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Dinger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-05 01:54 PM
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Damn Good Question!!!! Why Isn't Nocak In Jail???????
http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/05049/459428.stm

Kurtz totally pussy-footed around this one yesterday.
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Dookus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-05 01:57 PM
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1. What do you want him to go to jail for?
Under what law?
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Dinger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-05 02:08 PM
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5. For Violation Of A Federal Law:
"Meanwhile, Bob Novak, the only columnist in the country who actually published Plame's identity in violation of federal law, sits comfortably ensconced on CNN's "The Capital Gang" bloviating as usual."

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Dookus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-05 04:08 PM
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17. I'm asking
WHICH law? No law I know of forbid Novak from publishing the information he had.
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Dinger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-05 10:38 PM
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18. I'm Not A Lawyer
I've only given links, and my perspectives onn them. Your question is good, but too specific for me to answer. Do you know a lawyer? If so, please ask, and let me know. I'd appreciate it.
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Career Prole Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-05 01:58 PM
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2. IMO he should be in the Stony Lonesome already.
If "Someone" leaking it to him is a felony, him leaking it to the country is too. As for evidence...it's on tape! :grr:
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Padraig18 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-05 02:01 PM
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3. What crime, if any, did he commit?
That's the better question.
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Benhurst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-05 02:07 PM
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4. Being born. NT
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mattclearing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-05 02:23 PM
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7. He reported the identity of an undercover CIA agent.
Someone else may have given it to him, but that doesn't change the fact that he did it.

The Bush Administration has threatened reporters for reporting classified information, but somehow it comes as no surprise that this is getting zero play.
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Padraig18 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-05 02:34 PM
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8. Again, what *c-r-i-m-e* did he commit.
Edited on Mon Feb-21-05 02:34 PM by Padraig18
I would like to see a reference to a criminal statute that Novackula violated.
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KansDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-05 02:57 PM
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11. Here's something from the US Code:
TITLE 50--WAR AND NATIONAL DEFENSE

CHAPTER 15--NATIONAL SECURITY


SUBCHAPTER IV--PROTECTION OF CERTAIN NATIONAL SECURITY
INFORMATION

421. Protection of identities of certain United States
undercover intelligence officers, agents, informants,
and sources.
(a) Disclosure of information by persons having or having had
access to classified information that identifies
covert agent.
(b) Disclosure of information by persons who learn identity of
covert agents as result of having access to classified
information.
(c) Disclosure of information by persons in course of pattern
of activities intended to identify and expose covert
agents.
(d) Imposition of consecutive sentences.
422. Defenses and exceptions.
(a) Disclosure by United States of identity of covert agent.
(b) Conspiracy, misprision of felony, aiding and abetting,
etc.
(c) Disclosure to select Congressional committees on
intelligence.
(d) Disclosure by agent of own identity.
423. Report.
(a) Annual report by President to Congress on measures to
protect identities of covert agents.
(b) Exemption from disclosure; date of initial submission.
424. Extraterritorial jurisdiction.
425. Providing information to Congress.
426. Definitions.

http://frwebgate5.access.gpo.gov/cgi-bin/waisgate.cgi?WAISdocID=014816194896+3+0+0&WAISaction=retrieve

Hope this helps!
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Padraig18 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-05 03:02 PM
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14. Is the person who 'disclosed' Novak, or the person who told him?
That's the proper question, IMO.
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KansDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-05 03:13 PM
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15. I see your point--perhaps both are guilty...
The person who first disclosed the information to Novak, and Novak, who gave that information to the public...

One would not have succeeded without the other. If Novak has kept quiet, then no one would be any the wiser...

Perhaps it's a conspiracy!

But then, I'm not a lawyer...
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mattclearing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-05 02:58 PM
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12. Try this one.
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mattclearing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-05 02:20 PM
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6. I've been wondering this frequently lately.
I guess only nobodies get grand juries called for them.
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me b zola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-05 02:37 PM
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9. Novak gives the impression that he believes that he is an
Edited on Mon Feb-21-05 02:38 PM by me b zola
untouchable.

When will we hear anything from the special prosecutor?
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-05 02:55 PM
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10. The question is answered later in the article
What we don't know is whether Novak revealed his source to prosecutors, or whether he is simply enjoying the fruits of years of toadying to the White House.

http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/05049/459428.stm

He very well may have cooperated with investigators. He has never said that he wouldn't.
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Bethany Rockafella Donating Member (916 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-05 02:59 PM
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13. Please spell that bastard's name correctly. I don't think it's too late.
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-05 03:32 PM
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16. A VERY disturbing possibility
So why is it that only two of the three reporters who allegedly "witnessed" the crime are being threatened?...What we don't know is whether Novak revealed his source to prosecutors, or whether he is simply enjoying the fruits of years of toadying to the White House.
Which is why CNN's coverage of the Gannon story bears particularly close scrutiny. Demonizing the bloggers and turning Gannon's illegal whoring into a "privacy issue" would a great way for CNN to get protection for Novak in return.

The malicious White House official's intention appears to have been to discredit Plame's husband...a White House official decided that "outing" the dissident ambassador's wife was acceptable collateral damage -- federal crime or not. Novak agreed and published her name, ending the career of an effective covert spy in the Third World and endangering her contacts.
And that's what makes Novak "a douchebag for liberty" as Jon Stewart puts it. He didn't leak Plame's name for any journalistic "higher good", but to please the Bush regime by carrying out a "special assignment." He has a right to protect his source, but he doesn't have the right to commit a crime. Throw the book at him!

:headbang:
rocknation

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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-05 11:26 PM
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19. Editor and Publisher, I think, said that it was a pretty safe bet
...that he sung like Pavarotti to Fitzgerald's crew.

And I'm sure he did. He looks out for Numbah 1!!
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