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donsu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 02:12 PM
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"Did White House S&M ring order special videos from Abu Ghraib?"

http://www.onlinejournal.com/Special_Reports/022305Madsen/022305madsen.html


The GOP's many Talons
Did White House S&M ring order special videos from Abu Ghraib?


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The presence of cameras in prison facilities had many Washington insiders wondering if the gay S&M prostitution ring centered in the White House had access to pornographic videos from torture centers such as Abu Ghraib and Guantanamo Bay.

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One of the Defense Department contractors cited in the Abu Ghraib scandal was Titan of San Diego. It has subsequently been discovered that GOPUSA.com, the parent company of Talon News Service, had Steven Findlay on its board of directors. Findlay was the founder of a Marshall, Texas-based defense contractor called Titan Dynamics. In 2002, Allied Defense Group bought Titan Dynamics. In 2002, federal investigators stepped up their ongoing investigation of Titan of San Diego for engaging in fraud on software contracts at Hanscom Air Force Base in Massachusetts. Titan's contract partner, Dynamics Research, also came under investigation. Investigators used the term "Titan Dynamics" in describing their investigation at Hanscom.

Another firm tied to contract fraud was Affiliated Computer Systems (ACS) of Dallas, Texas, a company with close ties to Bush and the GOP. In 1992, ACS's chairman Darwin Deason settled with the government on charges relating to the transfer of $61 million of computers and other assets from two Texas savings and loans, First Texas Savings and Gibraltar, just prior to the thrifts' failure. In 2002, 64 percent of ACS's political contributions went to Republicans.

A May 2004 email to senior officials of the FBI, labeled "On Scene Commander—Baghdad," indicated that much of the abusive tactics used at Abu Ghraib had been authorized by President Bush. The email stated Bush authorized sleep deprivation, stress positions, the use of military dogs, and 'sensory deprivation through the use of hoods, etc.'"
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ewagner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 02:30 PM
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1. Is there any proof
to that last paragraph?

Can Madsen produce the email? Can it be verified?

If not, he's waaaaaaaayyyyyyy over the line....not that I don't believe dubya signed a "finding", but we can't make charges like that without lead-pipe-cinch-dead-on proof.....
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 03:55 PM
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7. I dunno, but "some people" are saying that
And that seems to be a credible enough source for Faux News to cite when they want to bash someone over the head. Why doesn't the president answer these horrible charges? What is he hiding?

Tomorrow: Bush's continued silence implies guilt.

Friday: Bush guilty, no doubt about it.
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 02:34 PM
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2. we need to get one of these sick nazi WH f**ks
to stain a blue dress.
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info being Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 03:27 PM
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5. Right, so the Dems can call on the offender to investigate himself
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realFedUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 03:18 PM
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3. well, this is certainly worth kicking...n/t
making money off the torture too?
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Griffy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 03:22 PM
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4. Watch this... and then think about sex rings in DC .. I was shocked!
I couldnt believe that this was all put together and then covered up! Just when I thought that I could see the bottom, new depths of hideousness are exposed!

http://www.thelawparty.com/FranklinCover-up.htm

its the "Featured Documentary" .. the Franklin cover-up!
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starroute Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 03:29 PM
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6. Madsen has been kind of out there lately
I really can't tell whether he's onto something or just spinning his wheels. In this case he seems to be going on the assumption that the "Talon" name forms a meaningful connection. That could be true -- certainly nobody has ever come up with an explanation of where "Talon News" got its name -- but he hasn't come close to proving it.

Meanwhile, his stuff about the Fellowship and the military contractors is interesting on its, but it doesn't yet seem to be adding up to something larger.
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nashville_brook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 06:34 PM
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8. madsen's way out in front of this -- he's got the money connections
totally nominated!
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barbaraann Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-05 05:04 AM
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9. Holy Mackerel!
n/t
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