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19. Go to this site and follow the Talon News link
http://www.pettisgop.org/id1.html

This has nothing to do with Tom Daschle, but it does appear that Talon News was being used as an arm of the Republican Party. You just have to wonder who gave them that access.
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d---mad2 Donating Member (33 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-05 02:28 PM
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20. Were the e-voting machines used in the S. Dak. elections?
Just curious
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Demrock6 Donating Member (717 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-05 05:19 PM
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24. I think it was optical scans. Not 100% but they seem pretty poplualr.
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Vinnie From Indy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-05 03:44 PM
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21. Kick n/t
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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-05 05:03 PM
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23. And another
:kick:
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MadisonProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-05 07:53 PM
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25. This is very interesting
Edited on Mon Feb-21-05 07:55 PM by MadisonProgressive
I'm not very surprised, though. I curse the people with the big infrastructure and the big bucks to address this problem.

They are not doing their jobs. Truth is no longer a virtue.

ON EDIT - I am not a good spellur
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-05 08:05 PM
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26. Corporate Media is protecting itself,...
other Corps.and the Bush JUnta. The Bush Junta is bought and paid for by Multi-Corps and so is the Dem Party, except by other Corps. or...maybe even the same ones. Amerika has been an Oligarchy from the beginning and still is one.
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MadisonProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-05 08:11 PM
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27. Yes, we have that burden too.
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atwitsend Donating Member (9 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-05 08:15 PM
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28. The Gay-Gate Whore Affair!
The Gay-Gate Whore Affair!

Male whore scandal hits White House. Kingpin stayed upstairs with Bush. CBS White House boss John Roberts implicated. Escort Service used by U.S. House and Senate members and Federal Reserve Bank Board. More details blocked by U.S.holiday, Presidents Day. More coming soon
http://www.cloakanddagger.ca/




How fitting..if you don't know who the guys are at cloak and dagger.. will give you a hint. http://www.libertythink.com/2004_04_11_archives.html
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Warren Stupidity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-05 08:40 PM
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29. "J. Guckert" was a volunteer at Talon 'newz'
so how did he pay the rent and keep himself in suits? I sure wish that somebody with a day job as a journalist would get busy on finding out exactly where Guckert got his money from.

Before you say 'Warren, you idiot, he's a hooker', suppose the hooker stuff is just more deception? Suppose we are meant to stop looking for the money trail right there at those stupid web sites.
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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-05 08:47 PM
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30. Gannon's tawdry world of pimps, reporters, drug-dealers, GOP Johns...
media insiders, web-pornographers and D.C. power brokers...

I'd like to know moee about Jeff's friends and "contacts"- and their friends- what they know, what they have been up to.
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ShaneGR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-05 10:00 PM
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34. Not sure why so many here are making such a big deal....
Because when Daschle lost so many on DU cheered. sighs.....
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CAcyclist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-05 10:22 PM
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36. That's simply not true
Find one post where someone here who is not a freeper cheered that Thune won and Daschle lost.
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ShaneGR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-05 10:32 PM
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37. Uhhhh......
You have a star and I do not, so I cannot search. I used to have a star, but it only lasts a year. Mine expired a little after election day.

Anyways, go search november 3rd Daschle and read through the threads. Plenty of, "I'm glad he's gone."
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ChiciB1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-05 10:40 PM
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38. Ain't It Funny How Gannon/Guckert Is
suddenly getting so much press? And the tapes, well I think we are working with two diversions here. The Idiot is on a mission in Europe and we're being fed more syrup!

I don't know why I keep getting amazed at how easily this administration keeps getting away with the most egregious "dirty tricks!" But the stuff keeps flowing and it's no longer plain shit, it's diarrhea now and the fuzzing up continues.

What next?? And why are there so many people who simply put their mug out there on TV and lie through their teeth?? Remember the McCarthy Era and you just have to state the obvious... Have They No Shame???

America, we have reached the bottom of the barrel and there's so much there. Unfortunately it's piled up for so long it's hard to dislodge it all.

Karma, karma, karma. I can only keep "hope" alive!!
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-05 09:41 AM
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44. "So much press"? When? Where? I wish!
Edited on Tue Feb-22-05 09:42 AM by robbedvoter
Am I missing something? It's even fading on DU.
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ChiciB1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-05 12:02 PM
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47. I'm Talking About How The Repukes
are out there putting a POSITIVE face to both Gannon & The Tapes. While it has been reported, I've seen more idiots coming to the fore making the usual "excuses" for the their rights.

Had this information come out about Kerry, I would bet people like the Swifties would be screaming at the top of their lungs about how they were actually right about the lack of VALUES that Kerry had!

But No, instead we get soft ball coverage and an easy landing to MOST of the crap pulled by this WH!

That's the Press I was talking about. Even Olbermann seemed tame recently!
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yellowcanine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-05 11:17 AM
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46. Thune and Gannon "hand in hand"?? Now that detail I didn't need to know.
Heh.
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