Bush is scaring America:::in 2047 Social Sec will be bankrupt...

[opihimoimoi]

what he did not say is the other things:


In the next 40 years:

1. The worlds population will be approximately 20 plus BILLION

2. Global Warming will result in Oceans rising at least 2 feet

3. Food production cannot possible keep up with Pop Growth

4. Cheap Oil will be long gone...only remenants will be available...and only for essentials like police/fire/farmers, etc

5. Iraq will still be in turmoil.

Where is the concern for these and other items not mentioned but equally important....?

I rest my case.

[applegrove]

1. Good point!! Though the law & order types will like it that the police

have gas and the criminal does not.

[tridim]

2. Most people don't understand that oil is not just used for fuel

Just imagine a world without cheap plastic.

[JohnnyRingo]

3. And if he succeeds in making his tax cuts permanent.......

In 2040 America will only be able to pay the interest on the national debt.

But that's aparently not important.

[me b zola]

13. Apparently truth is not important to this administration

under any circumstance. They make BOLD FACED LIES on every issue imaginable, and don't blink. The scariest part of their it is the number of people who have signed on and will rally their cause, no matter how outlandish the lie.

I truly wonder what it was like to live in Germany in 1939.

[JohnnyRingo]

14. It's like half the people in this country are in a patriotic trance

With undying devotion to GWB

excerpt
Roberts wrote that his Iraq War criticism made him an object of “much hate” often expressed in “violently worded, ignorant and irrational e-mails from self-professed conservatives who literally worship George Bush.”

Roberts even compared these pro-Bush extremists to the Brownshirts, the thugs who helped Adolf Hitler bully his way to power in Germany and who “were ignorant, violent, delusional, and they worshipped a man of no known distinction.”

“Brownshirts’ delusions were protected by an emotional force field,” Roberts wrote. “Like Brownshirts, the new conservatives take personally any criticism of their leader and his policies. To be a critic is to be an enemy.”

Roberts added, “Even Christians have fallen into idolatry. There appears to be a large number of Americans who are prepared to kill anyone for George Bush.”

http://consortiumnews.com/2005/022105.html

[opihimoimoi]

17. The Brown Shirting of America comes under the Pub Banner.

History will not be kind to the Puglicans...

[judgejury]

4. whoa! my first post and I have years of experience to offer!

1) In the 1960's they predicted the world would already by at 12 billion or so by now and we are at half that. Birth rates are dropping to the point that even countries like Russia and even China are now below or near below the "replacement" rate for humans. Also, we are fast discovering that as countries mature; their birth rates slow down. New demographics say the world population may stabilize at 8 to 9 billion.

2) The problem with the idea that oceans rising if the ice caps melt is the fact that the world is like a large squishy ball. Remove weight (as in ice melting) at one point and the weight compresses somewhere else. Minnesota, as an example, is still rebounding UPWARD from glacier wieght that left the area 10,000 years ago. It is highly probable that as the ice melts, the weight, now distributed as liquid water over the oceans, will compress the ocean floor and the result will be no increase in sea levels. Remember: the areas that HAD been covered by the ice will now be rebounding UPWARD as the weight is lifted off them allowing more compression over other areas now covered with water.

3) Food production! That is what scientists said in the 1960's. Most predicted world starvation by 1980! They were wrong. Food production continues to skyrocket on less & less land plus now we have huge areas of South America growing such items as soybeans when they were unable to 30 years ago.

4) Oil is being discovered every day. As an example, only a very very small portion of Russia has been explored. In 1975 scientists said the world would be out of oil in a decade! They were wrong.

5) Most do not think Iraq will be in turmoil. Sorry to disagree

[Worst Username Ever]

5. Gone so soon?

[Been Fishing]

6. Another Freeper Post?

[opihimoimoi]

7. Most will agree we are in or Past "Peak Oil"...

Oil is being discovered but there has not been a major find for years and there has to be an end when it costs too much for the extraction process....it is a finite source.

There has not been documentation of mountains rising because of pressure on the sea floor. Me thinks you jest....

have a good day

[gratuitous]

11. How many times do you have to get banned?

Go post at LoonyLibertarian.com!

Clown.

(This post will almost surely be pulled by our faultless moderators, but I recognize the stone-brain writing "style" of "judgejury" a mile away. He's a persistent and long-running doofus around here and other message boards.)

[DuaneBidoux]

8. Yea' and ask the parent of a dead soldier and they'll tell you

the worst thing about those next 42 years is that their child won't be around for any of them.

[mbee]

9. What the heck, since he has spent all the money we are bankrupt

NOW!

[opihimoimoi]

10. Look all around us and see the Misery Index go thru the roof as

time goes on.

Bush has not been a good steward of America. He is using us for a narrow agenda....those 3 percenters...leaving us 97% guys twisting in the wind....

[kentuck]

12. And most baby boomers will be dead....

The first baby boomers born in 1946 will be 101 years old. How many boomers will be living at that time? Very small percentage would be my guess but they are making great strides in helping people to live longer....

[radfringe]

15. they hates our social security

more booga-booga fear mongering -- it's the bushies bestest tool

[opihimoimoi]

16. The Dems have more Fun and the Pubs are jealous.... they hate us

for our freedoms. They are stuck in church with all that dogma while we go hang glide and sky dive. They got their picnics while we got rock shows. They got theit SORTS ILLUSTRATED while we got Playboy and other porn. They masterbate while we masticate....

They have only one thing left...to cope with it all,..... Delusion.

Come, we go find shave ice with azuki beans/ice cream

[CWebster]

18. Yet there are those on these boards

who actually advocate that Democrats not make waves or rock the boat, because, you see, those mean bullies will swat anyone who does, and hey, the wise Democrat doesn't represent a challenge and agrees with Bush to improve their "electibility".

What a perfect strategy to keep on losing. You have to wonder about those who advocate it.

[opihimoimoi]

19. Those who advocate losing stratagies are most likely deluded or moles/

trolls. They have no idea what they are doing is counter productive even toward their own interests...

much less the ultimate goal...the Happy Planet...

They don't see it, don't want to, and are so caught up in their task to disrupt/decieve/distort they actually enjoy it. Sad.

[CWebster]

20. So, you might be catching the scent

of a rat too?

[opihimoimoi]

21. The rats were here for a long time, They are everywhere, many posing as

good guys, but are indeed moles and trolls. Some may have been in Gores Camp and Kerrys also....

and most certainly here on DU and other boards. The Rats leave their droppings everywhere...on DU, its about 6 feet deep.

[googly]

22. Your predictions are already proving wrong...

World population is growing less than predicted just a few
years ago. Europe is actually decreasing! And China and India,
comprising nearly half of the world population are both
trending down.

The amazing thing to see is in countries like India, there is
MORE food production/capita today than just 50 years ago
when population was 1/3rd of today.

As soon as the oil is gone, alternate sources of energy will
be developed in a hurry. Right now, no one wants to invest
money in alternate sources because there is too much oil is
left in the ground in S. Arabia, Iraq, Kuwait, Russia, and other
countries. No one can compete with oil which simply has to be
pumped out of the ground.

If Iraq follows what is happening in Afghanistan, it is hard
to say it will not settle down. Only time will tell. No one
predicted a 60% turnout when bombs were going off everywhere.

As for the global warming, my guess is nuclear power will
come out the winner since it has no CO2 emissions. ALready
Europe, China, Japan, and many others are expanding the
percentage of electricity generated by nuclear power.

[liveoaktx]

23. Bush's Definition of Bankrupt is Baloney- See Fair article

http://www.corpwatch.org/article.php?id=11880

Notice that bankrupt does not mean, like most people assume, flat broke or bust.

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Ullmann claims that the word "bankrupt" can mean "a situation in which obligations exceed revenue, a problem the Social Security system faces in about 15 years." It's a very peculiar definition of "bankrupt" that would apply to a program with more than $4 trillion in assets, as the Social Security system is projected to have in 15 years. The Gannett Company, which publishes USA Today, would love to be so "bankrupt."

Ullmann goes on to say that "various projections show the Social Security Trust will be exhausted, or broke, by 2042 or later." This is a rhetorical sleight of hand, switching from the Social Security system (as the article in question discussed) to the Social Security trust fund, which by two of the three projections made by the Social Security trustees will in fact eventually run out of money. But the Social Security system, unless the laws are changed, will continue to receive payroll taxes equal to roughly 12 percent of U.S. wages, a huge amount of money now and an even larger sum in 2042. So it is hard to argue that the system will be "bankrupt," let alone "broke," "exhausted" or "flat bust."

Ullman points to another article where the paper explained the difference between what Bush says and the reality of Social Security's financial predicament. Surely the editors at USA Today don't assume that their readers read every article in every edition of the paper, and retain all the information from those articles in their memories. Newspaper articles need to be accurate and understandable standing on their own. But the article Ullman pointed to seems to be the exception rather than the rule at USA Today: on February 10, the day the paper sent Ullmann's message, it reported that Bush "says will be unable to pay full benefits by 2042." By inaccurately paraphrasing George W. Bush's claims about Social Security, USA Today is failing in this obligation.