Since Iowa, Dean has raised more than $1MIL from net

[mouse7]

When DFA Finance Committee Chairman Terry Learman joined the call he said in his 56 years he had "never seen a better campaign office--life charged situation" than the one he is seeing from Manchester headquarters from where he called.

"But it takes a lot of fuel to run the engine," said Learman. "besides money--we need people to swarm to New Hampshire right now."

"In the question and answer session, Learman responded that, since Iowa, "the internet alone has raised over $1 million. Fundraising has not dropped at all, and that number doesn't include the checks being mailed in."

http://dean2004.blogspot.com/


Well, I've gotten evertything else wrong so far in this campaign season... no sense breakin' a streak.

I thought Dean had an untouchable lead in December. Wrong.

I thought Dean had a decent enough lead the week before Iowa. Wrong.

I thought the Dean and Gephardt organizations on the ground would carry the caucuses. Wrong. I've never seen the efforts of SO MANY volunteers become so completely useless. Iowa was swung totally and completely by "positive message" ad buys on the last week of the campaign Kerry and Edwards. When did the whole state of Iowa become such an easily manipulated state of couch potatoes, anyway? I'm now convinced the "Can you hear me now? guy" could have won Iowa with a month straight of "positive" ad buys.

The scream? Dean voice cracked and it felt like a many lifetimes of toe and fingernails clippings being simultaneous dragged down a slate cliff face and looked as endearing a few more plastic surgery procedures would look for Micheal Jackson.



Apparently, I'm wrong about the scream, too. Dean just raised another freakin' million in about 3 1/2 days. Iowa just proved almost nothing matters now but ad buys. Dean's Perfect Storm as useful as boobies on a bull. But that doesn't matter, because apparently Dean still has more money than anyone else, and money is all that matters. So Dean's Perfect Storm can have fun with a Perfect Storm Mosh Pit or something while even I could climb back into the nomination hunt with utterly crushing amounts of ad buys. Easy to do that with more money than God.

As for me... since I've got a huge streak going here... I'm officially picking Joe Lieberman to win in NH by landslide proportions. Joe will own NH. If I say it, it's gotta be true, huh?

[killbotfactory]

1. I'm with you...

Lieberman or bust!

[bearfartinthewoods]

2. if money is all that matters, bush wins.....period

[ouija_board]

3. I think the point being made though...

... is that despite Dean's showing in Iowa, there is still support from hundreds and even thousands of people pouring in. And the difference between Dean money and Bush money of course, is that a million for Dean requires the contribution of a significant number of ordinary people, while Bush just gets a cheque in his back pocket from a CEO. People power at work.

[NewYorkerfromMass]

4. People power at work?

more like people looking for power and hoping against hope.

[mouse7]

5. No... you are disregarding the facts of Iowa

Everything turned when Kerry and Edwards started running "positive message" ads and Gephardt unleashed his whole bank account entirely on Dean with massive amounts of negative ads and mailers against Dean. Gephardt basically "suicide bombed" Dean, and ended his campaign in the process.

All of Dean and Gephardt volunteers were worthless, not just Dean's. So the same people that won Iowa for Gephardt in 1988 were basically useless. That means the ads were the only factor of significance.

With Dean having far more money than anyone else, that means as long as there is change in the tone of the message of the ads, Dean still has the best position and most pieces on the chess board. What Dean does with that, I don't know. I'm not saying Dean is going to win. I'm just saying with Dean's fundraising ability intact, Dean is still in the best position to try to win from.

[AP]

11. Did you watch caucuses on CSPAN? Dean was wooing voters by promising

them that they could still vote for Kucinich if they caucused with Dean (and that was so that they could meet the 15% threshold).

Edwards supporters were wooing voters with arguments about economic policies, with references to personal experiences of poverty. And that was so that they could reach their 3rd delegate.

Which one of these campaigns is about ideas?

[bearfartinthewoods]

27. i saw that

a woman was promising a DK guy that they'd make him a delegate and he could vote for DK at the next level in the process. i never did see what happened with that. compare that to the Edwards guy who sent their ONE extra guy to DK as soon as the DK team asked.

[bearfartinthewoods]

26. you just said what i said

if bush spends his quarter of a BILLION projected dollars on positive, morning in America ads, he wins. it doesn't matter if howard has 100 million more than the others, if your premise is correct, bush wins on the strength of his ad buying power.

[ouija_board]

7. Heh.

Well, whichever way you want to spin it, yeah. I don't have a vested interest in the subject; I was just pointing out that at any rate, you can't make a straight comparison between Bush and Dean money.

[mouse7]

12. True, they are very different.

I'm only taking about the primaries. Everything changes in the general.

Now is a good time to point out that Dems will not want to "suicide bomb" Dean any further. I don't know how the hell Dean raises money like this, but he does, and that talent will be needed in NOV no mattter who wins the nomination.

[AP]

6. More like $590K according to front page on Dean for America.

Democratic presidential candidate Howard Dean has raised $590,000 since his damaging Iowa loss, his campaign reported

Edwards raised 465K

Kerry's at about 350K

Also the Alexa rankings have them all with 200 places (1100-1300).

So things are getting tight with these three.

[mouse7]

14. No... more than $1 million... like I said, from Sen. Leahy conf. call

DFA Conference Call From Tonight: Please Come To New Hampshire Now.

A conference call was held tonight to rally supporters to get to New Hampshire and answer questions about the direction the campaign is going in.

US Senator Patrick Leahy, DFA National Finance Chairman Terry Learman and Vermont Chair Dashiell Flynn hosted the call.

Eager supporters immediately clamored about what they think needs to change after the results in Iowa and asked what they could do to help in New Hampshire.

"Dean should put on a jacket again and look more presidential," said one concerned caller.

"Dean has to start taking credit for setting the stage and driving the debate for all these other bozos," said another. "We have to talk about why Bush and Rove are afraid of Dean!"

Many others wanted to advise Dean handlers to immediately get the Governor out on the Comedy circuit to take advantage of the buzz about his Iowa exit speech.

When DFA Finance Committee Chairman Terry Learman joined the call he said in his 56 years he had "never seen a better campaign office--life charged situation" than the one he is seeing from Manchester headquarters from where he called.

"But it takes a lot of fuel to run the engine," said Learman. "besides money--we need people to swarm to New Hampshire right now."

In the question and answer session, Learman responded that, since Iowa, "the internet alone has raised over $1 million. Fundraising has not dropped at all, and that number doesn't include the checks being mailed in."

Learman said that in one day this week $280,000 was raised.

"What's even more impressive is that we have more donors out there than ALL of the campaigns combined with an average of about $75 per donation," said Learman. "Howard Dean IS campaign finance reform."

When asked what specifically needed to change after Iowa, Learman said that "we may have gotten off message. Dean got caught up in a perfect political storm with a withering display of attacks--the likes that I've never seen before. We're coming out with new ads (in NH) and will emphasize our positive message."

Senator Leahy had called in from Washington, D.C. and asked callers to join him on a bus leaving from Burlington for New Hampshire, or simply to follow him and others to get out to New Hampshire and fight for Howard the same way he's been fighting for all Americans.

"We have 6 days before the New Hampshire primary," said Leahy. "Vermonters know Howard best and the people in New Hampshire need to hear from their neighbors and others across the country about what a great guy he is."

Crossposted at DeanTV.org


posted by Heath Eiden Wednesday, January 21, 2004 | Comment s (11) | Forum | Wiki

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Are you calling Sen. Patrick Leahy a liar??

[AP]

16. Nope. They haven't raised a million since Monday or they'd be bragging

about a one day total of 720K rather than 280K. It had only been 48 hours between end of caucuses and this phone call.

Obviously, the 1 mil goes back before Monday night. My guess is it goes back to Friday. But you can't tell from the quote. I'd go with the 590K the front page clams for the post-caucus total.

[mouse7]

18. So you know better than Sen. Patrick Leahy, then?

Sen. Leahy and the DFA Finance Chair are saying more than a million over the net since Iowa.

Are they lying, AP?

[AP]

19. Yep. I can do math.

Learmsn said "one day this week we raised 280k". The other quote isn't the full quote.

The report says "since Iowa 'we've raised a million.'" Well, I presume the point they're making is that since the results came out, they're still raising at their clip of 1 mil per week (or better). Well, as of Wed night, when this interview took place, there were only three days in this week, and only 48 hours since the results came out. So, if Leay is bragging about rasing 1 mil this week since the results came out, and if he's bragging they raised 280k one day this week, then he really should be bragging about the 720 mil they raised on the other day this week.

So clearly either on Tuesday or (less likely) on Wed, the last time he checked, they raside 280k. I'm going to guess that was the higher one-day tally for the week of the two days they're talking about. So it makes more sense that they raised 590k since Monday night (as the front page claims).

The time period for the million is vague. "Since Iowa"? Since Iowa what? Became a state? Ended? Started? He probably means since Friday or Satruday. But who knows?

The article is clearly intended to get donors to keep giving, so they're using a little puffery and exaggeration. That's fine. They all do it. But we shouldn't pretend that logic has left us.

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[AP]

22. Nobody lied. "Since Iowa" - means what? If they made 280K one day ...

...this week, and they're bragging about it, then the DEFINITELY haven't raised a million since monday night.

Right?

You don't deny that.

I don't doubt they've maed a million since Iowa became a state, or since the regitered, or sicne, say, Saturday.

But what they should worry about what they've raised since Monday night.

Edwards raised in the high 460 or 480. Kerry raised mid-high 300s.

What has Dean done? Where's the bat?

[mouse7]

23. Link please

Since we're all so "trusting" here.

[AP]

24. To what? Dean for America where the 590k number appears?

www.deanforamerica.com -- right-hand colum.

Or to leahy/learner's comment? Isn't that linked above? This is also discussed in LBN.

[genius]

8. Hey, maybe Dean's supporters would give the rest of us money

if we started ranting and raving.

[artr2]

9. I sent in another $25 tonight

and I will send in another $25 every other week until I reach the limit or Dean wins the nomination. Then it goes up to $50 every other week. This is a strain on my finances, but having bush for another 4 years makes me sick

GO DEAN!!

[bearfartinthewoods]

28. naughty naughty..dean says contributions should be capped at 250

he wants to remove the influence of "big money" people </sarcasm>

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[mouse7]

13. The key to look at is useless efforts of Gephardt organization

Gephardt had the Industrial Unions behind him. I've had to work against them before when I was working for Hart against Mondale. Those guys are great if they are on your side, and a pain in the ass when they are against you. They should have accomplished something and they just flat out failed.

This is really just more evidence of ehat we already knew. There is no sense of community left anywhere in America anymore. people don't know their neighbors anywhere anymore. People distrust those knowking on their doors. The only thing that people react to anymore is that damned idiot box.

[Adjoran]

15. As I've been saying

it is just the beginning of the campaign.

What the Dean slippage in Iowa, and maybe NH means is that the campaign will go on in earnest a while longer. If he could have carried his early momentum through to win those two states, it might have been over for practical purposes. Nobody else would have been able to raise enough money to stay competitive.

With proportionate representation (no more winner-take-all primaries), and a shaken-up race, it now becomes possible that we will get to the convention without a clear winner.

[mouse7]

17. Maybe Hillary never needed to enter the race after all to win.

I have to be honest... I'm seeing many scenarios for the nominating process to go beyond one vote.

While Kerry, Clark, and Edwards battle over who's the best member of the DLC, Dean keeps scooping up delegates along the outside rail.

With Clark and Edwards in the race, Kerry cannot get sizable delegates down South and in the Mountain West. Dean will win the West Coast. Dean also has the only political endorsement that may really mean anything... Ann Richards in Texas.

[hellhathnofury]

21. We're pretty strpng in Texas from what I've seen.

Massive grassroots out of Austin-Dallas and of course the lovely Mrs. Richards, Sheila Jackson Lee too.

[JI7]

25. what's wrong with the dlc ?

?