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adigal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-05 02:31 PM
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Russian reporter asked Bush how US is a democracy
since our Secret Services monitor American citizens. Nice that they know what we don't because our press doesn't tell us.

The reporter said that Bush and Putin are in agreement, because neither wants a democracy:

QUESTION (THROUGH TRANSLATOR): First of all, I wanted to ask another question, but we have an interesting conversation now, therefore I'm going to ask about the following.

It seems to me that you have nothing to disagree about. The regimes in place in Russia and the U.S. cannot be considered fully democratic, especially when compared to some other countries of Europe, for example; for example, the Netherlands.

It seems to me that, as far as Russia is concerned, everything is clear more or less. But as far as the U.S. is concerned, we could probably talk at length.

I'm referring to the great powers that have been assumed by the security services due to which the private lives of citizens are now being monitored by the state.

This could be explained away by the consequences of September 11th, but this has nothing to do with democratic values.

How could you comment on this?

I suggest that you can probably agree, that you can probably shake hands and continue to be friends in future.

END of Reporter's Question

BUSH: I live in a transparent country. I live in a country where decisions made by government are wide open and people are able to call people to me to account, which many out here do on a regular basis.

Our laws and the reasons why we have laws on the books are perfectly explained to people. Every decision we have made is within the Constitution of the United States. We have a constitution that we uphold.

And if there's a question as to whether or not a law meets that constitution, we have an independent court system through which that law is reviewed.

So I'm perfectly comfortable in telling you, our country is one that safeguards human rights and human dignity, and we resolve our disputes in a peaceful way.

My comment: the disconnect between what Bush says and what Bush does is stunning.

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punpirate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-05 02:35 PM
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1. Maybe the first follow-up should have been...
... "if that's true, what about the Cheney energy task force papers?"
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truthisfreedom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-05 02:36 PM
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2. he didn't say whose human rights and human dignity our country safeguards
though. his cronies.
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-05 02:37 PM
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3. "... and people are able to call people to me to account..." FOUL!
I'm crying FOUL on that one! If we are herded off to 'free speech zones' out of sight and earshot, how the hell can we call him to account?

Lying for all the world yet again. I hope somebody like KO plays that over and over while showing vidoes of what happens to anyone who tries to call bush* to account!

Vetted, screened, programed audiences are not THE PEOPLE.

How much $$ for security to keep THE PEOPLE from calling The Liar in Cheif to account?
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DU9598 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-05 02:40 PM
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4. "We have a constitution to uphold"
Edited on Thu Feb-24-05 02:40 PM by DU9598
Or amend to exclude people his base finds objectionable.
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Generator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-05 02:43 PM
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7. LOL... and
scare the shit out of as many 'merickns as possible with phony terror alerts to get them to understand giving up their rights is for their own good.

Don't forget, 9/11 changed everything. (thank you Frank Lutz-I think it's always fair to quote the propaganda mastermind when possible)
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Democrats_win Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-05 02:42 PM
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6. "to call people to me to account" = Being summoned to Ceasar
There's that dictator showing through again.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-05 02:50 PM
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12. Ugh
Liar liar liar. Don't forget his loyalty oathed rallies and his whole SS nonsense tour. :eyes: :grr:
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Sequoia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-05 02:41 PM
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5. That's not an answer monkey boy
just a smoke screen with happy words.
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fob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-05 02:43 PM
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8. That reporter is the ANTI-jimjeff gannon! Can we trade timmy russert,
brit hume, and a blowhard-to-be-named-later for this guy?
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adigal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-05 07:03 PM
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16. Was he not awesome???
Too bad very few of our MSM reporters have the balls of this lone reporter. Our phonies should take a lesson from that man.
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Dr.Phool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-05 02:44 PM
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9. Unfuckingbelievable!!
But half the sheeple in this free society would agree with him.
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Democrats_win Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-05 02:44 PM
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10. "independent court system?" like the goons who stole or vote?
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Democrats_win Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-05 02:46 PM
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11. "safeguards human rights" --Drinking game: one drink per lie
This news confernece would have been great for that old Bob Newhart drinking game where everyone takes a drink when someone on the show says "hi Bob."
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kcwayne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-05 02:52 PM
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13. "we resolve our disputes in a peaceful way"
Oh, so those were peace bombs we have been dropping on Iraq and Afghanistan, and the 500,000 people we have killed died because they were poor debaters. Its much clearer now.
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dave29 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-05 02:59 PM
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14. he didn't answer the question
at all
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fooj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-05 03:31 PM
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15. God forbid he say that HE has been held accountable...
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-05 07:47 PM
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17. If any country does not comply with the Bush Junta..
the debate is done with missles raining down on the populace and then Occupation.

The Bush Junta is spreading Freedom;the Freedom to steal the resources of any country that can be defeated by the Freedom spreading Military.
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CatholicEdHead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-05 08:19 PM
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18. Everything he mentioned
was pretty much oppoosite of what he said.

When I saw that on the news and heard the clip on All Things Considered I could not believe how aburd that was.
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demwing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-05 08:28 PM
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19. To paraphrase Jon Stewart: "...Mr President?"
Edited on Thu Feb-24-05 08:28 PM by demwing
Your pants are on fire, sir.
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independentchristian Donating Member (393 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-05 08:32 PM
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20. Wow
I'm surprised that Bush could take a question like that and even be able to give the BS answer that he did.

He must have been thinking about that one for a while, lol.
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