The Silent Ones of Gannongate.

[fresnobill314]

There is an absence of comment from certain usually noisy groups in regard to Jeff Gannon/James Guckert.

1.) THE CHRISTIAN RIGHT: Not one peep from anyone in this camp, not even James Dobson, who recently outed SpongeBob. Or, Pat Robertson, who questioned Tinky Winky's sexuality. Or even Jerry Falwell. These guys are usually the first to blame everything on gays(even 9/11). Yet, there is not one anti-gay comment regarding Gannon's prostitution. I even heard Pat Buchanan defending this guy.

2.) THE MILITARY: There hasn't been one comment from anyone in the Pentagon, even rank and file servicemen, complaining that Gannon was selling his services as a military stud.

3.) THE WASHINGTON TIMES: Moon's rag was the first and only paper to report on the first boy prostitute scandal that occurred during Bush the First's term, though it was quickly hushed. There's no word this time around.

4.) ALAN KEYES: This creep usually has something negative to say about the gay community. Just ask his daughter.

5.) THE CLINTONS: If anybody has a right to demand an explanation for the cover-up, it's these two. If a blowjob in the Oval Office can bring a country to a screeching halt, a male prostitute posing as a reporter in the White House Press Room just feet from the President should turn this country upside down. But again, not one peep.

I believe that Gannongate has quite a few groups by the cojones. Who is going to cry uncle first?

P.S. TBRnews.org has articles posted by "The Voice of the White House." This guy is either batshit crazy or telling the complete unvarnished truth. In either case, it's good for a laugh. Check it out.

[Tandalayo_Scheisskopf]

1. You forgot one notable group:

His customers. ;-)

[hector459]

36. And FOX news.

Anybody hear anything from them?

[Daphne08]

54. Bwahahahahaha!!!

[Sanity Claws]

2. Clinton would be more indirect

Clinton still has enough connections that he can get others to publicize this story. Remember the dems are taking action on this.

As for the others, you'd think they would say something. But then again, we have lapdog media. Maybe nobody has asked the Christian Right or the military about Gannon

[Meeker Morgan]

20. Remember the dems are taking action on this....

Like what? I mean something of substance.

I am very much a pessimist. I believe this story will die.

[Catamount]

37. We must not let it die!

Bombard your Representatives until they take action.
I have written to both my senators, do the same,please!

[atommom]

33. The Christian Right usually volunteers its opinion eagerly, without

having been asked. I find the silence on this issue very telling.

[Al-CIAda]

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[SideshowScott]

3. The Press: If we dont report it, it did not happen..

The silnece from FOX, Drudge et all speaks volumes. Nothing but an arm of the White house..And frankly that makes me uncomfortable no matter what party is on control They act like the story is not there when its a big 3000 lb gorilla just about everywhere else..

[caligirl]

4. Do we know who the Washington socialite is connected too? Clinton

Daschle who knows? A lot of people would be willing to cough up ten grand to get that info.

[starroute]

5. Some interested parties there

Alan Keyes has been pals with Bruce Eberle going back to YAF in the 60's.

And there are various Moon connections as well. Bobby Eberle has written for Moon's Insight Magazine. And GOPUSA board member Kerri Houston belongs to Frontiers of Freedom, an anti-environmental group with at least three people associated with it who have links to Moon-sponsored groups.

The Christian Right is a little more surprising, though. I guess it just goes to show how totally the Bush administration now owns them.

[Nothing Without Hope]

6. You raise some interesting points

Especially the Christian Right. For a while I could see them basically refusing to believe the story was true, but in the face of those internet sites and the rest of it, that's no longer in doubt.

These are the biggest gay-haters of all. And they're not that fond of prostitutes of either gender either, unless they hire them secretly themselves.

So why the silence? It cannot be a reason with a shred of integrity at this point.

And WELCOME TO DU, Fresnobill314!!! May you find it as exciting, supportive, entertaining and educational as I have -- and that's TALL ORDER.
:hi:

[MeDeMax]

7. the religious right use bi-focals...

aha, except these special glasses show objects in red or blue.

When something in blue has fallen from "grace" it is morally reprehensible and against the teachings in holy texts.

When the same happens to something in red they just shrug it off and continue support since it is the right thing to do.

A suggestion if I may, to the bi-foculers, open your eyes wider and you may see two more colors - Light & Darkness - in what people do.

[fresnobill314]

8. "Vengence is mine"

...sayeth the Lord.


This may be the reason why the Christian Right hasn't responded.

"He that lives by the sword, dies by the sword."

Perhaps maybe the same mechanism that gave Bush his second term, fear of a gay agenda, could be seen as the same mechanism that brings it to an end. Kind of like "I am not a crook."

[Nothing Without Hope]

10. Vengeance may be "the Lord's," but the gays of this country are sure

overdue for some too. They have been demonized, marginalized, and made into focusses of hatred and fear. It is both a tragedy and an irony that while their sexual orientation has nothing to do with anything significant to the rest of the country, the hatred and the fear stirrred up against them have spread in a miasma that has contributed to the division and massive deception of this country.

Gay-hating, of course, has been in part a useful tool to divide and weaken resistance to other administration policies (amazing how many Bush voters were excited by that one thing and opposed so many others) and to provide fodder for the ravening RW fundie nuts. But I have wondered if there is also a sort of deliberate fringe benefit to the gay-hating promoted by this administration.

There was a major homosexual prostitution ring associated with the Reagan/Bush the First White House in 1989 -- and that administration derailed the investigation, which had leads into prominent offices in all branches of the government.

I suspect that blackmail of closetted gays in influential positions has been in use for some time to coerce support. The promotion of gay-hating actually would enhance the effectiveness of such an operation, since it would raise the stakes for coming out. How could Republican religious, military, judicial, congressional leaders acknowledge their sexual orientation if it is sure to result in the destruction of their career and, if they participated in the gay-bashing, will reveal their hypocrisy? And possibly even worse, what if they have internalized the hateful propaganda and believe they are damned for their desires?

Some of the silence may be due to fear of the investigation spreading.

I started a thread on this idea of enhancing blivet** administration power through blackmail of closeted gays here:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x1609452

[fresnobill314]

16. Just so you know....

...if I haven't mentioned this already, I am gay. It drives me crazy Bush used us as a fear tactic to get re-elected. And, it pisses me off greatly that those closet queens in the White House have collaborated in the anti-gay rhetoric that is pumped out of that place.

So, I'm a gay, white, Christian, 51 year old hiv positive democrat living in a mostly republican city called Fresno. I'm out numbered and out gunned on several fronts. Gay bashing is not a "family value," but here we are anyway. This is why I'm pitching a major bitch about Gannongate. Guckert is the worst kind of "Roy Cohn" homo, and so are his buddies in the White House. They must be stopped.

[Nothing Without Hope]

19. Yes, I knew

that you are gay. My heart goes out to you, not (of course) for anything about you but for the hell that has been artificially built around you and that you have had to live surrounded by.

There are many closeted gays in the upper reaches of this administration as well as in influential positions in churches, journalism, and everywhere else. I believe they are being coerced to act against their own interests, against the interests of all of us, by blackmail, both explicit ( I do think this administration likely uses it as a policy) and implicit (they move in circles that would immediately demonize them and destroy their career and probably much else if they came out). Yes, they have chosen this hypocritical path, but how can they leave it? They may even believe the pseudo-religious BS and think they're damned. I don't know what is the best thing to do about them. Out them? I don't know.

But the situation with the general public is much clearer. We as progressive Democrats MUST come up with new, clear, positive ways to frame and communicate the truth about homosexuality. Fear of it has been turned into some horrible bogeyman and used to frighten the ignorant public into supporting the corrupt policies of this administration. As a side effect, the millions of non-heterosexual Americans, young and old, are being persecuted. It is barbaric and incredibly cruel.

The gay demonization issue is something that the heterosexual progressives CANNOT just let slide. It affects every single one of us hugely. Not just because no feeling human being can be true to themselves while allowing someone else to be beaten down this way, but because as long as this artificial divide is allowed to exist, the nation cannot heal. The lies and artificially fanned hatred will divide us until they are defeated and banished with the truth.

I am furious and sick and horrified at what has been and is being done to gay people and the idea of being gay or bi or trans in this country. The ignorance and fear are crippling us all.

FYI, I'm a hetero mid-fiftyish white female in Massachusetts, born in Texas and lived for a while in CA. I have never understood the negative reactions that people have about gay people, especially about gay men. But I can sure see the damage that this ignorance-spawned fear and hatred has caused, is causing, and will continue to cause until people learn the truth.

Geez, this post got to be awfully long and windy. I guess it's that time of the night, the sermonizing time, plus it's an issue that really gets to me. Kinda silly here, I'm preaching to the choir.

Good wishes and good dreams. Past time to turn off the computer for the day. Again, welcome to DU and I hope you find it everything you hope for.

ed:sp

[troubleinwinter]

42. Why

"I have never understood the negative reactions that people have about gay people, especially about gay men"

Why especially men? You mean that negative reactions to lesbians would be more understandable??? Why?

[Zhade]

45. I think it's obvious the poster was NOT saying that.

I believe the point was that gay men are more hated by society than lesbians.

[Nothing Without Hope]

48. Yes, I believe that to be true, as I spell out in my wordy reply. n/t

[Nothing Without Hope]

47. In my experience, I've seen more overt fear and hatred toward gay men

than lesbians. I think your question of WHY is an extremely important one that needs to be answered if we are to counter the neocon and fundie hate campaigns effectively. So I'm going to try to answer your question as well as I can, despite being no expert and this topic being somewhat OT for this thread.

As I said, I am not a professional in psychology or sociology and am not gay myself, so I can only express an opinion drawn from my own lifetime of observation of other people's behavior. (I am a biological scientist, so I can't help observing patterns.) Especially telling is the content of jokes; stereotypes in movies, books and popular literature; shifts in people's body language and facial expressions as they encounter gays in various situations; and such odd bits as typical plots and recurring roles in pornography, especially pornographic movies, intended for men.

Having watched all this for a long while, I have seen some repeating patterns and have drawn some tentative conclusions. Everything is in shades of gray, with all sorts of exceptions and variations, of course, but I'll state what I have seen baldly --more clearly delineated than it really is --so as to make it easier to discuss.

First, I think most men don't take lesbianism very seriously. In general, they are in a society where women are still for the most part an underclass, and that doubtless contributes to the relatively low level of fear compared to what they feel about male homosexuality. But more than that, I don't think a lot of men truly BELIEVE in lesbianism as an inborn sexual orientation. The hidden assumption seems to be that women calling themselves lesbians weren't able to attract the right man, so they're making do with second best, or that they are just psycho man-haters. If a woman that they find attractive is a lesbian, they are likely to believe she doesn't know her own mind. Witness, for example, the frequency of woman/woman erotic scenes in porno films for hetero men. Men don't find scenes like that frightening; they tend to figure these women are just waiting for a REAL man. As for the "psycho man-hating" lesbian stereotype - consider the typical image, cartoon characters and actors dressed in over the top fantasy dominance gear, with a spiked collar, a muscular stocky body, and an ugly face. The hidden message of this stereotype: this kind of woman is crazy, not a real woman, and is not desirable anyway.

Now what many men DO fear in women is genuine competence -- I've had to deal with that in my own professional career. A woman who is too good at her job and does not go through the usual rituals indicating that she knows her rightful place is at a lower level is a threat. I think a lesbian woman who combines competence and self-reliance with a lack of desire for men would be seen as a bigger threat. But the feel of that fear doesn't seem the same as the fear of male homosexuality.

Now with the response to gay men, I have seen a totally different pattern. It's taken seriously all right, and it's viewed as real, no matter what those pseudo-Christian ministers spout about choosing and lifestyles. Stereotypes of gay men are made foolish, foppish, and utterly unmasculine, the more extremely so the better the "joke" and general comfort level seem to be. There is clearly a very strong, deep-seated fear there that these stereotypes and jokes are meant to soothe. To me it seems that many hetero men are ignorant of the fact homosexuality is inborn and are afraid they might be somehow suddenly wake up gay one day themselves, a possibility that terrifies them. Somehow it's tied up with their sense of their own masculinity being threatened. Also, they may not know how to relate to gay men, who they fear might regard them as sex objects--more ignorance here. What do you talk about? Clearly, speculating on whether the cute redhead in the corner office puts out isn't going to be a prime topic for light conversation.

It's such an important question: WHY do so many hetero men in this country feel enough of these these fears to be susceptible to the demagogues? Is it because they are aware of how women are treated as sex objects and don't want that to happen to them? Or are they just that insecure about their own masculinity for some mysterious reason? I don't know, but we need to understand this if we are going to address these fears with effective reframing campaigns. Until the fears are banished, the hate can always be whipped up again.

I hope this makes some sense to you, at least as a deliberately overstated description of what I have observed. Of course it doesn't apply to ALL people, but in my experience the patterns are commonly seen.

[Ashamed_American]

25. fresnobill,

you are as brave as we should all strive to be. I can't imagine your situation in that area. You always have a home to come to here on DU, and a friendly face who shares your views way over here in North Carolina. Never stop fighting. Good luck to you.


www.BlackEyedSundays.com

[calimary]

38. Welcome to DU!! How do you cope in the city of the Free Republic?

YIKES!

I hope you can find solace in havens like this one.

It just completely disgusts me to see what's gone on. The hypocrisy. These same people would be burning the White House down if this were happening during Clinton's tenure. And WHERE is the eminent Dr. James Holier-than-Thou Dobson and his "Focus on the Pharisees?"

Gay-bashing is NOT a "family value." Neither is hypocrisy and "situational ethics," the label with which they tarred and feathered Clinton.

For full disclosure's sake, I'm 51, white, Catholic, married mother of two, retired journalist, and I worked with - and one of my closest pals (and most long-running of friendships with people who were once colleagues) is gay. I just heard from him a few days ago, and he made me VERY happy. He referred to his longtime partner as his "husband." My friendship with this man goes back more than 25 years. In that long span of time, I've known him to struggle with relationship problems and loneliness and heartbreaks and heart-aches again and again. But he finally met someone with whom he's been able to build a partnership and a sustaining, loving life commitment - and evidently, it "took." His calling his partner "husband" now makes me think that perhaps they either did something to formalize their relationship, or they're just taking the common-law route. Either way, I cannot begin to describe how much satisfaction that brings me!!! I hope you find such sustenance. I know it's made my friend happier, overall, than I've seen him in a long time.

And yes, keep up the faith, and keep fighting the fight. We will, too. Because THIS is for shit. And if any of these vile Pharisees and judgmental sanctimonious butt-heads wound up on the receiving end of such persecution, hostility, and character assassination, they'd be screaming from coast-to-coast like stuck pigs.

[fresnobill314]

46. How do I cope?

Well, for one thing, I was born and raised in Brooklyn, NY in a family of extremely sarcastic vinegar-mouthed bastards, so the real question is "How does Fresno cope with me?"

Yes, there are some lonesome moments, such as reading the election results in the city and discovering that you are only a handful of Kerry voter in a red city in a blue state.


However, most of the time the locals never see me coming, and are in such a state of confusion they hardly ever notice when I leave.


There are a handful of us progressive liberal types, and we all know the secret handshake. It's sort of like being in the French Resistance during the war.

Finally, I have always loved being the one stirring up the shit, and it's just way too easy to do it here.

In the words of my hero, Bugs Bunny, "Ain't I a stinker?"

[ElectroPrincess]

28. "Vengeance is mine"?!? Since when have the fundies shown humbleness

not to mention restraint? They LOVE, oh hell, They LIVE to be a part of the preaching and vengeance movement. Isn't that one of the perks for being a foaming at the mouth religious right winger?

[elare]

9. Voice of the White House

I feel exactly the same way about those postings! Most of the time I think the guy is nuts, but I anxiously await those twice-weekly postings to see what he says.

[annabanana]

12. I've started to want the WH to prove they're wrong..

Karl is such an odd duck

[Nothing Without Hope]

11. kick! n/t

[alfredo]

13. Did any of you notice when JG was asking his question, right

behind him was an Asian woman behind him making funny faces. She seems amused. Did she know he was a fraud? Did she know and was letting the cameras know she knew.

Or was she just making funny faces?

[Catherine Vincent]

14. Don't forget Matt Drudge.

[Nothing Without Hope]

15. Good point. I checked his site now and NOTHING on Gannongate

for Tues or Wed -- didn't check earlier. Lots on Michael Jackson and Prince Charles and the Pope talking about gay evil stuff and lots of other miscellaneous garbage. NOT ONE WORD about Gannongate. Not even an attempted defense as has been organized at the Free Republic site.

Peculiar enough to make one wonder just what is going on here.

[fresnobill314]

17. There may be something even more insideous.

Perhaps, the silence is the calm before the storm. Someone in the WH may be planning a gay purge; something similar to "The Night of the Long Knives." History may in fact be repeating itself.

[troubleinwinter]

43. I wish the closeted Repubs would all hold a press conference

together, and shout, "We're here and we're queer! Get used to it!", and be done with all this bigoted hypocritical shit.

[earth mom]

18. Their "silence" is a well orchestrated plan to give the story

no credence and thus to them, no credibility. No doubt they spread the word to not discuss this at all. What a F-IN Crock of Hypocrisy that Stinks to High Heaven! These people take the cake! The Clintons too-I haven't trusted them for a while now, and this just shows that they have gone to the other side without a doubt. Gawd! These people make me absolutely positively sick!!!
:puke: :puke: :puke:

[cthrumatrix]

24. their silence "speaks volumes" .... they must be scared shitless that any

day something could break and expose the fraud in the WH and this admin.

[ElectroPrincess]

29. And if our so called democratic representatives do NOT find their spine

They just might pull it off, i.e., bury the entire scandal.

[sepia_steel]

21. Careful :)

[Disturbed]

23. Of course none of the people mentioned will speak out.

They have their agendas and the Bush Junta is helping them with those.

Most Dems won't speak out either because they don't want to be seen as enemies of the Bush Junta. Most of the Dems are friendly with Rethugs. They are in the elite club. Sort of like Defense Attorney & Prosecution Attorney. In public they are adveseries but they hang out in similar bars and clubs.

Now we have the Whore Media and the same thing applies.

[rainbow4321]

22. Neocon's WND suggesting "he knew something about" shrub's people

Found on a blogsite and then went to the article itself...now it may all be because WND has it's nose out of place cuz THEY were denied a pass, but it still is kinda fun watching them use the "he knew something" angle.

The blog entry:

http://americablog.blogspot.com/2005/02/worldnetdaily-savages-gannonguckert.html

Jesus. One of the best, BEST, stories ever about GannonGuckertGate and what it means, and why it matters, comes from one of the most - MOST - conservative pro-Bush news sources on the Internet. This guy spells out exactly why this is a story. Exactly why this is so outrageous. And note, his column doesn't even criticize us, the liberal bloggers. It is pure and simple an article about how outrageous Gannon's and Talon's AND THE WHITE HOUSE'S actions were in this entire affair.

These guys are one of the top right-wing news sources. Now, for them to savage GannonGuckert and Talon News/GOPUSA is downright wild. It suggest to me that either WorldNetDaily actually has some scruples, and/or that they are scared shitless about the potential damage this scandal is causing and/or will cause the administration.

The article:

http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=42974


Once the organizers of GOP USA realized its very name betrayed its agenda, they hastily retooled a second sister outfit called Talon News. Guckert then apparently was able to continue seamlessly to get his daily White House press passes representing Talon News, despite using the phony name and despite the fact that he was leading a double life as a would-be purveyor of homosexual pornography and $1,200-per-weekend stud services on the Internet through now defunct websites such as Hotmilitarystuds.com, Militaryescorts.com and Meetlocalmen.com.

Maybe the reason the White House didn't mind looking the other way when it came to Gannon-Guckert was the fact that he was only too eager to lob softball questions at press conferences.

Who knows why this symbiotic relationship succeeded for as long as it did? Perhaps Gannon-Guckert knew something about people in the Bush administration. Or, perhaps some inside the Bush administration knew the truth about Gannon-Guckert. We may never know the full truth.

What the pretenders did backfired. They have hurt their own ideological cause more than they know. They have tarnished the image of the administration they championed. They have undermined the cause of the responsible New Media and the free press in America.You might remember the two-year fight WorldNetDaily waged to become credentialed by the Senate Press Gallery. Meanwhile, an activist organization – pretending to be a journalistic one and ensnared in personal scandal – pranced into the White House and secured access to the president of the United States.

[cthrumatrix]

26. "cafeteria catholics"....they pick and choose when moral are needed

[madhat]

27. No Drudge!

Still! It's unbelievable.

[hnsez]

30. log cabin republicans have been quiet too :)

[EVDebs]

31. It begs the question, "who else is on the payroll ?" MSM is not

having its finest hour. Operation Mockingbird is left to spin out of control and possible ties to domestic military PsyOps during 'wartime' is always a possiblity. DoD needs every dollar it can squeeze out of the domestic side right now.

[Nothing Without Hope]

32. Congratulations, fresnobill! Your first thread is on the Greatest Page

Lots of people will see it now, as you can see from the comments flowing in. To have this happen with the very first thread you post is quite an accomplishment and says that you have important ideas that people here will respond to.

Recommended for Greatest Page.

Again, congratulations and welcome to DU!
:toast:

[fresnobill314]

34. Thanks! And, I just realized there's one more group....

...that has remained silent.

5.) THE RACIST COMMUNITY There has been no complaint from Aryan groups, the Klan, the church of thee creator, even Fred Phelps. These groups hate homosexuals as much as they hate people of color. Not one hateful diatribe from any of those boobs.


This is the most interesting of all the Silent Ones.

[Nothing Without Hope]

35. you're right, that is striking and I hadn't thought of it

In a sense, gay-hating is a sort of invisible racism; there is a LOT of common territory and common psychosis. So it IS odd that they're not screaming for a gay purge. Something is definitely going on here behind the scenes.

It really is useful to look at Gannongate in this way - not just who is saying what but who would be expected to be screaming and is silent. It's very revealing of SOMETHING -- but what? We need to find out.

By the way, I sort of expect "Gannon" to announce either that he was never gay and only did what he did because he was formerly in the coils of Satan or else that newfound faith has washed him "clean" of gayness and now he's suddenly a hetero. This sort of "that was then, now I'm saved so ignore it" approach has worked amazingly well for the blivet**.

ed:sp

[japple]

39. If Wayne Madsen is correct...

the ones who are silent are scared shitless they'll be ratted out. See Madsen's latest article at Online Journal. I hesitated to post a link here, thinking that maybe onlinejournal.com is one of those links we're not supposed to use (like capitol hill blues).

[yellowcanine]

40. I believe it was teletubby Jerry Fatwell who "outed" Tinky Winky.

I know it is difficult to keep the gluttonous Jesus wingnuts straight but you have got to try harder to keep up.

[yellowcanine]

41. I disagree with you about the Clintons. It is not their job to comment on

Gannon/Guckert. They are not reporters and they are not defenders of the right wing status quo. Besides, Hilary is busy representing the citizens of New York in the Senate and Bill is busy being exPresident. This is beneath them both.

[paineinthearse]

44. Washington Times

Write to Jennifer Harper.

She wrote a piece slamming Rep. Maurice Hinchey (D-NY22), to which in reply I wrote my views. Here's her reply:

Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2005 13:04:32 -0500
Subject: Re: I expected as much from the Unification Times
From: "Jennifer Harper" <[e-mail]>
To: (me)

Thanks for reading even if we do annoy you.

========

priceless

[Nothing Without Hope]

49. Kick! n/t

[jen4clark]

50. Another "Gannon"? APRIL RYAN-JAMES

I can't start threads, but a very curious, intelligent friend of mine posted this on a message board I frequent. So many amazing sleuths here, I thought it would be a good place to post it. From ms in la:

Been doing a little research-- but have to go to work now
and can't complete it. There is an African American so-called
"journalist" also in on WH PRESS briefings. FOund in the
Gannon Freeper posts that he likes her - that W likes her-
(That was enough to rouse my suspicions!) Then this post:
=========================

To: ejdrapes

April is a 30+ year old black female reporter who President Bush
seems to like, I'm not sure who she works for, but she is not like
the others, she's respectful in her tone and questions

April reports for Urban America Radio. W does indeed like her, as do
I. However, many of her questions at the White House press breifings
begin with "Jesse Jackson says..."

She's one of THEM, make no mistake about it.

12 posted on 04/16/2004 7:41:36 PM PDT by Jeff Gannon
========================
"She's one of THEM--" caught my interest. Guess what?
She seems to have NO BIO , no background. Impossible to
find anything on her. May be another fake name. I did find her
invited to a White House dinner with Cheney, W, Condi, all the
usual admin. suspects, some heads of state and....Armstrong Williams
and April Ryan (the ONLY "journalists" I saw on the list)
She is supposedly working for American Urban Radio - which appears
to be owned by a Mellon (as in Mellon Scaife as in right wing
billionaire hate fest on Clinton ) Here's a warm exchange with
bush at a WH Press conference upon her return from maternity leave.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

April Ryan James of American Urban Radio Network

The WP's Lloyd Grove notes that President Bush was apparently hoping
for a very special present from White House correspondent April Ryan,
who just returned from maternity leave. "What's the name of the
baby?" Bush asked Ryan yesterday, during a photo-op with Czech
President Vaclav Havel. "Ryan Tyler James," she answered. "There's
no 'W.' Sorry."
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Now that's cute. She gave him lots of Gannon-ish questions before
the war in Iraq, including asking him about his faith and should
we the American people pray now as he recommended at 9/11?

I SMELL ANOTHER PAID FAKE JOURNALIST GUYS!!!
Can someone get on this while I go earn a living to pay my
outrageously exhorbitant health insurance premiums?!

Goes by April Ryan and married name April Ryan James-- but I
feel it's a fake name.

ms in la (sleuthing)

[jen4clark]

51. I'm not such a great sleuth but

here's a link to WaPo WH Correspondents List - everybody seems to have a bio or latest story except her.

http://tinyurl.com/2k8kl

[Laurab]

52. Here are some more silent ones:

friends, enemies, school-mates, former employers, relatives - ANYONE who he has interacted with in his 47??? years of life. I mean come on - he's got to have some kind of history not related to gay prostitute web sites (I can understand why they might not want to say anything).

1 possiblity is they have come forward, tried to sell their story, and no one would take it due to the fact they're all * pals - well, actually that's the only thing I can come up with. Where is his life history? This is just too strange.

[go west young man]

55. Maybe they dont want allt he priests that went up on molestation

charges in the past few years spending church dollars on Gannons web services. The best church is the church of the mind. Where ones actions speak louder than the amount of time one spends praying and worshiping.