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ArtVandaley Donating Member (419 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-05 06:55 PM
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Bush secret tapes: planted by Rove?
Bush smoked pot!
Who gives a shit? This is such stupid, pointless story.
Does anyone think that it may have been leaked by Rove in order to divert attention away from the Gannon story? Nothing really could come out of this, so it wouldn't damage them in the long term, whereas the Gannon story could lead to big trouble.
I say forget about the "secret tapes" and worry about storie that could actually take him down.
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Botany Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-05 07:07 PM
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1. Yes!
Edited on Mon Feb-21-05 07:08 PM by Botany
Yes, si, da Ja, Oui, ..............
Forget up the gay pimp prostitute with ties to porn and hardcore S.M. stuff.
That one with no credentials and the fake name who touches ......
swift boats, Daschl, Rather memos, Plame & joe Wilson, Kerry screwing the intern,
and Sean Hannity.
Also no chance that he was breech in security........

This is Rove working overtime.

Mangate (call it what you want) has to stay front and center.

Stephanie :loveya: Miller


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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-05 07:16 PM
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7. Mangate DOES have to stay front and center: Here's How:
Check out this thread, and the link in it:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x1613467#1613534

The news media DOES have a conscience. It's US.
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suffragette Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-05 07:07 PM
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2. maybe someone in the Administration is close to being outed
The main items being quoted are the bit about pot and this one:
Bush also corrected Wead when he said that an evangelical leader had said Bush promised not to hire gay men and lesbians.

"No, what I said was I wouldn't fire gays," he said on the tapes. "I'm not going to discriminate against people."


The pot issue seems like a smokescreen. He didn't admit it for kid's sake. Yeah, right.

Given the Gannon story, maybe someone in the Adminstration is close to being outed and they're putting this tape out so he can say this has always been his view when the fundamentalists start demanding he fire someone.

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NYCGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-05 07:10 PM
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4. I think it has more to do with the guy who taped them having a book being
Edited on Mon Feb-21-05 07:10 PM by NYCGirl
released now.
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NVMojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-05 07:12 PM
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5. Warning! more Rovian tricks! Red Herring!
*red herring to take energy out of the Prostitute-White House connection *
The Bush private conversations with Doug Wead is a Rovian ruse. The story mimics a scandal only in the fact it claims to be private. The reality is that the corporate media can air it to claim they do report stuff Bush does nto want public. Its all to get focus off of the Gannon Gay Prostitution White House connection. I would bet that if one digs deep into Doug Wead's history and connections it leads to Karl Rove.

more...

http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2005/02/311181.shtml
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Frank Rose Donating Member (108 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-05 07:13 PM
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6. rover did the same thing in 2000 with
the DUI, taking the 'press' away from TANG story. Just how many skeletons have to be in his closet, that the best way to keep people from noticing one is to let another one out?
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DARE to HOPE Donating Member (552 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-05 07:23 PM
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8. You bet it was a Rovian plant...
Edited on Mon Feb-21-05 07:25 PM by DARE to HOPE
...the NYTimes said they scientifically pinned down Bush's voice, but who believes these tapes are more than five years old! "I want ta LEAD!" he says, setting up the line for when he is President SOME DAY.

Brother!

Triad damage control: Bush tapes in the NYTimes, Gannon's plea for understanding and threat to sue in Newsweek, and Bush sweeps off to Europe where he drops an inappropriate remark to a female Belgian journalist, trying hard to change the subject!

His numbers are plummeting, the Gannon story is just beginning to light fires of shocked awareness, people are waking up to the bad economic news...they sure need that new war Ritter says will be in June.
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Al-CIAda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-05 07:51 PM
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9. The 'tapes' are what MSM Bu$hco controlled WANTS you to know about
The "Gannon' scandal is what they DON'T want you to know about.

Tell me which more is more damning.

Just like all the other psy-ops operations, they make shit up.
With this convienient surfacing of 'tapes', since supposidly only 10% have been released, they can do like they do with Osama threats. Magically produce them at will.

...and the media plays along.
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KingoftheJungle Donating Member (355 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-05 08:01 PM
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10. Notice how bush slams the CC in the tapes. Taking attention away
from his true masters at the CNP and other "Christian" fascist organizations.
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DemoTex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-05 08:23 PM
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11. Red Herring. Fog of War. You name it .. pure-T Rovian.
And not only is this fishy business drawing the hounds from Gannon-gate, but it has pundits like Tweety cooing and billing and gushing about how good the tapes actually make Bu$h look. The tapes were released by Rove. No doubt in my small, oft-tricked mind. Rove got a two-fer on this little propaganda trick.

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lala_rawraw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-05 08:24 PM
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12. Yep
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Chicago1 Donating Member (560 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-05 08:27 PM
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13. It TOTALLY SMELLS LIKE ROVE planted the tapes...
The timing is SSSUUURRRREEEE interesting. Just in time to wipe out the gay prostitution story and document leaks. WE ARE NOT STUPID AND WE HAVE FIGURED OUT HOW THIS IDIOT WORKS!!!! Who do they think they're kidding???? The porn stuff/Plame/document leaks/boyfriend inside the White House IS NOT GOING AWAY.


Waiting for the IMPEACHMENT WHILE THE SCANDALS KEEP UNFOLDING
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zippy890 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-05 08:41 PM
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14. Rovian setup for sure !!
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rumpel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-05 09:59 PM
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15. The taped conversation appears to be in preparation of this event in
2000. The man who taped the conversation was a counsel for the first bush and he may well be part of the CNP, of which Morton C. Blackwell is the director. (Leadership Institute)

"Bush's secret religious pandering"
By Skipp Porteous
Adapted from Penthouse, November 2000

http://www.buildingequality.us/ifas/fw/0009/bush.html

all sort of other interesting articles can be found at

http://www.buildingequality.us/ifas/fw/

including this report from the inside of the secretive meetings of the CNP

http://www.buildingequality.us/ifas/fw/9805/cnp.html
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vixengrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-05 10:14 PM
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16. This is totally the "limited hang out" administration.
Something appears to be leaked--but there's always spin. Check out what's in the tapes--he sounds less "gay unfriendly" and the news media seems more interested in the "Well did he smoke ...gasp...pot?" It's fishy.
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snowbird42 Donating Member (240 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-05 10:33 PM
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17. the tapes
are only 10% of the whole taped conversation. They cherry picked what we were to hear
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jen4clark Donating Member (812 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-05 11:13 PM
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18. Yep!
It was my first thought when I heard aboat the tapes. What a fuc*ing joke, huh? This is exactly the type of crap I am now calling the corporate cable news shows on each and every time they spew out such drivel and shove it down our throats over and over and over, just to let them know I'm fed up and I'm not gonna take it anymore!!!

btw, ArtVandaley, I LOVE your name! lol!
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samplegirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-05 12:38 AM
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19. Just watch Fox news
there lies the truth. Not peep about Gannon
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Blue in a Red State Donating Member (639 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-05 12:40 AM
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20. Non-news
Especially about the dope. Here's an almost identical quote during his stint as governor to Newsweek:

"I wouldn't tell your kids that you smoked pot unless you want 'em to smoke pot. I think it's important for leaders, and parents, not to send mixed signals. I don't want some kid saying, 'Well, Governor Bush tried it.'"

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elsiesummers Donating Member (723 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-05 01:58 AM
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21. Very possibly. Certainly only the mild stuff was released
so even if not a Rove tactic, the portion of the tapes released are uneventful. At the very least, the portions of the tapes released chosen by a Bush supporter - not like he was going to release anything terribly dammaging.

I think Bush is trying to move to the center right now (or away from the religions right) because of other tactics they have used - in order to move his agenda forward - which makes me think the tapes could likely be propaganda.
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Zinfandel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-05 02:44 AM
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22. Without a fucking doubt, the timing, how bush likes gays, it complete
Rove propaganda ...keep Gannon story from off the front page...this is all bullshit, as Fox news praises Bush in the tapes...When will we learn when Rove is throwing out his bullshit?
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pauldp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-05 03:23 AM
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23. They are SOOO BUSTED!!! Let's make sure it backfires on them.
They are getting desperate with this tape bullsh*t. Gannongate is not going away. We've got the photos and the truth is just beginning to come out.

I'm just looking forward to people actually taking a second look at the election fraud after the poop hits the fan.

Ha Ha He He He!!
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