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Up2Late Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 03:36 PM
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Q? Who is TBRnews? and should we trust Voice of the Whitehouse?
This post from yesterday, links to TBRnews and an article
by "Voice of the Whitehouse"
<http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=3158059&mesg_id=3158059&page=>

But when you poke around TBRNews, which has a "Private" listing and is apparently listed in Arizona, there is very little info available about who runs this website.

Only two of the three links, on the site, work, which link to Books on German Uniforms for WW2.

What's up with this site? Anyone know? :shrug:
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Oreo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 03:38 PM
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1. WHOIS Info
Domain ID:D90896652-LROR
Domain Name:TBRNEWS.ORG
Created On:04-Oct-2002 02:42:35 UTC
Last Updated On:05-Feb-2005 01:31:00 UTC
Expiration Date:04-Oct-2006 02:42:35 UTC
Sponsoring Registrar:Go Daddy Software, Inc. (R91-LROR)
Status:CLIENT DELETE PROHIBITED
Status:CLIENT RENEW PROHIBITED
Status:CLIENT TRANSFER PROHIBITED
Status:CLIENT UPDATE PROHIBITED
Registrant ID:GODA-01612766
Registrant Name:Registration Private
Registrant Organization:Domains by Proxy, Inc.
Registrant Street1:15111 N Hayden Rd., Suite 160
Registrant Street2:PMB353
Registrant Street3:
Registrant City:Scottsdale
Registrant State/Province:Arizona
Registrant Postal Code:85260
Registrant Country:US
Registrant Phone:+1.4806242599
Registrant Phone Ext.:
Registrant FAX:
Registrant FAX Ext.:
Registrant Email:TBRNEWS.ORG@domainsbyproxy.com
Admin ID:GODA-21612766
Admin Name:Registration Private
Admin Organization:Domains by Proxy, Inc.
Admin Street1:15111 N Hayden Rd., Suite 160
Admin Street2:PMB353
Admin Street3:
Admin City:Scottsdale
Admin State/Province:Arizona
Admin Postal Code:85260
Admin Country:US
Admin Phone:+1.4806242599
Admin Phone Ext.:
Admin FAX:
Admin FAX Ext.:
Admin Email:TBRNEWS.ORG@domainsbyproxy.com
Tech ID:GODA-11612766
Tech Name:Registration Private
Tech Organization:Domains by Proxy, Inc.
Tech Street1:15111 N Hayden Rd., Suite 160
Tech Street2:PMB353
Tech Street3:
Tech City:Scottsdale
Tech State/Province:Arizona
Tech Postal Code:85260
Tech Country:US
Tech Phone:+1.4806242599
Tech Phone Ext.:
Tech FAX:
Tech FAX Ext.:
Tech Email:TBRNEWS.ORG@domainsbyproxy.com
Name Server:WSC1.JOMAX.NET
Name Server:WSC2.JOMAX.NET
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kk897 Donating Member (829 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-05 04:05 PM
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13. a quick googling turns up this:
http://spywarewarrior.com/viewtopic.php?t=1154
see this discussion of spyware for a mention of the same street address:

PARETOLOGIC
Domains by Proxy, Inc.
15111 N Hayden Rd., Suite 160
PMB353
Scottsdale, Arizona 85260
United States
Registered through: GoDaddy.com
Domain Name: PARETOLOGIC.COM
Created on: 17-Dec-03
Expires on: 17-Dec-04
Last Updated on: 22-Feb-04
Administrative Contact:
Private, Registration PARETOLOGIC.COM@domainsbyproxy.com
Domains by Proxy, Inc.
15111 N Hayden Rd., Suite 160
PMB353
Scottsdale, Arizona 85260
United States
(480) 624-2599 Fax --
Technical Contact:
Private, Registration PARETOLOGIC.COM@domainsbyproxy.com
Domains by Proxy, Inc.
15111 N Hayden Rd., Suite 160
PMB353
Scottsdale, Arizona 85260
United States
(480) 624-2599 Fax --
Domain servers in listed order:
NS.RACKSPACE.COM
NS2.RACKSPACE.COM

Sites found:


ParetoLogic.com:69.20.65.22

deletespyware.net:207.44.218.12
spybot-spyware.com:207.44.204.85
removespyware.net:207.44.204.85
trojan-scan.com:207.44.204.85
1spybot.com:207.44.204.85
softwho.com:207.44.204.85

spy-bot.net:209.170.32.21
spyware-detection.net:209.170.32.21
adwares.net:209.170.32.21

downloadspybot.com:209.170.32.71
no-spybot.com:209.170.32.71
spybot-download.com:209.170.32.71
spybotsearch.com:209.170.32.71

eshopnetworks.com:209.170.32.71


Also Altavista.com search for spybots&d returns the following:

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kk897 Donating Member (829 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-05 04:13 PM
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14. this is very interesting...
http://www.infovlad.net/index.php?p=123

on the same name server, according to the poster on this forum about mawsuat.com

mawsuat.com

Filed under:

Terrorist Sites

Internet Activities
— Vladimir @ 4:41 pm



Tons of bloody Jihadist footages with somewhat insinuating disclaimer.
http://www.mawsuat.com/

mawsuat.com


IP:64.202.165.28
OS:Windows Server 2003
Server:Microsoft-IIS/6.0


Registrant:
karim berrada
28, sidiberezzouk st
rabat 10000
United States


Registered through: GoDaddy.com
Domain Name: MAWSUAT.COM
Created on: 03-Jan-05
Expires on: 03-Jan-06
Last Updated on: 04-Jan-05


Administrative Contact:
berrada, karim mawsuat@hotmail.com
28, sidiberezzouk st
rabat 10000
United States
423663002096
Technical Contact:
berrada, karim mawsuat@hotmail.com
28, sidiberezzouk st
rabat 10000
United States
423663002096


Domain servers in listed order:
WSC1.JOMAX.NET
WSC2.JOMAX.NET
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kk897 Donating Member (829 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-05 04:18 PM
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15. Holy Mary Mother of God! And I'm an agnostic!
That site has been linked with Zakarwi! OK, I'm a computer dunce. What does it mean if these sites are on the same domain servers? Could it be that, like, thousands of sites are on those domain servers? Is this nothing? I find it incredibly weird, although what do I know?
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kk897 Donating Member (829 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-05 04:25 PM
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16. Go Daddy Software, again
I guess this just means both are hosted on Go Daddy servers? Can anyone explain if this is just pure coincidence or if there's somethin gto it?
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Up2Late Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-05 05:45 PM
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17. How did you get to "info Vlad?"
anyway, I think I figured it out. This is definitely a web site run by "The Barnes Review."
Very bad people (Holocaust deniers)

See my post near the bottom of the thread for more.:smoke:
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kk897 Donating Member (829 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-05 06:38 PM
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18. I googled the domain name servers of TNR
which turn out to belong to Go Daddy. infoVlad appears to discuss clandestine internet activities, and they (he?) discussed that jihadist site, which has the same DNS.
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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 03:38 PM
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2. On the question of trusting the WH. No, no and absolutely not!
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Up2Late Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 03:56 PM
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7. No, not THE WH, I'm talking about the clips written under the title...
"Voice of the White House."

It's supposedly, someone with an "IN" among the White House Press Corp, who claims to "leak" insider info in these columns
"Voice of the White House." :shrug:
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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 04:30 PM
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9. Oh, sorry, their site is called "Voice of the White House"...I missed
...that in the topic title.
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reichstag911 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 03:40 PM
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3. Not sure about TBR,...
...but I read the piece there by Wayne Madsen, whom I've seen elsewhere -- I think at Counterpunch -- and I trust his stuff.
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 03:42 PM
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4. I don't know....but could use some clarification also...
a while back I read several articles from there that were lucid and logical so I assumed the site was the same. Several people on DU commented pretty quick that it was a Nazi site, but without explanation. Hope you get some answers!
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emcguffie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 03:43 PM
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5. You have to subscribe for the whole thing.
I am, as you are most likely, quite perplexed by this Voice of the White House.

I went so far as to send an e-mail, inquiring about whether or not it was a propaganda thing, and got a very nice reply. I should go find it. He explained who he is -- the person who does the website, that is -- but not who that voice is. According to him, I think he said the website is a one-man production.

My suspicions were aroused because the Voice kept giving away things about himself that he would not want known, if he were really in the White House press corps. Maybe it was disinformation, I don't know.

The proof is in the pudding. Have his past predictions been proven or disproven? I think so far he is right. But I haven't looked at it in a while.

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Me. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 03:53 PM
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6. I Have Always Wondered About TBR Too
The info is almost too "good" to be true and I wondered if it was disinformation. A trap for anyone who wanted to publish the info. Also, given the specificity of the reports I can't understand why they (WH circus) haven't figured out who he/she is.
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OneBlueSky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 04:07 PM
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8. check out this post . . .
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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 04:35 PM
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10. Hahaha, this is hillarious....
<snip> from TBRnews link above:

TBR News – February 21, 2005

And all the sons of Congressmen!

"As democracy is perfected, the office of president represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron."
- H.L. Mencken

COWS

Is it just me, or does anyone else find it amazing that the United States government can track a cow born nearly three years ago in Canada, right to the stall where she sleeps in the state of Washington. And then track her calves right to their current stalls. But they are unable to locate 11 Million illegal aliens wandering around our country. Maybe we should give each one a cow.

THE TEN COMMANDMENTS

The real reason that we can't have the Ten Commandments in a Courthouse? You cannot post "Thou Shalt Not Steal," "Thou Shalt Not Commit Adultery" and "Thou Shall Not Lie" in a building full of lawyers, judges and politicians! It creates a hostile work environment

Surely something this "in the face of the established order of things" has to be able to convey some good and shine a light on the truth!

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geek tragedy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-05 03:14 AM
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11. TBR news is run by NAZIS and HOLOCAUST DENIERS. No decent person should
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Up2Late Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-05 10:52 AM
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12. I think you're ABSOLUTELY right
Edited on Thu Feb-24-05 10:53 AM by Up2Late
This is definitely a web site run by "The Barnes Review."

I've been looking into TBRnews, and their is no doubt in my mind about this. For anyone not, read this, this is the links page on The Barnes Review Website:

LINKS

The American Free Press - America’s best populist weekly newspaper.

The American Journal - Great list of links

TBRnews.org - Additional Revisionist Articles

Here are the Links at TBRnews:

Links
www.WWIIbooks.com
www.bender-publishing.com
http://www.anthonylong.org

The last one (www.anthonylong.org) no longer works. I think this might have been link to someone that was trying to "out" this site.
:evilfrown:
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-25-05 01:36 AM
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19. Try Googling "Voice of the White House."
Last time I did I found there's a website with all of his/her columns that are posted in TBR..But it's a separate website. For you computer geeks who check out the "domains" that might be an interesting search.

I enjoy reading "Voice," but look on it as funny having been warned about TBR. Now, I wonder if I should even go over there ...given what's been posted about who hosts them. :scared:
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