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Bush_Eats_Beef Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-05 09:14 PM
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O'Reilly: ACLU focus on Abu Ghraib "undermines military effort in the war"
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,148234,00.html

As you know, I believe the ACLU has become a partisan progressive organization no longer interested in expression of liberties. Rather, it wants to advance a political agenda. As always, I could be wrong, but the evidence weighs in my direction. Now the ACLU has filed a number of information requests, designed to spotlight atrocities by the U.S. military in Iraq and Afghanistan. What this has to do with civil liberties— I don't know. But I do believe the military should be held accountable for what it does, so I have no problem with the request.

The latest expositions released today from the ACLU involve pictures some American soldiers took, pointing weapons at detainees and the beating of an Iraqi accused of rape. Those are the highlights of a thousand-page report.The ACLU has been after military scandals since October of 2003, about the time the Abu Ghraib situation hit. Once again, accountability is necessary but witch hunts are not.

"Talking Points" firmly believes the ACLU wants to undermine the military effort in the war on terror. The ACLU opposes the Patriot Act (search), Guantanamo detentions without lawyers, military tribunals, coercive interrogation, the war in Iraq, and pretty much all aggressive action against terror.

Now I'd really like to know exactly how the ACLU would wage war against terrorists or if it even would. Unfortunately, the ACLU does not answer those kinds of questions, being too busy criticizing any and all action taken into terror war.

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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-05 09:19 PM
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1. The man is such a total asshole that his mouth is a sphincter muscle.
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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-05 09:23 PM
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2. You took the words right out of my mouth...
He's an asshole, a pervert, a hypocrite and a kook. In other words, he's the prototype Republican, circa 2005.
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-05 09:24 PM
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3. Just when I needed a good giggle fit
There you were.

Thanks.
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FlyByNight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-05 09:38 PM
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4. Bill, it's the torture that undermines the effort...
Edited on Mon Feb-21-05 09:40 PM by FlyByNight
you perverted sycophant. And really, what kind of effort can it be when Saudi Arabia somehow avoids serious scrutiny?

Iraq has nothing to do with the War on (Anti-US) Terror. The fact that every stated pretext was proved false and/or lies pretty much destroyed any molecule of credibility the Bush Regime once held.

And what about US government support for seemingly every right-wing terror-state in the post-WWII era? I don't seem to remember any apology or even a somber acknowledgment for past policies.

And what kind of seemingly enlightened nation/people would actually excuse torture and abuse?

You're a monster, Bill.

:grr:
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WMliberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-05 11:52 PM
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10. first, THANK YOU for spelling sycophant correctly!
Second, his assumption that Iraq is part of the war on terror isn't just drinking the kool-aid. It is intentional every time he says it. He is one of the guys putting the Yellow 5 in for extra color. Keep hitting them on that assumption every time they make it.
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tabasco Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-05 09:39 PM
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5. What does this chickenshit chickenhawk know about ...
Edited on Mon Feb-21-05 09:40 PM by tabasco
military operations?

It endangers our troops if we do not obey the laws of war. Plus it is the right thing to do.

O'Reilly is just telling his idiot listeners what they want to hear. Shove your loofah up your coward ass O'Reilly.
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Downtown Hound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-05 10:02 PM
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6. Hey Bill, no one cares what you have to say
So why don't you take your own advice and SHUT UP!
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libodem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-05 11:02 PM
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7. exposing atrocities is the job of civil liberties
making the Geneva convention rules irrelevant undermines the military effort. Who has to play war by the rules of the game, now? Who says you have to wear uniforms? Who says coercive interrogation does not equal torture? The public deserves to know. These are the facts. The ACLU is not trying to undermine the war effort it wants to report civil rights abuses. They report and we decide. We don't need you to tell us. Give us the facts. We'll decide. Not what the administration filters through. You spin everything, you say. You propagandizing puppethead.
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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-05 11:18 PM
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8. O'Reilly would have made an excellent Nazi
He proves time and again that he is not for America, not for freedom, not for the Bill of Rights and mixes up falafels as some kind of bathing device.

When is this fuckwad taking a dirtnap anyway? I want to take a crap on his grave.
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WMliberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-05 11:49 PM
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9. right O'Reilly.. without them, we could streamline our torture techniques!
Think of how efficiently we could put jumper cables on their nipples and get them in naked dog piles!
sarcasm off/
Don't get upset. He lives in a world where it's okay to torture away. Ends justify the means. ANYTHING to defeat the terra-ists, even if it brutalizes and deliberalizes America in the meantime.
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kodi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-05 12:44 AM
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11. Bill O'Reilly supports the torture of human beings. It makes him a Nazi.
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Hippo_Tron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-05 12:57 AM
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12. Bill O'Reilly in a nutshell
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CWebster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-05 07:20 AM
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13. Yes, I heard the generals take this position when the story broke
Support the troops, after all....right?
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-05 07:29 AM
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14. No spin zone..
HAHAHAHA

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